Post by thread:rules and guidence

Ravi Pailoor wrote: > > Hi guys, > > I am new to PIClist. Are there any rules and guidence in posting to > PIClist ? > > For example, to post a mesage, the format to follow ...... There are no set rules, but if you stick to the following, you will find more people are willing to help you : 1) Never use HTML in your email. 2) Never attach anything. 3) Try to use a relevant subject line for the topic. 4) If you post off-topic mail, use [OT] anywhere in the subject line. 5) Try not to quote too much - just enough so the thread is apparent. 6) Ignore "Get rich quickly", or "Virus Warning" postings 7) Capital letters constitute "shouting", so go easy on them. Seeing as you didn't violate any of the netiquette guidelines, you are already on the right path. Welcome to the PIClist! -- Friendly Regards /"\ \ / Tjaart van der Walt X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN spam_OUTtjaartTakeThisOuTwasp.co.za / \ AGAINST HTML MAIL |--------------------------------------------------| | WASP International | |R&D Engineer : GSM peripheral services development| |--------------------------------------------------| | Mobile : .....tjaartKILLspam@spam@sms.wasp.co.za (160 text chars) | | http://www.wasp.co.za/~tjaart/index.html | |Voice: +27-(0)11-622-8686 Fax: +27-(0)11-622-8973| | WGS-84 : 26¡10.52'S 28¡06.19'E | |--------------------------------------------------|

Tjaart van der Walt wrote: > > Ravi Pailoor wrote: > > > > Hi guys, > > > > I am new to PIClist. Are there any rules and guidence in posting to > > PIClist ? > > > > For example, to post a mesage, the format to follow ...... > > There are no set rules, but if you stick to the > following, you will find more people are willing > to help you : > > 1) Never use HTML in your email. > 2) Never attach anything In this case I dont agree, I would say "try to avoid attachments". Because I learned a lot on everything I got. Well large attachments can cause trouble, remebering the story about a scientest from russia which once had to pay half his montly income to his provider because someone attached a 10Megs File to an E-Mail. Try to send attachments as often as possible as private mail. {Quote hidden}> 3) Try to use a relevant subject line for the topic. > 4) If you post off-topic mail, use [OT] anywhere in the subject line. > 5) Try not to quote too much - just enough so the thread is apparent. > 6) Ignore "Get rich quickly", or "Virus Warning" postings > 7) Capital letters constitute "shouting", so go easy on them. > > Seeing as you didn't violate any of the netiquette guidelines, > you are already on the right path. > > Welcome to the PIClist! > > -- > Friendly Regards /"\ > \ / > Tjaart van der Walt X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN > tjaartKILLspamwasp.co.za / \ AGAINST HTML MAIL > |--------------------------------------------------| > | WASP International | > |R&D Engineer : GSM peripheral services development| > |--------------------------------------------------| > | Mobile : .....tjaartKILLspam.....sms.wasp.co.za (160 text chars) | > | http://www.wasp.co.za/~tjaart/index.html | > |Voice: +27-(0)11-622-8686 Fax: +27-(0)11-622-8973| > | WGS-84 : 26010.52'S 28006.19'E | > |--------------------------------------------------|

