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'Orcad libraries?'
1997\07\28@053955 by nvdw

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Hi ppl.

Where can I find Orcad (Capture 7.01 and Layout 7.01) libraries
for PIC's ? Mainly the 16x84 16C74,77 etc.

Orcad themselves have nutting....

Thanks
Nic


'[OT]: Reasonably Current Eagle PIC libraries?'
2001\05\18@235126 by JB
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Specifically, a 16F873, .3" DIP package.

The "microchip" library with Eagle v4 has 16F874 & 877, but none of the
873/6. The pic.lbr on Cadsoft's site has the 873, but uses .6" pin spacing,
not the more common .3" which I need. I see numerous other models missing
too.

Piclist.com has some messages when searching for eagle libraries, but it's
password protected, and thanks, but no, I'm not interested in creating an
account. It's tough to buy the anti-spam excuse for protecting that site on
a per-user basis when these messages are all over usenet anyway. The other
archive I tried had little information.

Google didn't pan out either.

Microchip has nothing of course.

I'm out of ideas, short of making my own. Not a big deal, but I just cannot
believe they don't exist in plain view on at least one of those sites. I
have to be missing it - pointers anyone?

Thanks -JB

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2001\05\19@023122 by Mark Newland

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The "microchip" library was created by a user (if I'm correct) and not created
by Eagle or Microchip.  Since it is probally maintained by the user that
created it, updates are probally not done in a timely manner.  At least you
have something that you can work from.

JB wrote:

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2001\05\19@042005 by Roman Black

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JB wrote:
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> Specifically, a 16F873, .3" DIP package.
>
> The "microchip" library with Eagle v4 has 16F874 & 877, but none of the
> 873/6. The pic.lbr on Cadsoft's site has the 873, but uses .6" pin spacing,
> not the more common .3" which I need. I see numerous other models missing
> too.


Hi JB, I remember most of those PCB editors have
a PIC of the right size. There should be at least
one of each PIC in 18 pin, 28pin, etc etc. They all
have basically the same pin assignment.

Other than that, it's not hard to create new chips,
if you have the package type already done, just
draw a symbol and assign pins. The tutorial should
show you how.
:o)
-Roman

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2001\05\19@084546 by JB

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I've used the library editor - it's pretty easy to create parts for what I
need, and Eagle in general has been a very good system. No complaints
there.. I was just baffled to learn that there are no comprehensive
libraries for the PIC parts, especially when I needed them :) Although as
Mark said, at least there's something there. FWIW, I don't see any of the
28-pin in the .3" package in either of those libraries, so I'm off to make
my own.

Thanks -JB

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2001\05\19@090242 by JB

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Looks like the 16F642P in pic.lbr is the same configuration. Problem solved.

Thanks -JB

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'[PIC]: Updated Eagle Libraries?'
2005\07\02@205321 by Steve Murphy
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Am I the only one who can never find anything in the list archives? I
just wish I could search the archives via Google.

Does anyone have an updated Eagle (CadSoft) library including a 12F675?
I could probably figure out how to modify a library for this purpose
eventually, but would like to not take that detour right now. I've
searched the web and came up dry.

Thanks,

 --Steve

2005\07\02@211316 by Steve Murphy

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> Does anyone have an updated Eagle (CadSoft) library including a 12F675?

I guess the pinouts are the same for the 12C509 so I'll just use that.
Is that what everyone does? The Eagle PIC library is pretty stale.
Circuit Cellar just did an article on gEDA. Is that a better package
than Eagle?

2005\07\02@230532 by William Chops Westfield

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>> Does anyone have an updated Eagle (CadSoft) library including a
>> 12F675?
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Olin posted his updated library on June 23...

Olin: is there some reason you can't put this on your pic development
tools webpage along with the ASPIC stuff?

As for the archives, it looks like the "full text search" at piclist.com
doesn't include the email headers (subject or sender) or names of
attachments, which can make finding this sort of thing difficult (James:
is that easy to change?)  A search for "weeks and pic10f" should turn
up the correct message: 2005/06/23/074845a

BillW

2005\07\02@231443 by William Chops Westfield

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On Jul 2, 2005, at 6:13 PM, Steve Murphy wrote:

>> Does anyone have an updated Eagle (CadSoft) library including a
>> 12F675?
>
> I guess the pinouts are the same for the 12C509 so I'll just use that.

Don't do SMT that way.  I think the 675 is in a narrower package than
the c509...  (Hmm.  But looks like the same as the c509a comes in
BOTH widths...)

BillW

2005\07\03@013936 by Steve Murphy

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William Chops Westfield wrote:

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>>> Does anyone have an updated Eagle (CadSoft) library including a 12F675?
>>>
> Olin posted his updated library on June 23...
>
> Olin: is there some reason you can't put this on your pic development
> tools webpage along with the ASPIC stuff?
>
> As for the archives, it looks like the "full text search" at piclist.com
> doesn't include the email headers (subject or sender) or names of
> attachments, which can make finding this sort of thing difficult (James:
> is that easy to change?)  A search for "weeks and pic10f" should turn
> up the correct message: 2005/06/23/074845a
>
> BillW

And so it did! And the pic.lbr file worked like a charm in Eagle. THANK YOU!

