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1997\09\03@044403 by mikesmith_oz

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On  2 Sep 97 at 16:20, Shane Nelson wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Sep 1997, myke predko wrote:
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> > Boy, did you leave yourself open on this one.
> >
> > >Here's the situation:...
> > <Nuked>
> > ...Which usually means you're NOT on a peice of code. But I
> > >clearly am.

Don't worry Shane - when you get right down to it, we are all just
pieces of code (fairly complex ones, too) - from our DNA down to our
snappy little synapses and neurons.

> > "One must invoke enough raw truth to punch a hole in the world" - Darl Af
> >
>
> Punch? How about invoking enough precise knowledge to poke a hole in
> it?:)

Darl Arf clearly was a punched card operator.  Probably Cobol too,
which is worse.
MikeS
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1997\09\04@151917 by Andrew G Williams

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Mike Smith said:

>Don't worry Shane - when you get right down to it, we are all just
>pieces of code (fairly complex ones, too) - from our DNA down to our
>snappy little synapses and neurons.

Ho hum - here we go again. "We are all just pieces of code". How many [OT]
messages will this invoke concerning the nature of conciousness and whether
or not algorithmically-based systems can be aware of their own existence? No
more than this one, I hope. Just read the Penrose books.

Andy W.

1997\09\05@020720 by mikesmith_oz

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On  4 Sep 97 at 15:18, Andrew G Williams wrote:
> aware of their own existence? No more than this one, I hope. Just
> read the Penrose books.
>

I'll be obtuse and say "What are the Penrose Books, and who is this
Penrose chap?"
MikeS
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1997\09\06@013638 by Leon Heller

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In message <199709050606.PAA26206spamKILLspampasteur.dialix.com.au>, Mike Smith
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>On  4 Sep 97 at 15:18, Andrew G Williams wrote:
>> aware of their own existence? No more than this one, I hope. Just
>> read the Penrose books.
>>
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>I'll be obtuse and say "What are the Penrose Books, and who is this
>Penrose chap?"
>MikeS
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Roger Penrose is an eminent British mathematician who has written a
book, The Emperor's New Mind (concerning computers, minds, and the laws
of physics), attacking the idea that computers will ever achieve
consciousness. It's well worth reading.

Leon
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