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'Programmer Software'
1996\11\26@062216 by efoc

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Hi PPL,
       Im Looking for Windows based Programing Software that'l Run with David
Tiats 16C84 programmer. I havemost of the DOS based ones but I am a
dedicated Windows User and the idea of not bieng able to use my mouse to
navigate my software is against my principles. Soooo if anybody out
there can point me in the right direction then I would be most
greatfull.


Thanks in advance Peter ......

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1996\11\26@131743 by Antti Lukats

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At 11:21 AM 11/26/96 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi PPL,

http://www.sistudio.com/sistudio/download.html

just uploaded a windows programming software for D. Tait comaptible
programmers,

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Cant agree more :)
-- Silicon Studio Ltd.
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1996\11\26@220306 by Hank Gupton

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Antti Lukats wrote:

>http://www.sistudio.com/sistudio/download.html
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>just uploaded a windows programming software for D. Tait comaptible
>programmers,

 Does that come with source code?

 I'm designing an in-circuit programmer for the 16C84, also.  If there is
already a Public Domain programmer, then I am re-inventing the wheel and I
should adopt D. Tait's design.

 What do you say?  Can we have the source code?

 -- Hank

1996\11\27@024357 by Antti Lukats

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At 08:02 PM 11/26/96 -0700, you wrote:
>Antti Lukats wrote:
>
>>http://www.sistudio.com/sistudio/download.html
>>
>>just uploaded a windows programming software for D. Tait comaptible
>>programmers,
>
>  Does that come with source code?
>
>  I'm designing an in-circuit programmer for the 16C84, also.  If there is
>already a Public Domain programmer, then I am re-inventing the wheel and I
>should adopt D. Tait's design.
>
>  What do you say?  Can we have the source code?

Basically you can if you want it, it comes with PINAPI SDK so if you
write a programmer host software based on that it will work on *most*
DIY programmers (not only D. Tait design), at least with all the programmers
we have or will release drivers - that was the original concept.

We have currently libraries and drivers for DOS and Win 3.11/95 but we made
some C experiments too under DJGPP, but havent yet moved to Linux.

but for DOS/Win yes all required to write custom PIC programming front-ends
can be obtained from us

cheers antti

PS the Win version is currently not supplied with all drivers, check the DOS
version to see list of supported programmers
-- Silicon Studio Ltd.
-- http://www.sistudio.com


'Programmer Software'
1998\03\04@220410 by Vu Hoang
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Does anyone know where I can get information on on the specifications of
writing a program for a parallel or serial port programmer?  I looked at
microchips homepage, but I coun't find it.  Does anyone have the algorithm
to write your own software or know the exact URL location as to where I can
get specifications?

I would really appreciate it ..

Thanks
John

1998\03\05@032001 by Luc Martin

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>Does anyone know where I can get information on on the specifications of
>writing a program for a parallel or serial port programmer?
 I wrote one for David Tait's programmer (parallel port). To port it to
another parallel programmer, you only need to have a look to the hardware
and modify the source to adapt logic levels. Mail me directly if you want
the source (TP7). Have a look on my page...


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1998\03\08@180234 by Jorge Ferreira

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At 22:11 98.03.04 -0500, you wrote:
>Does anyone know where I can get information on on the specifications of
>writing a program for a parallel or serial port programmer?  I looked at
>microchips homepage, but I coun't find it.  Does anyone have the algorithm
>to write your own software or know the exact URL location as to where I can
>get specifications?
>
>I would really appreciate it ..
>
>Thanks
>John


       Hi John

Try starting with these documents that can be found at the Microchip Web site

       30198d.pdf 30190f.pdf 30262a.pdf 30277b.pdf

I think the exact address is http://www.microchip.com/10/Datasheet/Specs.htm


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'programmer software'
1998\07\12@153746 by Don
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Hi all
    I'm just at the flashing led- learning stage. I have the ITU pic1
programmer, and I wonder if there is any better driver programs for it.
Strangely enough, it wont even let you specify which directory the hex
file is in. I'm also wondering if there are any quick reference cards. I
used to have some nice plastic ones for 8080 and 6502 that had all the
instructions, registers and so forth. It really kept from wearing out
ones thumbs while looking through books.. Something along that line
would be great for pics, especially with the special function registers
and their definitions.
Don

1998\07\12@155243 by Lewis H. Cobb

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Don - get the data book and just photocopy the page with the instruction
summary for the processor family that you are using.  That's what I did as
a newcomer to PICs about a month ago - next to the picture of me at the
"big kiwi" tourist trap in New Zealand, it's the most important thing
pinned to the wall in the lab here :)

Cheers

Lewis





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1998\07\12@155447 by Peter L. Peres

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On Sun, 12 Jul 1998, Don wrote:

> Hi all
>      I'm just at the flashing led- learning stage. I have the ITU pic1
> programmer, and I wonder if there is any better driver programs for it.
> Strangely enough, it wont even let you specify which directory the hex
> file is in. I'm also wondering if there are any quick reference cards. I
> used to have some nice plastic ones for 8080 and 6502 that had all the
> instructions, registers and so forth. It really kept from wearing out
> ones thumbs while looking through books.. Something along that line
> would be great for pics, especially with the special function registers
> and their definitions.
> Don

You can print out the relevant pages of the PDF data sheet of the PIC you
are using, and tack them together. I used a photocopier and the Microchip
Data Book in 1995 for the same purpose ;)

The pages that I picked were: The instruction table page, the instruction
description pages, the SFR table and some of the SFR register descriptions
that are more confused imho. After 2 weeks of using them I stopped needing
them. imho, one BIG advantage on the PIC side vs. nearly all others is the
learning curve.

I'd like to know what it felt like to learn the i960 from someone who did
(i.e. not in school), in the same context (I don't know i960, except
basic familiarity with data sheets etc).

Peter

1998\07\12@160028 by hansen

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Don wrote:
>
> Hi all
>      I'm just at the flashing led- learning stage. I have the ITU pic1
> programmer, and I wonder if there is any better driver programs for it.
> Strangely enough, it wont even let you specify which directory the hex
> file is in. I'm also wondering if there are any quick reference cards. I
> used to have some nice plastic ones for 8080 and 6502 that had all the
> instructions, registers and so forth. It really kept from wearing out
> ones thumbs while looking through books.. Something along that line
> would be great for pics, especially with the special function registers
> and their definitions.
> Don


There are two other programs that I use.  If you are looking
for a nice interface (though it is a DOS program it runs in
a Dos Window) try PIX.  You will have to specify that you
are using it with a parallel port and using a TAIT06T programmer.
It lets you get a good view of what's going on in the PIC.  It
also runs MUCH faster than the program that comes with the ITU
programmer

You can find it off of :

http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-53783/

When you get to the point of using MPLAB or something like the
CCS compiler, you will want something that is a fast command
line programmer.  The programmer that comes with the ITU unit
will work for this, but it is very slow... I think this is
because it reprograms every location in the PIC regardless of
whether you changed the code that goes into all of them or not.
For this I use a program called PP.  I believe I found it
on a link off of David  Tait's PIC page.

I think that the ITU programmer is wonderful and use it virtually
every day.  However, I tossed the software that came with it
a long time ago.

John Hansen
hansenspamKILLspamfredonia.edu

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