Part of my frustration was that my Google search *did* result in a hit
on the piclist site:
http://www.piclist.com/techref/pcbcads.htm
That page said, "At least one library that you can be confident in is
the PIC <microchip/index.htm> library (pic.scr
</images/boards/pic.scr.txt>)  created by Olin Lathrop of EmbedInc.com
<http://www.embedinc.com/pic>." Well, the "library" on that page is a
pic.scr file, which is apparently a script. I ran it hoping that I just
didn't undertand and an .lbr file would magically appear after I ran it,
but Eagle just complained that the light version couldn't run that file.
I can only guess that the wrong file was posted to that page.

Thanks again,

 --Steve.

2005\07\03@090733 by olin piclist

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Steve Murphy wrote:
> Well, the "library" on that page is a
> pic.scr file, which is apparently a script.

There is no reason to guess.  The .SCR suffix is the standard suffix for an
Eagle script file.  Even a 2 second peek with a text editor would have made
that clear.

> I ran it hoping that I
> just didn't undertand and an .lbr file would magically appear after I
> ran it, but Eagle just complained that the light version couldn't run
> that file.
> I can only guess that the wrong file was posted to that page.

It sounds like the same file I posted a month or two ago to the PIClist.
Others were able to create a library from it just fine.


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2005\07\03@113834 by olin piclist

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William Chops Westfield wrote:
> Olin: is there some reason you can't put this on your pic development
> tools webpage along with the ASPIC stuff?

Just that its a bunch of work to create and test the release scripts, update
the web page, etc, when I really should be doing other things.  But, I've
done that now so it will be easier to make incremental changes going
forward.

There is now an Eagle tools download at
http://www.embedinc.com/pic/dload.htm.  The PIC library is in there, plus a
few other things like scripts and ULPs.  Install it and look around.


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2005\07\03@174736 by William Chops Westfield

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>  [Olin's library in SCR format]
>> I ran it hoping that I just didn't undertand and an .lbr file
>>  would magically appear after I ran it, but Eagle just complained
>>  that the light version couldn't run that file.

Did you run the script from the library editor, or from the board
editor?  I'm pretty sure you need to run it from the library editor,
and there are assorted things one can do in the freeware library
editor that might result in the error you got from the board editor
(such as "add" a package CENTERED on the origin.)  I'm surprised
that it didn't result in other errors earlier, but it MIGHT be
possible...

BillW

2005\07\03@180641 by William Chops Westfield

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On Jul 3, 2005, at 8:38 AM, Olin Lathrop wrote:

>> Olin: is there some reason you can't put this on your pic development
>> tools webpage along with the ASPIC stuff?
>
> Just that its a bunch of work to create and test the release scripts,
>  update the web page, etc, when I really should be doing other things.

Yeah; I've noticed that there's a lot more effort in creating and
maintaining a web page than most people expect.  (actually, in
*maintaining* ANY document, but web pages are probably the most
common sort of dynamic document that people run into.)  I was
hoping that since you already have a web page with similar content,
the incremental effort required would be relatively small..

> But, I've done that now so it will be easier to make
> incremental changes going forward.
>
Thank you very much!

BillW

2005\07\03@204414 by Steve Murphy

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Olin Lathrop wrote:

>Steve Murphy wrote:
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>
>>Well, the "library" on that page is a
>>pic.scr file, which is apparently a script.
>>    
>>
>
>There is no reason to guess.  The .SCR suffix is the standard suffix for an
>Eagle script file.  Even a 2 second peek with a text editor would have made
>that clear.
>  
>
Apparently I have irritated you and if that is so, I apologise.

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Probably just a stupid rookie mistake on my part. Thank you for
generously posting your PIC library for the benefit of others.

 --Steve.


'[EE]: Eagle SMD resonator libraries?'
2006\01\07@145911 by Marc Nicholas
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Hey all,

If anyone has an Eagle library for a Panasonic or Murata SMD resonator in
the 20Mhz range that's stocked by Digikey...you'd be my new best fried ;-)

(I'm still learning Eagle and am a little unsure about building my own
library for an SMD part just yet :-( ).

-marc

2006\01\07@152037 by Kevin

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On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, Marc Nicholas wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> If anyone has an Eagle library for a Panasonic or Murata SMD resonator in
> the 20Mhz range that's stocked by Digikey...you'd be my new best fried ;-)
>
> (I'm still learning Eagle and am a little unsure about building my own
> library for an SMD part just yet :-( ).
>
> -marc

I would look for the package name and then search the eagle
libraries for it. I was able to find a package for an SMT
part in the libraies, of course it was after I created my
own :).

It's pretty easy to make your own if you follow the doc
located here

www.cadsoft.de/cgi-bin/download.pl?page=/home/cadsoft/
html_public/download.htm.en&dir=eagle/userfiles/doc

The doc is eagapp3.zip

Good Luck,
Kevin

2006\01\07@154817 by olin piclist

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Marc Nicholas wrote:
> If anyone has an Eagle library for a Panasonic or Murata SMD
> resonator in the 20Mhz range that's stocked by Digikey...you'd be my
> new best fried ;-)
>
> (I'm still learning Eagle and am a little unsure about building my own
> library for an SMD part just yet :-( ).

My library for crystals and related parts is attached.  It contains one type
of 3-pin resonator, but I'm not sure I've ever tested it.  Right now I can't
remember what I made that part for.


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2006\01\07@160839 by Marc Nicholas

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Thanks, Olin.

On the suggestion of another respondee, I've dived into the Eagle Library
Editor (had to sooner or later, I guess). I've just finsihed designing my
first part, so I guess I can likely do SMT resonator landings now and I'll
check out your library for clues.

-marc



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