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Thread: Canon HF100 camcorder (was: [EE] SDHC Cards, was Re:Digital Sound)
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I hang out on the hv20.com forum site where many of the guys are professionals.  Because of their dissatisfaction with AVCHD (first gen anyway), I decided to go with the HV30 instead of the HF100.  Of course it is a fantastic little camcorder, the number 1 rated HD consumer camcorder just barely beating out Sony.  My coworker got the HF100 recently and now I'm not so sure I made the right choice.  I wanted the best quality I could get so I decided to go with tape one more time.  After seeing the quality and convenience of his HF100, I think it may have been worth a slightly lower video quality.  Oh well, what's done is done.
FJ> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:34:21 -0400> From: KILLspamstienmanEraseMEspamspamgmail.com> To: piclistspammit.edu> Subject: Re: [TECH] Canon HF100 camcorder (was: [EE] SDHC Cards, was Re: Digital Sound)> > Aaugh, I'm being mobbed by piclisters! ;-D> > I delayed as I haven't had time to fiddle with the actual files> produced yet. The software included is, for all intents and purposes,> useless (on the video end - the pictures are managed by the same> software Canon uses with their SLRs, which is very good for what I> need). I'm going to be looking at a few packages over the next week> or two, but AVCHD is still a new format for HD video. I complicate> matters further by using a Windows Vista 64 system as my main machine> - Sony's video editing software, for example, installs but then> crashes on startup. I still have 3-4 more AVCHD editing packages to> try out, and expect I'll find something suitable this week.> > For now I'm using my XP laptop to transfer the video to an external> HD. The laptop is n!
ot a speed demon, though, so I'm no going to> attempt to edit video on it. The included software doesn't download> on my Vista 64 system - it loads, and downloads smaller videos (50MB> or less) but fails on larger videos. I imagine it's a driver issue> Canon will eventually clear up, but as I'm saving them to an external> drive anyway it doesn't matter which computer I use, so for now I'm> using an XP system to take the video from the camera. The file format> on the SD cards is not what you get on the PC, though, so at the> moment I do have to transfer from the camera rather than an SD reader.> It looks like a bunch of transport streams and a bunch of files with> meta information, and the included software probably grabs the> necesary files and stitches them together during the transfer.> > The latest nightly build of VLC (VideoLanClient) plays the raw M2TS> files just fine, and I expect I can use it to transcode (and I've seen> messages online saying ffmpeg works with AVCH!
D M2TS files now) so I> don't expect it to be a roadblock, but I do wi
sh the included software> had more features, especially regarding transcoding the video to a> standard mpeg4 AVI.> > I'm told that for 32 bit XP and Vista users, there are several good> editing programs available that work out of the box - I'm running a> non-standard setup.> > As far as the camcorder itself -> - Battery life is as good/poor as described (about an hour on highest> quality, 90 minutes on lower quality). I purchased a second regular> battery and an external charger. I might get the extended battery> later, or wait for a quality generic to become available.> - Video quality from the camcorder to an HD monitor is VERY good> using component out.> - Audio quality is better than I expected - certainly good enough for> most usage. Not noisy, picks up quiet sounds easily and clearly> (small children speaking quietly). I'm pleased with it. Haven't> tested for stereo seperation.> - Low light performance is good - recorded a stage play from a few> rows back, colors, etc !
were good. Could detect a slight graininess of> the video. Pointing away from the stage into the darkened audience> and you lose most color while the 'grain' becomes very noticable, but> everything is discernable.> - I do wish it was wider on the wide angle end - I found myself> backing up in small rooms to get the view I wanted. There's a wide> angle lens available, but I don't want the wider view so badly that> I'm willing to spend $100+ on it.> - Contrary to published reports I had no problems slipping the> camcorder into my shirt pockets and pants pockets. It fit very nicely> and I had no worries about it falling out - it goes completely inside.> I'm probably going to buy a plain glass filter for it so I don't have> to worry about dust or scratches on the lens from having it hit other> items in my pockets - the front lens cover is held closed by springs,> and opens easily if touched from the front.> - The still camera images are good - I'm used to the Canon XTi DSLR> wh!
ich is noticably better, but it was good enough that I didn't carry> t
he slr around with me on a recent vacation and instead used the> camcorder - better than the point and shoot's I've used in the past.> Now that I think about it, I have a sample:> http://flickr.com/photos/adavis/2734495254/ Exif:> http://flickr.com/photos/adavis/2734495254/meta/> - I'm still very surprised at the macro capabilities. Really very> nice. Combined with the zoom I wish I had the camcorder with me> rather than the SLR on a recent visit to a buterfly house. I couldn't> get a great picture of a flying blue morpho, but I suspect a still HD> video frame would have been better than what I did capture.> > So, the only issue I have right now is that I don't have a good video> software workflow. Having not owned a camcorder before, and having> heard from friends that most camcorders don't come with good software> I wasn't expecting to have this set up quickly anyway, but I do wish> the software had enough functionality to convert to something that> Vimeo or Youtube can ea!
t.> > I'm planning on taping the next Go Tech meeting (Ann Arbor local> maker/electronics/computers/CNC/robots/etc enthusiast group) next> Tuesday, so I expect a few days after that I'll have some video> online, and I'll see about putting some of the raw stuff up so you can> see what it produces. Hopefully I'll have a workflow setup by then> that requires almost no effort to go from camera to HD Vimeo online.> > Let me know if you have any questions or want me to try something with it...> > -Adam> > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Vitaliy <RemoveMEspamKILLspamspammaksimov.org> wrote:> > Carlos Marcano wrote:> >> So, Adam, how has this nice looking camera been doing?> >> > Yeah, you promised to tell us more! :)> > -
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