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'Topic 0.1 released -- a free PIC assembler with so'
1994\08\25@072523 by crocontroller discussion list

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You can get topic-0.1.zip from ftp.funet.fi in the directory
/pub/microprocs/pic/topic. (If your filing system doesn't support
multiple dots in the filename, enter a command like "get topic-0.1.zip
topic01.zip" to store it with a different local filename).

Below I've included the short README file.

Enjoy!

-- vinsci

README:

This README file describes Topic release 0.1, an assembler for the PIC
microcontroller series.  The PIC is manufactured by Microchip Technlogy
Inc.

This assembler is published under the GNU General Public License in
the hope that others will use and benefit from this program as well as
contribute their own improvements and extensions for all of us to
share.

What it doesn't do (yet):

While I believe Topic does things the right way, it currently lacks
features that will hopefully be available in later versions.  Such as
pseudo instructions (easily added), macros (the code to insert macros
already exist and works), optional ",0" or ",1" as a second argument
(easiliy added), real expressions and operators (this is the biggest
drawback in this first release), conditional assembly (we need to see
if GASP, the Gnu ASsembler Preprocessor, suits our needs) etc.

What it does:

It does support symbols (any length symbol name), file inclusion, good
warning and error message capability (some of the messages in this
release are on the lighter side -- see the source in case you don't
understand a message).  It also supports a variety of ways to write
constants.  It writes a simple symbol table, reporting which symbols
were really used and which were not.  It writes an object file in the
same format as Microchip's MPALC assembler if the assembly was
successful, or none if not.  Topic doesn't crash your machine when it
doesn't see what it expected (unlike MPALC).

This software is pretty much experimental so far (it's less than a
week old, what do you expect?), but it is cleanly written.  There are
even a few comments.

Currently, it only supports the 12 bit variants of the PIC, but I've
designed the assembler so that it is very easy to extend it to the 14
bit core as well and make the choice while the assembler is running
(ie. using an assembler directive).  Some constants in the source now
make the assembler believe the memory size is 2048 instruction words
as for the PIC 16C57, which I work with, hmmm ;-), but all this is
very easily changed.

OK, how do I improve it and recompile it?

First get a standard C compiler.  I used the GNU C compiler GCC which
is available for free on the net and is a very good compiler and has
everything you need.
 For MSDOS systems, get the variant of GCC called DJGPP:

       File location:
           host:      omnigate.clarkson.edu
           login:     ftp
           password:  send your e-mail address
           directory: ~ftp/pub/msdos/djgpp

If you have a make utility, just CD into the Topic subdirectory and
type MAKE.  To compile by hand, give the command "gcc -o topic
topic.c".  Easy!  (If you're using DJGPP, you can now run the file
topic, which is still in unix format, with the command "go32 topic
source.asm" to assemble source.asm and produce source.obj.  You can
also create a normal executable with DJGPP, after that the command
would be "topic source.asm", as on a unix system.)
 Spots that could use some improvement are marked by the word fixme.

Are you improving the assembler?

Any improvements and/or bug fixes that are clean and well thought out
are welcome by e-mail at the address below.  Please use the DIFF
command "diff -c2 topic.c newtopic.c >diffs" to produce the diffs
file, and e-mail me that along with a description of the diff in
question.  Make separate diffs for changes/improvements that aren't
related and send them in separate e-mails.  All changes should follow
the GNU coding standards to reasonable extent to maintain readability.

Enjoy!  E-Mail: spam_OUTvinsciTakeThisOuTspamnic.funet.fi
       Mail:   Leonard Norrgard
               Skolhusgatan 32 A 14
               FIN-65100 VASA
       Phone:  +358-49-434808

-- vinsci

1994\08\25@074828 by crocontroller discussion list

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>
> You can get topic-0.1.zip from ftp.funet.fi in the directory
> /pub/microprocs/pic/topic. (If your filing system doesn't support
> multiple dots in the filename, enter a command like "get topic-0.1.zip
> topic01.zip" to store it with a different local filename).
>
> Below I've included the short README file.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> -- vinsci
>
Good!  I'm glad to see someone starting this!  I'm presently using the gnu
c compiler, and I'm pleased to see some software development for the pic's
following the same route.

What about a simulator?  It sure would be nice to have some control over
what a simulator can do.

Yours,

Derrick Early, the rookie

1994\08\25@080944 by crocontroller discussion list

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Damn, beaten by a couple of days... ;-)

I have also just finished an assembler for pics, just the
documentation and a bit more testing left to do before its released.
Compared to topic is has:

pros: macros, real expressions, conditional assembly, local variables
and labels, 12 and 14bit pics, a simple disassembler.

cons: own object file format (with conversion tools to and from
intel hex.) C format numbers (i.e. 0xff etc), and error handling
is "simplistic" and finally no clever name (topic, aspic) thought
up yet ;-)

I will try to get the docs done this weekend and put it up for ftp
next week.  It has been built under linux and gcc, but should work under
any unix or even dos (using djgpp).

=%-)

Ian

p.s. votes for next tool being taken, simulator or picstart code downloader.
p.p.s. does anyone know the format of the picstart download protocol or
e-mail address for someone at microchip who might know.

1994\08\26@082307 by crocontroller discussion list

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> Damn, beaten by a couple of days... ;-)
> I have also just finished an assembler for pics, just the
> documentation and a bit more testing left to do before its released.

Heh ;-) I skipped the docs part altogether, which probably saved a
couple of days...

> Compared to topic is has:
>
> pros: macros, real expressions, conditional assembly, local variables
> and labels, 12 and 14bit pics, a simple disassembler.

Sounds great!

> cons: own object file format (with conversion tools to and from
> intel hex.)

This is not necessarily a con; running those conversion tools
is anyway easiliy automated as needed.

