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1999\06\03@121609 by enesys - Ing. en Sistemas

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I can see x-10 is a propietary protocol for comunication using power
lines.Yhere is another option?

1999\06\03@124458 by n/a

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Genesys - Ing. en Sistemas wrote:
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> I can see x-10 is a propietary protocol for comunication using power
> lines.Yhere is another option?

485

Miguel

1999\06\03@125117 by David Knaack

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From: Genesys - Ing. en Sistemas <spam_OUTgenesysTakeThisOuTspamCIUDAD.COM.AR>
To: .....PICLISTKILLspamspam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <PICLISTspamKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Thursday, June 03, 1999 11:15 AM
Subject: x-10 and pic. Off-topic


>I can see x-10 is a propietary protocol for comunication using power
>lines.Yhere is another option?

Option for what, communication over power lines?

The original X10 patent expired in Dec. '97, X10
is now an open standard.

A few details:
X10 uses a 1ms 120kHz burst at the zero crossing point
of the 50/60Hz line voltage.  Basic message is 13 bits,
to messages are used to turn on or off a device.  Extended
packets can contain up to 20 bits, and contain custom
data for your devices.

DK

1999\06\03@130954 by Michael Shiloh

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I'd toyed with the idea of interfacing X10 to PICs. Anyone have any
schematics/code/ideas?

1999\06\03@135255 by Kevin Fisk

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CEBus can also use Powerline communication and is a EIA standard (ummm
709.1 I think). Never used it however, I have been thinking about doing
so (for a PIC project naturally). Anyone with experience out there.
Reply in private if you prefer (kinda OT).

Cheers,

Kevin
.....kfiskKILLspamspam.....wkpowerlink.com

WF AUTOMACAO - A ZNICA COM KITS DIVERSIFICADOS E NACIONAIS wrote:
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> Genesys - Ing. en Sistemas wrote:
> >
> > I can see x-10 is a propietary protocol for comunication using power
> > lines.Yhere is another option?
>
> 485
>
> Miguel

1999\06\03@140057 by David Knaack

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From: Michael Shiloh <EraseMEmichaelspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTMAULER.SRL.ORG>

>I'd toyed with the idea of interfacing X10 to PICs. Anyone have any
>schematics/code/ideas?

I'm sure hoping code is available.  This seems like such a natural
thing to do for a microcontroller project (given the prices of much
of the more versatile home automation stuff) that I hadn't really
considered the possibility that it hadn't been done yet.

A quick web search finds at least one page selling PIC X10 code
and power line interfaces:

http://users1.ee.net/web_surf/Mchip.htm

Also the PIC C compiler from CCS for the MicroChip PIC16 processors
includes software drivers for X10 (and a whole load of other stuff) for $99

http://ccsinfo.com/picc.html

So, apparently this is not an uncommon application.  Anybody know of
any free X10 code or power line interfaces?

DK

1999\06\03@140508 by Harrison Cooper

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I've got a whole slew of messages dating back to Feb of 95 on
PIC/X10/interfacing.  I'll try and put them all together into one cohesive
message....and forward to those who are interested or post to the list
(depending on interest)

1999\06\03@171459 by Stacy D. Coil

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Please count me in on the post.

Thanks,

--Stacy

Thanks for your message at 12:03 PM 6/3/99 -0600, Harrison Cooper. Your
message was:
>I've got a whole slew of messages dating back to Feb of 95 on
>PIC/X10/interfacing.  I'll try and put them all together into one cohesive
>message....and forward to those who are interested or post to the list
>(depending on interest)

1999\06\03@175857 by eplus1

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1999\06\03@180120 by Steve

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Me too...
-Steve Jones



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1999\06\03@180525 by Michael Shiloh

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Of course me too. Maybe this should go on a web page somewhere? There
seems to be enough interest and apparently comes up every so often.


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1999\06\03@181947 by R. L. Petty

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Please add me to the distribution.

Thanx
Richard

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1999\06\03@193952 by enesys - Ing. en Sistemas

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i have interest.

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De: pic microcontroller discussion list
[KILLspamPICLISTKILLspamspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU]En nombre de Harrison Cooper
Enviado el: jueves 3 de junio de 1999 15:04
Para: RemoveMEPICLISTTakeThisOuTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU
Asunto: Re: x-10 and pic. Off-topic


I've got a whole slew of messages dating back to Feb of 95 on
PIC/X10/interfacing.  I'll try and put them all together into one cohesive
message....and forward to those who are interested or post to the list
(depending on interest)

1999\06\03@195442 by HŽctor Golia
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Please count me in on the post.
Tank you

Hector
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From: Harrison Cooper <TakeThisOuThcooperEraseMEspamspam_OUTES.COM>
To: <RemoveMEPICLISTspamTakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: x-10 and pic. Off-topic


> I've got a whole slew of messages dating back to Feb of 95 on
> PIC/X10/interfacing.  I'll try and put them all together into one cohesive
> message....and forward to those who are interested or post to the list
> (depending on interest)
>

1999\06\04@003517 by enesys - Ing. en Sistemas

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485 over power lines?
are you SURE?

if  are you sure  then
 explain how please
else
 x-10 is still the answer.


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De: pic microcontroller discussion list
[PICLISTEraseMEspam.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU]En nombre de WF AUTOMACAO - A òNICA COM
KITS DIVERSIFICADOS E NACIONAIS
Enviado el: jueves 3 de junio de 1999 17:38
Para: EraseMEPICLISTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU
Asunto: Re: x-10 and pic. Off-topic


Genesys - Ing. en Sistemas wrote:
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> I can see x-10 is a propietary protocol for comunication using power
> lines.Yhere is another option?

485

Miguel

1999\06\04@015620 by Vic Lopez

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Me too!! Vic Lopez
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From: Stacy D. Coil <RemoveMEcoil.1EraseMEspamEraseMEOSU.EDU>
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Date: Thursday, June 03, 1999 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: x-10 and pic. Off-topic


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1999\06\04@074021 by hno

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Please add me too
Thanks

Henrik

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Me too!! Vic Lopez
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