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1999\02\02@041334 by Jan Derogee

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Hello all,
i was wondering is there a possibillity of uploading entire project
to a central internet-page (like the aminet for amiga-computers).
This way we can learn from other peoples projects instead of their
questions. Is there anyone who thinks the same like me ?

regards, Jan

1999\02\02@083437 by ryan pogge

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sounds good to me


>Hello all,
>i was wondering is there a possibillity of uploading entire project
>to a central internet-page (like the aminet for amiga-computers).
>This way we can learn from other peoples projects instead of their
>questions. Is there anyone who thinks the same like me ?
>
>regards, Jan

1999\02\02@100155 by Bob Drzyzgula

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At least I think that this would be a cool idea. I know
that there are several people out there that have
put up PIC-releated websites that contain their own
work, but I wonder how many people have some
stuff laying around that they'd be happly to release
but don't have the exigence to do so.

I have some virtual hosting resources for drzyzgula.org
that I'm not much utilizing right now, and would be
interested in contributing the website for this
if this makes sense to others (unless Jan was saying
he wanted to do this, or someone else is already
doing it...)

--Bob


On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 09:49:00AM +0100, Jan Derogee wrote:
> Hello all,
> i was wondering is there a possibillity of uploading entire project
> to a central internet-page (like the aminet for amiga-computers).
> This way we can learn from other peoples projects instead of their
> questions. Is there anyone who thinks the same like me ?
>
> regards, Jan

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1999\02\02@161648 by Jan Derogee

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whooo bob now youre going to fast, i mentioned the idea
of uploading projects to the pic-list. I'm not the person
for executing it, because i've got not the capabilities to do
so. However i hope that my idea is shared by more PIC'rs
out there. Hope that someone else is capable of setting up
such a 'project', by the way email is my only internet
experience i've got, so please do not overestimate me.

But bob, i think we are thinking the same, i've got at least
6 small but really nice and easy to build pic-projects, incl.
software, schematics ofcourse.

regards, Jan

Bob Drzyzgula wrote:

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1999\02\03@035604 by Andy Barnett

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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:49:00 +0100, you wrote:

Excellent idea!

>Hello all,
>i was wondering is there a possibillity of uploading entire project
>to a central internet-page (like the aminet for amiga-computers).
>This way we can learn from other peoples projects instead of their
>questions. Is there anyone who thinks the same like me ?
>
>regards, Jan

Cheers
Andy B
andyspamKILLspamabtec.demon.co.uk
http://www.abtec.demon,co.uk

1999\02\03@074835 by Alan Nickerson

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I think I can do it. Give me a couple of day to configure and test....

Alan Nickerson
PICList Web Archive Curator
http://www.iversoft.com/piclist

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1999\02\03@105229 by Ralph Stickley

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Sounds like a great idea... some of the pic sites I've seen have a
couple of hundred links and no quick way to find a piece of code you
need - major information overload.  The Micro-chip app notes are handy,
but they need to be expanded, and I don't think Micro-chip is going to
do many more (or make theirs work), so....

I would be interested in being able to quickly share source code from
other projects.  There are always several ways of doing something
(simple in-line, interrupt based, optimized for speed, optimized for
code space, optimized for variable space and so on) so there would be
several implementations for every category.

Some categories to start with:

On-chip drivers:
A/D, SSI, IIC, Serial port, PSP, PWM
output, startup code, interrupt parsing,...

Math routines:
random numbers, divides, multiplies, big integers, ...

Macros:
control flow, on-chip support(bank switching,
page switching),table lookups,  ...

Operating environments:
schedulers, task switching, state machines, on-chip stacks,...

Protocols:
parsers, touch screen, mouse output, 1-wire i/o, ...

Peripheral support:
eeproms, real time clocks, shift registers, keypads,...

Neat stuff:
hour meter, nvram database, rolling averages, PID controls,  ...
etc...

(Just think how many newbie questions could be answered
here!)

Then we don't have to try to interpret the schematics and dig through an
entire project, just to do a simple piece of code which has been done a
zillion times before. Any hardware specific notes should be clearly
identified; code should be mostly re-locatable; except for the on-chip
stuff, most of the code should be non-chip specific. Other guidelines
may apply...