> C format numbers (i.e. 0xff etc), and error handling
> is "simplistic" and finally no clever name (topic, aspic) thought
> up yet ;-)

Well, it seems a bit hotter than Topic, so maybe Tropic would be nice? ;-)

> Ian
>
> p.s. votes for next tool being taken, simulator or picstart code downloader.
> p.p.s. does anyone know the format of the picstart download protocol or
> e-mail address for someone at microchip who might know.

A picstart code downloader should be pretty easy and very desirable to
get out of the MSDOG/Windows dependance (I just hate to have to boot
my PC ten times a day whenever the system crashes; not that booting
takes such a long time but it interrupts my flow of thoughts).

For the simulator which I'm sure we'll build sooner or later, I've
been thinking of using the combination of C and Tcl/Tk (see
comp.lang.tcl).  Tcl is a rather nice library that would give the
simulator great scripting capabilities, while Tk is a GUI toolkit for
Tcl with the look and feel of Motif.  Tcl/Tk interfaces very well with
C allowing the simulator to be written partly in Tcl (faster to
edit/test/fix) and partly in C (faster final code); thus one can start
most of it off in Tcl and then code the timecritical parts in C
routines as needed.  Tk provides some nice features that are ideal for
a CPU simulator, or any program that needs to update screen data as
variables change.
 Tcl/Tk come with an X11 or BSD type public license and are available
under both Unix/X11 (Linux, for example) and MSDOS/Windows (for those
unfortunate of you ;-), so the simulator could be used by a large
number of people.

-- vinsci


'Freely-redistributable PIC assembler?'
1995\07\28@164635 by Bruce Perens
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Is there a freely-redistributable PIC assembler available in source form?
That 4-component 16C84 burner in "blowpic.zip" looks nice. I'm thinking about
including PIC software on my "Linux for Hams" CD-ROM. I'd have to re-write the
driver for Linux, but that doesn't look like a big deal.

A PIC emulator would be nice, too, but I guess that's asking too much.

       Thanks

       Bruce Perens

--
-- Attention Ham Radio Operators: For information on "Linux for Hams", read
-- the World Wide Web page http://www.hams.com/perens/LinuxForHams, or send
-- an e-mail message containing the word "help" to .....infoKILLspamspam@spam@hams.com .

1995\07\31@050237 by Adrian Godwin

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> Is there a freely-redistributable PIC assembler available in source form?
> That 4-component 16C84 burner in "blowpic.zip" looks nice. I'm thinking about
> including PIC software on my "Linux for Hams" CD-ROM. I'd have to re-write th
> e
> driver for Linux, but that doesn't look like a big deal.
>

'Pictools' by Ian King <iekspamKILLspamADVANCED-ROBOTICS-RESEARCH-CENTRE.SALFORD.AC.UK>,> is GNU licenced and developed under Linux. It's on ftp.funet.fi (I think
nic.funet.fi is a pseudonym .. that's where Archie finds it).

Host nic.funet.fi

   Location: /pub/microprocs/pic
     DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Dec  5 16:15  pictools
   Location: /pub/microprocs/pic/pictools
          FILE -rw-rw-r--       3461  Sep  7 1994  pictools.info
          FILE -rw-rw-r--      29534  Sep  7 1994  pictools01.tgz
          FILE -rw-rw-r--      30165  Sep 12 1994  pictools02.tgz
          FILE -rw-rw-r--      29180  Dec  1 13:12  pictools08.tgz


> A PIC emulator would be nice, too, but I guess that's asking too much.
>

There have been a couple of people talking about doing one - neither
is complete, but one of them (at least) was at alpha test stage. This
is by Dave Madden <
.....dhmKILLspamspam.....VHEISSU.NET.DCL.CO.JP>. Unfortunately, it needs
C++ and I haven't yet installed it so I can't try it out. I think he
put it on ftp.sics.se as 'picsim', but I've got a copy if you can't
find it.

The other was by R J GAUTIER <EraseMErjgspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTABER.AC.UK> - he has a simulator written
in Tcl/Tk that he was hoping to get modified for PIC by an MSc student.
I don't know what happened to this project.

-adrian


'Effective Spamming on the NET FREE GUIDE'
1995\08\09@003307 by allen
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ATTENTION ALL BUSINESS AND MARKETING PROFESSIONALS!

This is an attempt to make the internet more commercially profitable.

The following is a guide to "effective marketing" VIA the use of SPAMMING.
BTW ... THIS IS  A SPAM!  However, I have done lots of research on this
subject. The following information is a VERY worthwhile read!

I've been dumped off a number of other servers for spamming activity.  It's
no big deal, I just change service providers as needed. There are 1000's of
service providers out there, so the possibilities are endless!  However, at
the same time, I have made lot of $$ dollars e-mailing to 100,000's of
thousands of mail list subscribers.

I pulled ALL possible LISTS from the "tele.net-listserv-List of Views"( the
below Lists are all the listed ones currently available as of 7/20/95. New
lists are constantly being added.) I sent out "just one e-mail" with bcc to
all ALL lists. Don't send a separate e-mail to each mailing list, that
takes to much time! Just copy and paste the e-mail address for each and
THEN send. You want ALL lists to be spammed at one time. You want to be
able to COLLECT as many responses back from the subscribers before your
service provider shuts you down.

My e-mail message went out to over 1,466,296 subscribers.  It could have
been MUCH more than these figures, for I didn't stop to count how many
subscribers per list!  (The subscribers also tend to forward your message
to others if you request they do so in your spam.)

A suggested time to send out your huge spam is on a Sunday night at 2:00
am. The server is not very busy. Furthermore, the Syops are usually not
real awake on Monday Morning and are dealing with 100's of posting to their
mail list from the weekend. It really pays to make your Subj. Header
something that is "very generic". Many Syops just look at the Subj. header
and NOT the content before posting. When that happens ... You're in
business!

