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Ok, I'm calm now...

...Is every one clear that this is not a money maker for me???

I am getting a bit tired of doing all the updating. I envisioned that once I
had built the site to a "critical mass" and attracted enough browsers, they
would start using the little "add a comment" form to update it directly. But
no, I still do almost all of it.

I'd like to concentrate on just adding new scripting features like the
archive, search engine, keyword highlighting, and "search for more
information on this subject" at the bottom of each page based on  keywords
from the page title, that I have already done.

Ideas I'd like to work on now are
- Automatic linking of search results to the source page where the search
keywords were extracted from the title based on "did this answer your
question" links,

- A database of consultants related to each area with a "would you like to
be referred to an expert in this area" if the search results or browsing is
not helpful. The consultants pick what pages they want referrals from and
maintain their own contact information.

- An "email me changes to this page" link Totally automatic. If the page is
edited, it gets mailed to a list of people who are interested.

- A monthly newsletter subscription option with a summary of new content on
the site. The update script just logs all the updates into a "new" file and
that is emailed to subscribers on a regular basis.

- A parametric PIC, SX, AVR part selection engine with the ability for any
member to update the chip information to include "gotchas", "workarounds",
etc... THAT one really needs someone else to volunteer to load it and keep
the data up to date.

- Shopping cart service with check draft processing (credit cards by paypal
or ccnow) for people who want to sell or auction a few related items. I
already have a check script working at
http://www.massmind.org/cgi-bin/checkdraft.asp
and a tax and shipping quote calculator at
http://magicland.massmind.org/cgi-bin/taxship.asp?taxableamount=10.00

- Stocking and shipping services for manufacturers of related devices from
outside the US. Quickly shipping products into the US on a case by case
bases is very expensive for people who are overseas. I would need to get my
time paid for on that one, but I've been asked by several people to do it,
some I'm trying to figure out how it would make sense. I think the only way
to get around the FCC requirements is to limit the service to Kits.
According to
http://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff2001.asp the closest customs code is
85425000.-- Electronic microassemblies and there is no duty on imports of
that type from countries that we trade with. Anyone who knows anything about
this stuff?

- A dictionary that excludes common words but automatically provides links
to foldocs or some other page on the piclist.com site for technical terms
and phrases.

But I don't have any time to do all that when I'm working my butt off just
to keep up with posting the good code, suggestions, answers and whatnot from
the list onto the site.

Is anyone willing to help?

James Newton, PICList Admin #3
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1-619-652-0593 phone
http://www.piclist.com


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Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 13:40
Subject: [OT]: #3's Books (was Allocation site?)


Dan Michaels said:
 Am I wrong, or are you not also the guy getting rich off of it?
 [you will recall when I asked what your advertising rates were
 recently - ie, last week - you said you were going to raise
 them, as PICList was getting so popular - care to publish the
 books?? - ;)].

Now that hurts...

A) I HAVE NOT GOTTEN PAID ONE DAMN DIME FOR SETTING UP THAT SITE. Well,
actually Amazon.com sent me a $25 check once for book referral payment, some
of which may have been off piclist.com.

B) IT COSTS $$$ PER MONTH TO PAY MY ISP FOR SERVER CO-LOCATION SO I CAN RUN
ASP SCRIPTS AND USE MY OWN BOXS AND I PAY THAT OUT OF POCKET. I like ASP,
and made my living off it for a while. I wanted to learn NT IIS admin and so
I did the hosting my self. Also so you wouldn't have to look at popup
advertisements...

C) NO I DO NOT ACCEPT PAID ADVERTIZING FOR THE PICLIST.COM SITE. We were
discussing massmind.org which does contain some of the same content, but to
date, I have not sold any advertising on any of my sites. Has anyone ever
seen any ads on these sites?

D) I SET UP A PAGE FOR PEOPLE TO DONATE MONEY TO PICLIST MEMBERS WHO HAVE
MADE OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE LIST (yes, there is a link for me) AND
EVEN CALLED FOR PEOPLE TO HELP WHEN A MEMBER NEEDED IT, AND NO ONE HAS
***EVER*** DONATED.
www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/support.htm
You want an advertisement? There it is. Make Jory, Wouter, Tony, Scott,
Dmitry, Nikolai, Jeff, Alan and Me rich. Yeah right...

Jory has donated a NT Server License and a 5 port 10baseT hub and another
gent (annon) sent me SQL Server and helped with the parts for the new server
box. The old box is now the SQL Server (for the archive). I setup my old
personal machine as a Linux box (that is not doing DNS the way I want it to)
that helps with the reminder emails.

The local Microchip FAE loaned me an old ICD *AFTER* he saw how much I
supported the ICD idea on the list vs Emulators. I've used it twice to play
around and test ideas. He will get it back anytime he asks for it and you
KNOW I don't mind publishing dirt, bugs, and whatever about Microchip. I'm
an SX user and I publish their bugs too.

Ubicom (Scenix) just donated some nice demo boards for an SXList.com contest
and they have helped out here and there in the set up of that site / techref
section. I've been clear from the beginning that I support SX chips (I like
them.... more speed...) but as they are PIC clones and code from the SX can
be used in the PICs with a bit of conversion or macroing, I don't see a
problem. Anyway it is MY site and not really related to the PICList so I'll
do what the hell I want with it.

I would like to sell advertising on massmind.org and maybe sxlist.com or
even piclist.com if Jory and no-one else minded. It would help to offset the
cost, and if it did well enough, I would drop consulting and spend my entire
day improving the site. I love it. Really, I do. But I would be very nervous
about the relationship with the sponsor. I'd have to be absolutely sure that
there would be NO influence. I'm FRIED that anyone would think I was using
the PICList to get rich.

There is an amazing amount of excellent advice and code posted to the
PICList. Go back to 1995 or 6 in the archives (before I was an admin) and
look at how many flame wars, rude B.S. and unmarked off topics there were.
Tjaart is gone,  Wagner is gone... how may others? . John Payson is gone.
(Some F**K flamed him about a religious poem he posted in honor of his wife
after she DIED)
www.piclist.com/techref/postbot.asp?by=thread&id=%25RIP+Dawn+Elizabet
h+Payson%25
Keeping the people who really make the list tick on the list and feeling
good about it has been my number one job. We just don't have OT flames.
Scott is back. Andrew is back.

The problem with the list is that it is very hard to FIND the excellent
answers, code, etc.. that have been posted. I started by trying to collect
the best and most FAQ so that we didn't have to keep telling newbies about
not setting the code protect bit, et all and so that the GEMs would be
organized in one place. I have always credited authors with whatever code or
information I've placed on the sites and I always link to their sites if
they are in business. Ask them how many referrals they get from piclist.com?
I've spend butt loads of time organizing and improving the site and NIK and
now one or two other people are the only ones who have actually helped with
it.

Having said that, I was going to send a post to ALL: today saying that the
Archive is now loaded all the way back to December of 1993 which is the
first PICList post ever, as far as I know. It also does keyword highlighting
on the results. Couple of bug fixes. Still damn quick.

Oh well.

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James Newton (PICList Admin #3)
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