Of course such a site may exist, or maybe some of the pic books have
addressed this, I just haven't found it yet :-)  I have lots of little
files that I can share in most of the categories listed above, so
somebody just tell me where to stick 'em  !:-o)

Just my $0.02 worth.  Good luck...

Ralph
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Jan Derogee wrote:

> Hello all,
> i was wondering is there a possibillity of uploading entire project
> to a central internet-page (like the aminet for amiga-computers).
> This way we can learn from other peoples projects instead of their
> questions. Is there anyone who thinks the same like me ?
>
> regards, Jan

1999\02\03@120517 by Frank Hreczuch

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I think this would be a great idea as well !!  The only question I have,
and maybe someone out there can answer this, is, what program can be
used to generate schematic or board layout drawings in GIF format for
inclusion in a document ??  This has been on my mind for some time now
and haven't had much success in locating a cad program that will save in
'GIF' format or even export a file in 'GIF' format.  Hope someone out
there has a solution.

Best regards,
Frank

1999\02\03@130738 by Eisermann, Phil

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> I think this would be a great idea as well !!  The only question I
> have,
> and maybe someone out there can answer this, is, what program can be
> used to generate schematic or board layout drawings in GIF format for
> inclusion in a document ??
>
       this question seems to come up every now and
       then. if there is ever a FAQ, it should be
       included.

       the short answer is that Ghostscript (ghostview?)
       is probably your answer. if you're running windoze,
       you  install a postscript printer driver, and direct
       the output to a file. you now have a postscript
       file of your schematic.

       then you use ghostscript to read the postscript
       file, and convert it to another format. It
       can handle several formats, among them jpg, gif,
       and pdf.

       best of all, it is free software, available
       for many different platforms. do a websearch
       to find it (don't have the URL right now).

1999\02\03@131753 by Andres Tarzia

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<        best of all, it is free software, available
>        for many different platforms. do a websearch
>        to find it (don't have the URL right now).
>

Why not use .PDF directly? after all, Microchip documentation itself is in
.PDF format, hence every one of us is prepared

1999\02\03@141949 by Gerhard Fiedler

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At 15:18 02/03/99 -0300, Andres Tarzia wrote:
>>> I think this would be a great idea as well !!  The only question I
>>> have,
>>> and maybe someone out there can answer this, is, what program can be
>>> used to generate schematic or board layout drawings in GIF format for
>>> inclusion in a document ??
>>>
>
>Why not use .PDF directly? after all, Microchip documentation itself is in
>.PDF format, hence every one of us is prepared

one reason for gif/jpeg is that they can be included directly in simple
html pages, which are easier to view on the www.

ge

1999\02\03@175633 by Graeme Smith

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Hmmm.... looking at this, I thought I might put my own two cents in..

How about a "Library" section where we can upload "Standard" libraries
for each chip...

For instance, I recently was experimenting with "Object" code modules
and thought it would be relatively easy to take the "Reset" and "Start"
and "INIT" routines from my code, and put them into a chip-specific
library sort of like the chip specific include, linker, etc files.

This way I could have "Standard" initializations for a range of chips
already programmed into my "Template" file all I would have to do, is
link in the right "Library".

Assuming any "Standardization" in the startup and initialization code
for all chips, this would mean that we could at least have a base system
that was consistent despite individual chip initialization routines.

                               GREY

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Address has changed with little warning!
(I moved across the hall! :) )

Email will remain constant... at least for now.