Examples of a good header would be: FYI, Good Information, Reply to
message, Coffee anyone? You get the idea I am sure. Just be creative and
stay away from headers that sound commercial.

NEWS GROUPS can be used in a similar fashion. I simply PULL the e-mail
addresses off the News Group and then, blind carbon copy, (spam) everyone
with just one e-mail. You can also "post" your message to the News Groups.
This also works but lacks the personal appeal of a direct e-mail campaign
to a mailing list.

Anyway, be prepared for Flames and Mail Bombs to both you and your Service
Provider.  I have found that the so called "voices from the net" is much
overrated. Most people pay no attention if they have no interest. However,
your SERVICE PROVIDER WILL react due to even the smallest amount of mail
bombs it receives. WHY you ask? The Service Provider gets real UPSET due to
the fact that mail bombs can overload and shut down their Server. This cost
them money by temporarily depriving ALL their customers access. That tends
to make them a LITTLE TESTY!

I actually have two Service Providers. One Provider is used for "*personal
normal" activity. The second provider is the one that is always changing.
It is best to keep the two totally separate ...  *personal Vs business.

For General Announcements like this one, an "anonymous server" is great!
However, you can't count on getting all your important replies back.  Many
of them will get lost on the way back to you due to the security features!
( a good anonymous provider is  anon.penet.fi  Just send e-mail requesting
information to daemonspamspam_OUTanon.penet.fi )

AOL, Compuserve, Prodigy and Delphi, ETC., don't have that problem because
of their large size capacity and are much slower to respond to 'NEW BEES"
who don't "know any better" Generally speaking it takes about 3 warnings
about spamming from a Service Provider to finally shut you down. You can in
many cases, PLEAD ignorance ... Oh REALLY,  SOB ... SOB ... I am terribly
sorry! I am new and I didn't know I couldn't do that ... SOB ... please
don't shut me off ... sort of dribble. Be creative!  That usually will keep
your server off your back ONE WEEK TO TEN DAYS to collect your responses
from the spam.

Again, if your going to spam ... do it BIG!!!  Little or BIG spam, the end
result is the same. Your service provider will tire of receiving the mail
bombs and eventually give you the Old Heave Ho!

One last helpful hint ... you can make your spamming last much longer with
your service provider if you take the time to post a question to the Mail
List that fits their subject matter and then add a PS., ... BTW, Do you
wanta buy something ... information.  However, I found this very time
consuming to post individually to 1000's of lists and far EASIER to just
change service providers. Keep in mind that you ARE going to be eventually
dumped off anyway ... so what's the difference?

The Direct Marketing Association says that you should average 1 or 2 %
response from a U S POSTAL mailing program. I have found that average is
right on the money with e-mailing! Depending of course on the product you
are offering. However, even if your response is only a 1/2 of1%. from
1,466.296 e-mails, that still is 7,330 prospective customers for your
product!

Gee whiz,  one more thing ... your Mail-LIST will say to you
" The Internet GOD'S have spoken. You are FOREVER BANNED from ever using
our Mail-LIST again"! They will put a block on your net address preventing
you access.  HOWEVER, each time you change Service Providers ... guess
what?  You have a NEW E-Mail Address! The Mail-LIST computer site is kinda
stupid and doesn't recognize that you're the same person. This also works
if you change Mail programs to the "same Service Provider". Remember, just
a slight change in your mail program will do the trick!  Example, just
change from Eudora to News Reader And AWAY YOU GO AGAIN!   Spamming away to
your hearts content to Fame and $$ FORTUNE!

The Net is totally unregulated  and governed by something called
"Netiquette".  However, you can within reason, disregard Netiquette because
of the constantly changing self imposed rules and Hypocrisy of most of the
users. If you don't believe this, just monitor some news groups and you
will see. Keep in mind that the internet community will strongly support
explicit sexual immorality, while a small vocal minority will object and
violently oppose an innocent commercial message. ... GO FIGURE!!

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments regarding the
above. I am very interested in your feed back!

BEST REGARDS AND SUCCESS IN YOUR VENTURES!
//
Find "tele.net-listserv-List of Views" Use your search engine to access
this list. The default "100's of Subscribers" will give you the best
results. However the following is provided for your immediate use. Updated
7/20/95.
//
The following represents 1,466.296 of subscribers. ( Yes, I did say
MILLION!) Just copy and paste into your e-mail program and AWAY you GO!

Now here is the catch ... You can spend the next 2 weeks down loading each
address at 28.800 baud, or I can send the ENTIRE list to you for $50.00.
No kidding!  The process of down loading each "send to the Group address
took me 2 weeks or about 60 hours using a high speed modem.  The follow is
a sample for you to test.  If you want the rest of the list; send $50.00
for my time to:

Jeff Slaton
6808 Truchas Dr NE
Albq.,  NM  87109

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'Effective Spamming on the NET FREE GUIDE (fwd)'
1995\08\09@140757 by Eric L. Singer

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This comes via another spammed list.  I suggest someone in New Mexico set
their fax modem to auto-dial him 24/7.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 11:13:39 -0500
From: James McCartney <spamBeGonejames@spam@spamASTRO.AS.UTEXAS.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list MAX <MAX%RemoveMEMCGILL1.BITNETEraseMEspamKILLspamACFcluster.NYU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Effective Spamming on the NET FREE GUIDE

Jeff Slaton in Alb. New Mexico is listed with the phone number:
505-822-8919
Have fun!

