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2003\08\07@162817 by gtyler

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Use a 6mm Dia toriod as a transformer and drive it from the pic ports at
high freq. I use this to sense a ptc resistor to measure heatsink temp.

George
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2003\08\08@012241 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> Use a 6mm Dia toriod as a transformer and drive it from the
> pic ports at
> high freq. I use this to sense a ptc resistor to measure
> heatsink temp.

How do you do the measurement?

Wouter van Ooijen

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2003\08\08@021702 by Vasile Surducan

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On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, Wouter van Ooijen wrote:

> > Use a 6mm Dia toriod as a transformer and drive it from the
> > pic ports at
> > high freq. I use this to sense a ptc resistor to measure
> > heatsink temp.
>
> How do you do the measurement?
>

 The current which is flowing in the primary will be proportional with
the primary pulsed voltage and with the mutual impedance of the
secondary ( secondary inductance reflected in the primary coil) so with
the load from the secondary. In my opinion it's an ugly methode. :)

 I've guess your switches are doing something else too, or just some
commands to microcontroller ? How many switches do you have ?
If there are many is a wrong ideea to isolate them one by one with
transformers.

Vasile

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2003\08\08@023603 by Wouter van Ooijen

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>   I've guess your switches are doing something else too,

no

> or just some
> commands to microcontroller ?

yes

> How many switches do you have ?

varies, 1..8

> If there are many is a wrong ideea to isolate them one by one with
> transformers.

But I want them to be isolated both from the microcontroller and from
each other! These switches are on different machines, probably tens of
meters apart.

Wouter van Ooijen

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2003\08\08@025924 by Vasile Surducan
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, Wouter van Ooijen wrote:

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 Ok, understood. If the buttons are far away, my sugestion is *one* DC/DC
isolated converter with n outputs, where n = button numbers, + one
optoisolator for every button, or just a n secondary coil AC transformer.
The sensing input may be a simple optocoupler (two IR diodes optocoupler
or just one IR diode optocoupler and one external antiparalel diode for
direct AC sensing). For more than 10m you'll need at least 2mA in buttons
for corect sensing.

Vasile

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2003\08\08@030546 by David Huisman

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Check out http://www.qprox.com

They have a 4 channel capacitance measurement IC that can be used as non-contact switches.

You then interface to the mirco with 4 IO lines (SDO,SDI,REQ,BUSY) and 1 more if you want to have 2 devices (8 switches).

The devices can be calibrated to operate throgh front panels of equipment but not effect each other.


Kind Regards

David Huisman


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