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Vitaliy wrote:
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That's a fair assessment of what I feel, and the way I read Gerhard and
Olin's replies too. The last sentence is too broad though... there are
rules, good rules, but like most rules, there are times to break them
too. So, I guess it would be more accurate to say "there are guidelines,
but all guidelines have an appropriate context".

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> In addition, the statements you guys made reveal that you don't really know
> what Agile is. If you don't know what it is, how can you make judgements
> about its effectiveness?
>  
I freely admit to not knowing much about Agile at all. Further, all I
have really said is that the way we adapt/do things at work is fairly
flexible, and we do all sorts of different things, some 'Agile' in
nature, and some not. Also, I never suggested that Agile is not
effective, only that it is not effective for what we/I do at work.

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> The reason I started this thread was to try to clear up the confusion about
> what Agile is not. New concepts, especially ones that have a catchy name
> that begins with a capital letter, usually meet with resistance -- it is to
> be expected.
>  
I ave no idea why you started this particular thread, but I recall you
asking me how things happen at my work. I obliged and gave some insight
on how things happen. I expected you to use that information for
something, but I am not comfortable with you then trying to convince me
that what we do is wrong. I feel somewhat 'used' if you only asked me
how things work just so that you can tell me I am wrong. Go find someone
else to convert ;-) But, suggesting that what I am doing is somehow
inadequate, and then implying that I am somewhat 'slow' or 'entrenched'
because I don't want to change is insulting too. Where change has
realistic and significant benefits I am very swift to change course.
> If what you have works for you, great -- there's no reason to change if you
> are happy where you are. If, on the other hand, you are dissatisfied with
> the status quo (like I was three years ago), I would encourage you to
> explore Agile.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Vitaliy
>
>  
You know, Vitaliy, there are a lot of things happening in life. The
industry I work in is struggling (finance and software both), and people
are getting laid off all over the place. I am married, have a 3yr old
and a 5yr old. They are lots of fun, and take a lot of my time. I do
electronics, woodworking, and photography as a hobby, and also do a
bunch of other things. At work I am exploring all sorts of new areas in
both finance (credit risk), and technology (linux blade clusters, new
database systems, etc.). I have a system that gets things done as well
as prioritizes what needs to happen and when. My system  works for me,
and keeps me sane. There are enough stress points in my life that
introducing another one just to experience change seems daft.

I have no intention of ignoring my other demands and passions just so
that I can indulge your encouragement to try new things. Perhaps I am
set in my ways in some ways, but I am happy with things that work. Just
because you may not work the same way, and what works for me may not
work for you, does not make your systems any better (or worse).

For the record, I live in Canada. It is great, and is good for everyone.
If where you are works for you -- there's no reason to change if you are
happy where you are. If, on the other hand, you are dissatisfied with
the status quo (like I was before I came to Canada), I would encourage
you to emigrate. New places, especially ones that have a catchy name
that begins with a capital letter, usually meet with resistance -- it is
to be expected.

See, it just sounds belittling ....

Best regards

Rolf


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