 --- james mccartney           spamBeGonejamesspam_OUTspamRemoveMEastro.as.utexas.edu

1995\08\09@165539 by PETE KLAMMER

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>
> This comes via another spammed list.  I suggest someone in New Mexico set
> their fax modem to auto-dial him 24/7.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 11:13:39 -0500
> From: James McCartney <.....jamesspamRemoveMEASTRO.AS.UTEXAS.EDU>
> To: Multiple recipients of list MAX <MAX%MCGILL1.BITNETspam@spam@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Effective Spamming on the NET FREE GUIDE
>
> Jeff Slaton in Alb. New Mexico is listed with the phone number:
> 505-822-8919
> Have fun!
>
>   --- james mccartney           EraseMEjamesRemoveMEspamSTOPspamastro.as.utexas.edu

This takes only a little bit of your time, and no money: call that number
COLLECT, and if he takes the call, explain briefly and politely what an
annoyance SPAM can be.  I've done this before, and (surprise) one time they
took the call and apologetically explained that someone else had posted on
their behalf, lawyers were involved, etc.  I thanked them for letting me
explain my annoyance.  I haven't gotten through in this case yet.  As I say,
it costs nothing to try, and if enough of us load up his phone ...

1995\08\10@021020 by Clyde Smith-Stubbs

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> > Jeff Slaton in Alb. New Mexico is listed with the phone number:
> > 505-822-8919

Here's another way a devious person might spam his phone number - call
one (or more) of the many faxback services and give his number to
send the fax to. He'll get three calls on his answering machine
before it gives up. For example, Intel has a faxback service on
1-800-525-3019 (in the USA). Of course I'm not suggesting you do this -
I imagine it could be construed as misuse of the phone system.

1995\08\10@033515 by Lee Jones

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>>> Jeff Slaton, Alb. New Mexico, listed with the phone number: 505-822-8919
>
> Here's another way a devious person might spam his phone number - call
> one (or more) of the many faxback services and give [Jeff's] number...

If one were to do this, one might want to know that some of the more
sophisticated faxback services use caller ID -- IBM's is an example.
They insert the phone number of the _requester_ (person placing the
order) into the facsimile which such a system then trys to transmit.
It's useful for interoffice routing purposes.  But in this case, it
might be something you'd want to avoid.

I'm not suggesting, nor recommending, nor endorsing any specific
action...  just passing on some information.
                                               Lee Jones

1995\08\10@051922 by Clyde Smith-Stubbs

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> If one were to do this, one might want to know that some of the more
> sophisticated faxback services use caller ID -- IBM's is an example.
> They insert the phone number of the _requester_ (person placing the
> order) into the facsimile which such a system then trys to transmit.

I suspect this won't be a problem if the call is placed from overseas.

--
Clyde Smith-Stubbs       | HI-TECH Software,       | Voice: +61 7 3300 5011
RemoveMEclydeKILLspamspamTakeThisOuThitech.com.au      | P.O. Box 103, Alderley, | Fax:   +61 7 3300 5246
                         | QLD, 4051, AUSTRALIA.   | BBS:   +61 7 3300 5235
                   HI-TECH C: Compiling the real world...

1995\08\10@100555 by Paul Christenson [N3EOP]

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Got some action on the recent spammer...  I sent three copies of his
spam; one to him (mailbox flood), postmaster at his site, and also
the administrative contact for his site.  This is easy enough to find;
whois can tell you.  (Try whois@site, if that doesn't work, telnet to
internic.net.)  The admin contact is who responded to me.

 - - The original note follows - -

From: spamBeGoneeddiespam@spam@compute.com (Eddie Milstein -Compute Intensive)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 13:56:17 -0700
To: "Paul Christenson [N3EOP]" <RemoveMEPJC130spam_OUTspamPSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Effective Spamming on the NET FREE GUIDE


His account is nuked and we are looking into
legal recourse since our contract is rather
firm on this issue..

Sorry and Thanks.


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1995\09\29@045720 by Joannie Chen
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===>> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 300+ Popular USA Titles

Hi fellow 'netters,

My name is Joannie Chen and I recently started using a magazine
subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription
deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them.
They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country
on a subscription basis.   As for computer magazines from the USA, they
more of a selection than I ever knew even existed.  They have magazines for
most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.

Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their
competitors and even the publishers themselves.  This is their price
guarantee.

Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half
of what the newstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines.  On some
titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newstands charge.  They
feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas.   In the USA, people
buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes
or hours.  They are so cheap in the USA!   Well, this company would like to
make it the same way for their overseas members.  They are also cheaper
than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the
publishers themselves!   This is their price guarantee.  Around one-half
their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new
members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language.

Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and
cut-out all the middlemen.


They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 500K-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form below.  It has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student.
I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my
part-time software business!  Email them directly at:
sanjeev2spamspamgrfn.org



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Name:
Internet email address:
Smail home address:
City-State-Zip:
Country:
Work Tel. #:
Work Fax #:
Home Tel. #:
Home Fax #:
Name of USA mags you currently get on the newstand or in the store:
Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail:
Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you:
Catalogue format desired from below 2 choices (list "1" or "2"):
(1. 19-part email message;    2.  atttached file by email)

{{{Note-  19-part email can be received by anyone with any computer.
Attached file format may not be for you:  it is sent as an uncompressed
500K file formatted in Microsoft World on a Mac;  if you don't use
Microsoft Word on a Mac - you will have to know how to convert into a
usable text format.  We cannot help you with this.   If in doubt, we
suggest you go with the universally acceptable 19-part email message.  You
can always manually spend a few minutes pasting the parts into one
whole.}}}

If you saw this on a newsgroup, which newsgroup did you see it on?:

How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of
the internet that you saw us mentioned in):   Joannie Chen
092995
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They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are
less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other
times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet.
They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it.

They have been very helpful and helped me change my address from the USA to
Finland and then back again when I moved last month.  They are very
knowledgeable about addressing mags worldwide.

They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from
a special list of over 300 popular titles published in the USA.   They will
give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them
to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular
USA titles they sell.

They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have
clients in around 35 or 36 countries now.  Outside the USA there is a
charge for foreign postage and handling (on both paid and freebie subs)
that varies from magazine to magazine.  I have found their staff to be very
friendly and courteous.  They even helped me with an address change when I
moved from one country to another.