Tjaart van der Walt wrote: {Quote hidden}> > Ravi Pailoor wrote: > > > > Hi guys, > > > > I am new to PIClist. Are there any rules and guidence in posting to > > PIClist ? > > > > For example, to post a mesage, the format to follow ...... > > There are no set rules, but if you stick to the > following, you will find more people are willing > to help you : > > 1) Never use HTML in your email. > 2) Never attach anything. > 3) Try to use a relevant subject line for the topic. > 4) If you post off-topic mail, use [OT] anywhere in the subject line. > 5) Try not to quote too much - just enough so the thread is apparent. > 6) Ignore "Get rich quickly", or "Virus Warning" postings > 7) Capital letters constitute "shouting", so go easy on them. Great points! I'd add 3 sub-notes and 4 more points: 1a) Also turning "line wrap" on, and turning off the "Address Book Card" feature on your browser, are good, or expect some people to gripe. Ask for help if needed, the PICList membership uses MANY different browsers, many of which don't speak HTML, attachments, long lines of text, or Address Book Cardese. Some people pay by the byte - dearly - for your chouce of sending your post to them, so spend their money wisely <G> 2a) It works well to post a URL to a drawing, schematic, picture, or web page, or offer to e-mail it in private e-mail - with a quick explanation of why the URL should be jumped to; Give people a choice, and an idea what the choice is, for Anything Large. If a 25-line code fragment contains the problem then including that in your post is OK; Over 60 or 100 or so lines, should probably be on a web page, or e-mail to those who reply and say they'll help. The more pairs of eyes looking at your code, the quicker the bugs will be found, BUT, only if those eyes are interested (If I'm making ANY sense, this late at night <G>) 4a) If you put [OT] in a post, don't worry if someone gripes as it's not directly PIC related (should still be peripherally related - [OT] doesn't make a 125 kB post about your summer vacation, or mine, something we all want to read, unless you're really good and funny - or, your summer vacation was spent porting Java to the 16F84, complete with occasional safety tips and stories of how those safety tips saved you personal injuries. So jokes should usually be PICList-related, or at least electronics related. And funny <G>) 8) If you get a "Your message was rejected" message, read it carefully - don't just post your post again, as sometimes the rejection message is from another subscriber who's closed their mailbox (your message posts to the whole list, one person's ISP gives you a "Joe's not here anymore" reply, if you then post to the whole list again, all 1700+ of us get a second copy of your post. And some of us growl <G> 9) You DID save your "how to unsubscribe" directions, right? <G> (Not for you, to post at anyone foolish enough to post "unsubscribe" to the whole list, though, if I'm on vacation.) 10) You probably already know this 'un, people have bad days & misunderstand each other, worse in e-mail than in real life (this problem's bad enough in real life, face to face!) Understand that your point of view, -and- the other person's point of view, may both be parts of the whole truth, neither actually contradicting the other (just SEEMING to!) (Reference: The story of the three blind men who meet an elephant.) We're all human, we go too far, we make mistakes, we get angry, all that - and we help each other get better at PICing usually, a little tolerance goes a long ways. 11) There's a mini-FAQ for the list, I'm supposed to be posting it monthly or so and maintaining it, I'm late on it. Harassing me motivates me, I guess <G> [Spent 6 hours today trying to get a guy's 386 desktop and the 386 laptop I'm selling to him for cheap, both working so I can transfer his data to the laptop & sell it to him. He harassed me enough, I guess <G>] Mark, who's going to bed now.

Mark Willis wrote: {Quote hidden}> > Tjaart van der Walt wrote: > > > > Ravi Pailoor wrote: > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > I am new to PIClist. Are there any rules and guidence in posting to > > > PIClist ? > > > > > > For example, to post a mesage, the format to follow ...... > > > > There are no set rules, but if you stick to the > > following, you will find more people are willing > > to help you : > > > > 1) Never use HTML in your email. > > 2) Never attach anything. > > 3) Try to use a relevant subject line for the topic. > > 4) If you post off-topic mail, use [OT] anywhere in the subject line. > > 5) Try not to quote too much - just enough so the thread is apparent. > > 6) Ignore "Get rich quickly", or "Virus Warning" postings > > 7) Capital letters constitute "shouting", so go easy on them. > > Great points! I'd add 3 sub-notes and 4 more points: I forgot the last one : Never, ever, argue with Scott, John, Dmitry, or Eric. If you are in a situation where you disagree with anyone of them, you are either wrong, or completely off the track. If you disagree with more than one of them at once, you need a check-up from the neck-up. <BG> -- Friendly Regards /"\ \ / Tjaart van der Walt X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN EraseMEtjaartspam_OUTTakeThisOuTwasp.co.za / \ AGAINST HTML MAIL |--------------------------------------------------| | WASP International | |R&D Engineer : GSM peripheral services development| |--------------------------------------------------| | Mobile : tjaartspam_OUTsms.wasp.co.za (160 text chars) | | http://www.wasp.co.za/~tjaart/index.html | |Voice: +27-(0)11-622-8686 Fax: +27-(0)11-622-8973| | WGS-84 : 26¡10.52'S 28¡06.19'E | |--------------------------------------------------|