Presented at PUUF on Memoral Day 2004
as part of a service called "Remebering War, Hoping for Peace"
I want to talk about guilt:
Survivor guilt, guilt for killing, guilt for asking for killing, guilt that
someone from our country killed someone...
But also guilt and justice: Who is Guilty? And why?
In the Gulf War, I blamed the killing on my
country: How could my government, my people, send me over here and order
me to do this?
Now that I'm back here, I'm a part of that country. The finger of guilt has
a way of traveling in large circles and returning to point back at the source.
Am I guilty?
In Mark Twain's War Prayer, he points out
that with each persons prayer there is also the unspoken prayer. The unthinking
prayer. "If you pray for the blessing of rain upon your crop which needs
it, by that act you are possibly praying for a curse upon some neighbor's
crop which may not need rain and can be injured by it. " (copies outside,
please read it)
Is Bush guilty? Is the "Military / Industrial" complex to blame? Am I at
fault. Is there anything I could do?
People tell me I should vote. But that is a trap. Voting is a release from
liability. "Don't blame me, I voted for...." It allows "we the people" to
have plausible denyability. "Had I known that he would... I never would have
voted for him..."
It doesn't matter who gets elected. In the end, all goverments must bow to
the will of the people. GW bow down to me? Ahhhnold on his knees?
Yeah. They need the profits from what we buy. They need us. What does GW
or Ahhnold want from me?
Dependance on, and support for, our "economy." (I want to be self
They want me to get up early each morning. (Even on days when I don't feel
Eat the breakfast I purchased from the supermarket (Not eggs and fruit from
my own back yard)
Food that was transported many miles from factory farms, chicken mills,
canabalistic cows. (I'd rather not eat franken foods, thank you)
For them, I must brave the morning commute. (I wish I could stay at home
and work in the garden)
Ahhhnold wants me to drive an H2. GW just wants to make sure I drive something
that burns gas. (I'd love to try out bio-diesel from discarded resturant
They want me to feel like I need to earn money so I can keep up with the
Jones's (They they rent the house next door and just bought two new cars)
My wife should work too, because the kids would be bussed to school for half
the day anyway. (We homeschool but I miss them)
I should eat a hearty "supersized" lunch at McDonalds. (My colesteral is
272, I weigh 190 pounds, I take zantac for acid reflux and zoloft for mood
Health insurance is a must so that if I get cancer, modern medicen can spend
millions to extend the quantity, if not the quality of my productive life.
(Instead of dying a quiet death with my family)
Home owners insurance is required by my mortgage lender. My trampoline is
a "attractive nucence" and even if a kid breaks down our fence to get to
it, any injuries are our fault. (I think my kids should be responsible for
thier own actions)
What choice do I have? Well, after growing up in Oregon amid the hippies
and the survivalists; laughing at their paranoia, devoting my life to industry,
automation and technology, I find that I am happiest when I am
Hey man! If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
Tune in, turn on, drop out. Just because I'm paranoid, it doesn't mean they're
not out to get me.
The path to freedom is in not participating. And it can be done. There is
a family in Panadina who grow most all their own food on a suburban 1/5 acre
lot. Their car runs biodesiel. go see
Ok, let me make a less radical suggestion. If you are not ready to drop out
all the way, at least stop buying bananas.
Bananas? Why bananas? Bananas taste great, are good for you, and are available
at low prices in every store in the USA
Yeah, but: Bananas don't grow well here. They're grown in... well, banana
They're shipped thousands of miles in ships of foriegn registry with NO emmision
So low cost bananas depend on low cost fuel oil. You want nice bananas? You
have to burn fuels. God forbid we should use nuke powered freighters.
<HICK ACCENT>You want low cost oil? You have to dominate those "A-rabs"
who "stole" our oil and hid it under their desert. And thems are 'onry little
cusses. They get all sort of ideas in thier little heads, 'bout making us
pay more. Sometimes, you have to set an example and kill some 'um
If we take the time to think about the unspoken part of each of our prayers,
and act accordingly, we could break this machine... this system that feeds
on death. "Who can destroy a thing, owns that thing."
Yes, our president is guilty. Our military is guilty. Our industry is guilty.
We are guilty. I am guilty. Hey, I like bananas.
"It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was
no sense in what he said. "
9/11 is NOT a significant loss compared to other things: How many of you
lost someone in 9/11 vs How many of you lost someone
in a gasoline powerd automobile?
50 to 60 THOUSAND people die on the freeways each year
the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the leaders of a country
who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag people
along, whether it is democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament,
or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be
brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is
tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of
patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every
-- Hermann Goering, Hitlers Reich-Marshal at Nuremburg after WWII. (This
is true: check snopes:
"If you think you are too small to make a difference, try sleeping with a
mosquito." -- the Dalai Lama
Does the USA enforce OPEC prices?
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