The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members"
(even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase
automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts
as a new member.   When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls
you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes
he has one of his assistants call.  He is kind of quirky sometimes - he
insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I
sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!),  but you can place future
orders (after your first order) via E-mail.

He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know
just as much as he does about this magazine stuff.  If you live overseas,
he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he
still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long
distance rates are cheaper then.

He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing
members and he does virtually no advertising.  When I got set-up, they had
a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they
could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately
when you call. )  I think they are able to get back to prospective new
members  the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased
their staff.  I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above
form to them, that is the way to get started!

They will send you some FREE info. via E-mail (the short version (around
40K) of their catalogue, or if you request it the DELUXE LONG VERSION
(around 400K-big and juicey) !)...if you fill out the form near the top of
this message.

They then send you email  that outlines how his club works and the list of
free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what
he sells;  and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly,
no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and
answer all your questions.

Once you get in, you'll love them. I do.  For more info,  just fill out the
form near the top of this message and email it to:        sanjeev2spam_OUTspamgrfn.org


Sincerely,

Joannie Chen


ps.  please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net
who you think might be interested in it!  It is a great deal!  If you join
and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for
each new person you get to join after you join!


'===>> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 300+'
1995\10\07@022101 by Eastern Division
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Hi fellow 'netters,

My name is Samantha Jerrings and I recently started using a magazine
subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription
deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them.
They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country
on a subscription basis.   As for computer magazines from the USA, they
more of a selection than I ever knew even existed.  They have magazines for
most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.

At the bottom of this list is a list sampling of many of the titles that
they sell.  They can *all* be shipped to any country!

Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their
competitors and even the publishers themselves.  This is their price
guarantee.

Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half
of what the newstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines.  On some
titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newstands charge.  They
feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas.   In the USA, people
buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes
or hours.  They are so cheap in the USA!   Well, this company would like to
make it the same way for their overseas members.  They are also cheaper
than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the
publishers themselves!   This is their price guarantee.  Around one-half
their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new
members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language.

Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and
cut-out all the middlemen.


They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 500K-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form below.  It has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student.
I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my
part-time software business!  Email them directly at:       RemoveMEsusieKILLspamspam@spam@ixc.net



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REQUEST FOR MORE INFO:  please copy this section only and email to:
                                       susiespamBeGonespam.....ixc.net

Name:
Internet email address:
Smail home address:
City-State-Zip:
Country:
Work Tel. #:
Work Fax #:
Home Tel. #:
Home Fax #:
Name of USA mags you currently get on the newstand or in the store:
Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail:
Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you:
Catalogue format desired from below 2 choices (list "1" or "2"):
(1. 19-part email message;    2.  atttached file by email)

{{{Note-  19-part email can be received by anyone with any computer.
Attached file format may not be for you:  it is sent as an uncompressed
500K file formatted in Microsoft World on a Mac;  if you don't use
Microsoft Word on a Mac - you will have to know how to convert into a
usable text format.  We cannot help you with this.   If in doubt, we
suggest you go with the universally acceptable 19-part email message.  You
can always manually spend a few minutes pasting the parts into one
whole.}}}

How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of
the internet that you saw us mentioned in):   Samantha Jerrings
100795
*------------cut here-----------------------------------------------*



They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are
less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other
times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet.
They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it.

They have been very helpful and helped me change my address from the USA to
Finland and then back again when I moved last month.  They are very
knowledgeable about addressing mags worldwide.

They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from
a special list of over 300 popular titles published in the USA.   They will
give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them
to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular
USA titles they sell.

They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have
clients in around 35 or 36 countries now.  Outside the USA there is a
charge for foreign postage and handling (on both paid and freebie subs)
that varies from magazine to magazine.  I have found their staff to be very
friendly and courteous.  They even helped me with an address change when I
moved from one country to another.

The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members"
(even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase
automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts
as a new member.   When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls
you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes
he has one of his assistants call.  He is kind of quirky sometimes - he
insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I
sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!),  but you can place future
orders (after your first order) via E-mail.

He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know
just as much as he does about this magazine stuff.  If you live overseas,
he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he
still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long
distance rates are cheaper then.

He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing
members and he does virtually no advertising.  When I got set-up, they had
a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they
could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately
when you call. )  I think they are able to get back to prospective new
members  the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased
their staff.  I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above
form to them, that is the way to get started!

They will send you some FREE info. via E-mail (the short version (around
40K) of their catalogue, or if you request it the DELUXE LONG VERSION
(around 400K-big and juicey) !)...if you fill out the form near the top of
this message.

They then send you email  that outlines how his club works and the list of
free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what
he sells;  and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly,
no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and
answer all your questions.

Once you get in, you'll love them. I do.  For more info,  just fill out the
form near the top of this message and email it to:        KILLspamsusiespam.....ixc.net


Sincerely,

Samantha Jerrings


ps.  please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net
who you think might be interested in it!  It is a great deal!  If you join
and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for
each new person you get to join after you join!

pss.  Below is a list of some of the titles they have available for
shipment on a subscription basis to *all* countries:

The following is a complete list of all the titles we sell as of 9/10/94:
Note:  99% of them are available to *all* countries.