1999\02\03@181238 by Jan Derogee

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Ehmmm, perhaps you could print your schematic and then
scan it with a scanner, camera, or whatever. It aint impossible.
By the way, i draw my schematics in a drawing program.
regards, jan

Frank Hreczuch wrote:

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1999\02\03@181247 by Jan Derogee

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wow, somebody who is capable of taking action,
this could be a breakthrough for the PIC. Thanks
Alan Nickerson.

regards, Jan

Alan Nickerson wrote:

> I think I can do it. Give me a couple of day to configure and test....
>
> Alan Nickerson
> PICList Web Archive Curator
> http://www.iversoft.com/piclist
>
> {Original Message removed}

1999\02\03@182122 by dave vanhorn

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At 11:40 PM 2/3/99 +0100, Jan Derogee wrote:
>Ehmmm, perhaps you could print your schematic and then
>scan it with a scanner, camera, or whatever. It aint impossible.
>By the way, i draw my schematics in a drawing program.
>regards, jan
>

If you have a windows schematic program, then you can plot/print your
schematics to gif/tiff/jpg with SuperPrint. It adds "printers" to most
popular graphics file formats.

1999\02\04@064325 by Arjen G. Lentz

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Alan Nickerson wrote:

> > i was wondering is there a possibillity of uploading entire project to
> a central internet-page [...]
> > This way we can learn from other peoples projects instead of their
> questions.
>
> I think I can do it. Give me a couple of day to configure and test....

It's a nice idea.
However, from personal experience I have to say that I'm generally not
looking for complete projects.
Rather, I'd want to take a look at how other people deal with some
specific thingie.
This could involve hardware design, firmware, or both.


Which also brings up another point that might be relevant to the creation
of an archive/database site....
I'm not at all whizzy with electronics, but pretty good at producing nifty
code.
(at the time when I started programming, RAM was scarce... that's why I
love PICs: you can once again take pride in writing smart&small code. On
PC's etc it is -unfortunately!- no longer an issue....)

Anyway, sometimes I'm just completely stuck with bits of electronics
design.... I'm sure plenty of people could solve those problems in their
sleep! ;-)
On my part, I'm quite willing to work on little programming problems other
people have, and publishing the code.

I'd be very interested in a site that would support such a scheme....
And organized way of posting a specific question, and for others to post a
solution (or perhaps even 'reserve' that prob for themselves so the wheel
doesn't need to be invented umpteen times).
This would create a database of very useful info.
After all, any project can just be regarded as a set of hardware and
firmware modules that someone wants to stick together. And of course, some
of those modules have yet to be designed! ;-)

On a fun note, the site could even hold a competition for the shortest
code solution to a particular problem.
Nice challence to keep the programmers awake ;-)


If webspace is an issue, I might be able to help.
I have limited bandwidth but unlimited diskspace/access and no traffic
charges.

Regards, Arjen.

1999\02\04@064951 by Caisson

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> Van: Andres Tarzia <EraseMEATarziaspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTSMART.COM.AR>
> Aan: PICLISTspamspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Onderwerp: Re: project uploading
> Datum: woensdag 3 februari 1999 19:18
>
> >> I think this would be a great idea as well !!  The only question I
> >> have,
> >> and maybe someone out there can answer this, is, what program can be
> >> used to generate schematic or board layout drawings in GIF format for
> >> inclusion in a document ??

<Snip>

> Why not use .PDF directly? after all, Microchip documentation itself is
in
> .PDF format, hence every one of us is prepared

Right. Everyone (?) can read it.  Provided that he can install a PDF-reader
(not everyone uses Win95/98).  Just one snag ...  Allmost no-one has got a
PDF _Writer_ ....

Ahh ... The power of advertisement.  Distribute one part of {anything} for
free so that everybody gets dependend on it, and _Sell_ the counter-part.

By the way : I _like_ PDF-files and the associated reader.  The only thing
I miss is a Zoom-out function ...

Greetz,
 Rudy Wieser

1999\02\04@121214 by w. v. ooijen / f. hanneman

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When you have the schematics on screen use a screen grabber, I use the one
Paint Shop Pro but there are numerous.
Other options:
- ASCII art (ugly)
- a generic drawing program, I use microsoft word...
regards,
Wouter.

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1999\02\04@143324 by gwaiche

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Hi!

With most computers you can make a snap-shot of the content
of
any window, and paste it into a picture viewer like graphic
workshop
and then save it to Jpeg. This way any schematic software
could be
used.

Gael


Frank Hreczuch wrote:
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1999\02\06@114125 by Rob

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I think photoshop will. I believe it takes autocad 2d formats...
rob

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