ACCENT
ACCENT ON LIVING
ACCESSORIES
ACTION COMICS
ACTION PURSUIT GAMES
ADIRONDACK LIFE
ADVENTURE WEST
ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN (COMIC)
ADVERTISING AGE
ADVOCATE
AFRICAN PROFILES INTERNATIONAL
AIR CLASSICS
AIR COMBAT
AIR FORCE TIMES
AIR & SPACE
ALASKA
ALASKA MEN
ALASKA OUTDOORS
ALBUQUERQUE MONTHLY
ALFRED HITCHCOCK MYSTERY
ALLURE
ALOHA
AMATEUR RADIO TECHNICAL JOURNAL
AMAZING SPIDERMAN (COMIC)
AMERCAN HEALTH
AMERICA'S CIVIL WAR
AMERICAN ARTIST
AMERICAN ASTROLOGY
AMERICAN BABY
AMERICAN BABY
AMERICAN  CAGE BIRD
AMERICAN COLLECTOR'S JOURNAL
AMERICAN COTTON GROWER
AMERICAN COWBOY
AMERICAN COWBOY
AMERICAN DEMOGRAPHICS
AMERICAN FORESTS
AMERICAN FRUIT GROWER
AMERICAN HANDGUNNER
AMERICAN HEALTH
AMERICAN HERITAGE (HARD COVER)
AMERICAN HERITAGE INVENTION & TECHNOLOGY
AMERICAN HERITAGE (SOFT COVER)
AMERICAN HISTORY ILLUSTRATED
AMERICAN JOURNAL OF MATERNAL / CHILD NURSING
AMERICAN JOURNAL OF NURSING
AMERICAN LIQUIDATION MONTHLY
AMERICAN PHOTO
AMERICAN SALON
AMERICAN SPECTATOR
AMERICAN SQUARE DANCE
AMERICAN VEGETABLE GROWER
AMERICAN VISIONS
AMERICAN WOODWORKER
AMERICANA
AMERICAS (ENGLISH)
AMERICAS (SPANISH)
AMIGA WORLD
ANALOG SCIENCE FICTION / FACT
ANTIQUE TRADER WEEKLY
ANTIQUES
ANTIQUING AMERICA
AQUARIUM FISH
ARCHAEOLOGY
ARCHITECTURAL DIGEST
ARCHITECTURE
ARIEL
ARMY TIMES
ART & ANTIQUES
ART & ANTIQUES INVESTMENT REPORT
ART IN AMERICA
ARTIST'S MAGAZINE
ARTNEWS
ARTS &  ACTIVITIES
ASIAN SOURCES (COMPUTER PRODUCTS)
ASIAN SOURCES (ELECTRONICS)
ASIAN SOURCES (GIFTS & HOME)
ASIAN SOURCES (HARDWARE)
ASIMOV'S SCIENCE FICTION
ASTROLOGY
ATLANTA
ATLANTA HOMES & LIFESTYLES
ATLANTIC MONTHLY
AUDIO
AUDIO / VIDEO INTERIORS
AUDUBON
AUTO RACING DIGEST
AUTOMOBILE
AUTOMOTIVE NEWS
AUTOMUNDO
AUTOTRONICS
AUTOWEEK
AVENGERS (COMIC)
AVENGERS WEST COAST (COMIC)
AVIATION HERITAGE
BACK STAGE
BACKPACKER
BACKSTRETCH
BALTIMORE
BANK NOTE REPORTER
BARBIE (COMIC)
BARBIE FASHION BOOK (COMIC)
BARBIE MAGAZINE
BARELY LEGAL
BARTER NEWS
BASEBALL CARD PRICE GUIDE
BASEBALL CARDS MAGAZINE
BASEBALL DIGEST
BASEBALL WEEKLY (USA TODAY)
BASKETBALL DIGEST
BASKETBALL WEEKLY
BASS PLAYER
BASS & WALLEYE BOATS
BASSIN'
BATMAN (COMIC)
BEAVIS & BUTTHEAD
BERKSHIRE
BEST RECIPES
BETTER HOMES & GARDENS
BEVERAGE WORLD
BEVERAGE WORLD
BIBLE REVIEW
BIBLICAL ARCHAEOLOGY REVIEW
BICYCLE GUIDE
BICYCLING
BIG BEAUTIFUL WOMAN (BBW)
BIRD TALK
BIRDER'S WORLD
BLACK AXE (COMIC)
BLACK BELT
BLACK COLLEGIAN
BLACK ELEGANCE
BLACK ENTERPRISE
BLOOD HORSE
BLUE & GOLD ILLUSTRATED
BOARDROOM REPORTS
BOATING
BOATING WORLD
BODY - MIND - SPIRIT
BON APPETIT
BOSTON MAGAZINE
BOTTOM LINE / PERSONAL
BOW & ARROW
BOW & ARROW HUNTING
BOW HUNTING WORLD
BOWHUNTER
BOWHUNTING
BOWHUNTING WORLD
BOWLING DIGEST
BOWMASTERS
BOXING ILLUSTRATED
BOY'S LIFE
BRIDAL GUIDE
BRIDES
BRITISH CAR
BRITISH HERITAGE
BROADCASTING
BUCKHUNTERS DIGEST
BUENHOGAR
BUSINESS PUBLISHING
BUSINESS START-UPS
BUSINESS WEEK
BUZZ (TALK OF LOS ANGELES)
BYTE
CABLE (COMIC)
CALIFORNIA JOURNAL
CAMCORDER
CAMERA & DARKROOM
CAMPUS LIFE
CANDY INDUSTRY
CANOE
CAPPER'S
CAPTAIN AMERICA (COMIC)
CAR AUDIO & ELECTRONICS
CAR COLLECTOR & CAR CLASSICS
CAR CRAFT
CAR & DRIVER
CAR STEREO REVIEW
CARAS DE PUERTO RICO
CARD COLLECTOR'S PRICE GUIDE
CARIBBEAN TRAVEL & LIFE
CARS & PARTS
CASH SAVER
CAT FANCY
CATALOG SHOPPING
CATHOLIC DIGEST
CATHOLIC FAMILY BIBLE
CATTLEMAN
CATWOMAN (COMIC)
CD REVIEW
CD-ROM TODAY
CD-ROM WORLD
CENTRAL FLORIDA CAREER GUIDE (W/UPDATES) CHAMPION CROSSWORD PUZZLES
CHAMPION VARIETY PUZZLES
CHAMPION VARIETY REVIEW
CHANGES
CHARISMA & CHRISTIAN LIFE
CHATELAINE (IN ENGLISH)
CHATELAINE (IN FRENCH)
CHESAPEAKE BAY
CHEVY HIGH PERFORMANCE
CHIC
CHICAGO
CHILD
CHILD LIFE
CHILDREN'S ALBUM
CHILDREN'S CLASSICS
CHILDREN'S DIGEST
CHILDREN'S PLAYMATE
CHOCOLATIER
CHRISTIAN HISTORY
CHRISTIAN PARENTING TODAY
CHRISTIAN READER
CHRISTIAN SCIENCE MONITOR
CHRISTIANITY TODAY
CIRCLE TRACK
CIRCUS
CIVIL WAR CHRONICLES
CIVIL WAR TIMES
CLASSIC AUTO RESTORER
CLEVELAND MAGAZINE
COACH
COIFFURE DE PARIS
COIN PRICES
COIN WORLD
COINAGE
COINS MAGAZINE
COLLECTOR EDITIONS
COLLECTORS MART
COLLECTORS NEWS
COLLECTORS NEWS
COLLEGE SPORTS
COLONIAL HOMES
COLORADO BUSINESS
COLORADO HOMES & LIFESTYLES
COLUMBIA JOURNALISM REVIEW
COMIC BOOK COLLECTOR
COMIC BOOK COLLECTOR'S PRICE GUIDE
COMIC SCENE
COMICS BUYERS GUIDE
COMICS SCENE
COMMON CAUSE
COMMONWEAL
COMPUTER GAME REVIEW & CD-ROM ENTERTAINMENT COMPUTER GAMING WORLD
COMPUTER LIFE
COMPUTER SHOPPER
COMPUTERWORLD
CONAN CLASSICS (COMIC)
CONAN SAGA (COMIC)
CONAN THE ADVENTURER (COMIC)
CONDE NASTE TRAVELER
*CONNECT-THE MODEM USERS RESOURCE*
CONSUMER REPORTS
CONSUMER REPORTS ON HEALTH
CONSUMER REPORTS TRAVEL LETTER
CONSUMER RESEARCH
CONSUMERS DIGEST
CONSUMERS RESEARCH
CONTEMPORARY CHRISTIAN MUSIC
COOK'S ILLUSTRATED
COOKBOOK DIGEST
COOKING LIGHT
CORVETTE FEVER
COSMOPOLITAN
COSMOPOLITAN EN ESPANOL
COUNTRY
COUNTRY ACCENTS
COUNTRY AMERICA
COUNTRY FEVER
COUNTRY GUIDE
COUNTRY HANDCRAFTS
COUNTRY HOME
COUNTRY HOME FOLK CRAFTS
COUNTRY JOURNAL
COUNTRY JOURNAL
COUNTRY LIVING
COUNTRY MUSIC
COUNTRY MUSIC CITY NEWS
COUNTRY SAMPLER
COUNTRY WOMAN
CQ RADIO AMATEURS JOURNAL
CRAFTING TODAY
CRAFTS
CRAFTS 'N THINGS
CRAFTWORKS FOR THE HOME
CRAIN'S NEW YORK BUSINESS
CRAYOLA KIDS
CREATIVE CLASSROOM
CREATIVE KIDS
CREATIVE QUILTING
CREATIVE REAL ESTATE
CREATIVE WOODWORKING & CRAFTS
CRICKET
CROCHET DIGEST
CROCHET FANTASY
CROCHET HOME
CROCHET WORLD
CROCHET WORLD SPECIALS
CROSS COUNTRY SKIER
CROSS STITCH
CROSS STITCH PLUS
CROSS STITCHER
CROSSSTITCH & COUNTRY CRAFTS
CRUISE TRAVEL
CRUISE TRAVEL
CRUISES & TOURS
CRUISING WORLD
CUSTOM & CLASSIC TRUCKS
CUSTOMER ASSURANCE REPORT
CUSTOMER SERVICE NEWSLETTER
CYCLE WORLD
DAILY NEWS RECORD
DANCE
DAREDEVIL (COMIC)
DARKHAWK (COMIC)
DAS LEBEN
DATA BASED ADVISOR
DAYTIME TV
DBMS (DATABASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS)
DEATH'S HEAD II (COMIC)
DEBATE ISSUES
DECORATING DIGEST
DECORATIVE ARTIST'S WORKBOOK
DECORATIVE ARTS PAINTING
DECORATVE WOODCRAFTS
DEER & DEER HUNTING
DEFENSE NEWS
DELAWARE TODAY
DELL CROSSWORD PUZZLES
DELL CROSSWORD SPECIAL
DELL CROSSWORDS & VARIETY PUZZLES
DELL HOROSCOPE
DELL LOGIC PUZZLES
DELL OFFICIAL CROSSWORD PUZZLES
DELL OFFICIAL PENCIL PUZZLE & WORD GAMES DELL OFFICIAL WORD SEARCH PUZZLES
DELL PENCIL PUZZLES & WORD GAMES
DELL POCKET CROSSWORD PUZZLES
DELL POCKET CROSSWORD PUZZLES
DELL WORD SEARCH PUZZLES
DES
DESKTOP VIDEO WORLD

1995\10\07@022101 by Eastern Division

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DESSERTS
DETAILS
DETECTIVE COMICS
DETROIT MONTHLY
DIRT BIKE
DISCIPLESHIP JOURNAL
DISCOUNT STORE NEWS
DISCOVER
DISCOVER DIVING
DISNEY ADVENTURES
DISNEY'S HOW IT WORKS
DISTRIBUTION CENTER MANAGEMENT
DOG FANCY
DOG WORLD
DOLL CASTLE NEWS
DOLL DESIGNS
DOLL LIFE
DOLL WORLD
DOLLMAKING
DOLLS
DOOM 2099 (COMIC)
DOWN EAST
DOWN MEMORY LANE
DOWNBEAT
DR. DOBB'S JOURNAL
DR. STRANGE (COMIC)
DRUG & COSMETIC INDUSTRY
EARLY AMERICAN LIFE
EARLY CHILDHOOD NEWS
EARLY CHILDHOOD TODAY
EARTH
EARTH JOURNAL
EASY FAST "N FUN CROSSWORDS
EATING WELL
EBONY
EBONY MAN (EM)
ECONOMIST
ECOTRAVELER
ELECTRONIC GAMES
ELECTRONIC GAMING MONTHLY
ELECTRONIC LEARNING
ELECTRONICS NOW
ELITE MAGAZINE
ELLE (AMERICAN)
ELLE DECOR
ELLERY QUEEN'S MYSTERY
ELLERY QUEEN'S MYSTERY
EM (EBONY MAN)
EMERGE
ENGINEERING NEWS RECORD (ENR)
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY (EW)
ENTREE
ENTREPRENEUR
ENVIRONMENT
EQUITIES
EQUUS
ESQUIRE
ESSENCE
EUROPEAN CAR
EXCALIBUR (COMIC)
EXCEPTIONAL PARENT
EXECUTIVE FEMALE
FAITH & STUFF
FAMILY CIRCLE
FAMILY HANDYMAN
FAMILY LIFE
FANCY FOOD & CANDY
FANGORIA
FANTASTIC FOUR (COMIC)
FANTASY & SCIENCE FICTION
FAR OUT
FARM BUILDING NEWS
FARM & RANCH LIVING
FARMERS DIGEST
FASHION GUIDE
FASHION KNITTING
FATE
FEDERAL TIMES
FEMALE BODYBUILDING
FIELD & STREAM
FIGHTING KNIVES
FIGHTING STARS NINJA MAGAZINE
FILM THREAT
FINANCIAL TIMES OF LONDON (MON - SAT)
FINANCIAL WORLD
FINE GARDENING
FINE HOMEBUILDING
FINE WOODWORKING
FIREHOUSE
FISHING FACTS
FISHING & HUNTING NEWS
FISHING WORLD
FIVE LITER MUSTANG
FLARE
FLASH (COMIC)
FLEX
FLOORING
FLORIDA LIVING
FLORIDA SPORTSMAN
FLORIDA TREND
FLORIDA VACATION RENTALS
FLOWER & GARDEN
FLY FISHERMAN
FLY FISHING
FLYING
FLYING MODELS
FOOD & WINE
FOOTBALL DIGEST
FOOTBALL NEWS
FORBES
FORCE WORKS (COMIC)
FOREIGN AFFAIRS
FOREIGN POLICY
FORTUNE
FORUM (PENTHOUSE)
FOUR WHEEL / OFF ROAD
FOUR WHEELER
FRONT PAGE DETECTIVE
FUN-ZONE
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FUTURIFIC
FUTURIFIC
G.I. JOE (COMIC)
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Hi fellow 'netters,

My name is Samantha Jerrings and I recently started using a magazine
subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription
deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them.
They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country
on a subscription basis.   As for computer magazines from the USA, they
more of a selection than I ever knew even existed.  They have magazines for
most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.

At the bottom of this list is a list sampling of many of the titles that
they sell.  They can *all* be shipped to any country!

Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their
competitors and even the publishers themselves.  This is their price
guarantee.

Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half
of what the newstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines.  On some
titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newstands charge.  They
feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas.   In the USA, people
buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes
or hours.  They are so cheap in the USA!   Well, this company would like to
make it the same way for their overseas members.  They are also cheaper
than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the
publishers themselves!   This is their price guarantee.  Around one-half
their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new
members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language.

Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and
cut-out all the middlemen.


They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 500K-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form below.  It has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student.
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Name:
Internet email address:
Smail home address:
City-State-Zip:
Country:
Work Tel. #:
Work Fax #:
Home Tel. #:
Home Fax #:
Name of USA mags you currently get on the newstand or in the store:
Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail:
Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you:
Catalogue format desired from below 2 choices (list "1" or "2"):
(1. 19-part email message;    2.  atttached file by email)

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How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of
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They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are
less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other
times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet.
They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it.

They have been very helpful and helped me change my address from the USA to
Finland and then back again when I moved last month.  They are very
knowledgeable about addressing mags worldwide.

They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from
a special list of over 300 popular titles published in the USA.   They will
give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them
to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular
USA titles they sell.

They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have
clients in around 35 or 36 countries now.  Outside the USA there is a
charge for foreign postage and handling (on both paid and freebie subs)
that varies from magazine to magazine.  I have found their staff to be very
friendly and courteous.  They even helped me with an address change when I
moved from one country to another.

The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members"
(even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase
automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts
as a new member.   When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls
you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes
he has one of his assistants call.  He is kind of quirky sometimes - he
insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I
sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!),  but you can place future
orders (after your first order) via E-mail.

He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know
just as much as he does about this magazine stuff.  If you live overseas,
he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he
still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long
distance rates are cheaper then.

He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing
members and he does virtually no advertising.  When I got set-up, they had
a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they
could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately
when you call. )  I think they are able to get back to prospective new
members  the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased
their staff.  I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above
form to them, that is the way to get started!

They will send you some FREE info. via E-mail (the short version (around
40K) of their catalogue, or if you request it the DELUXE LONG VERSION
(around 400K-big and juicey) !)...if you fill out the form near the top of
this message.

They then send you email  that outlines how his club works and the list of
free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what
he sells;  and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly,
no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and
answer all your questions.

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and does not automatically mail them out if certain conditions
are met.
This could be in operation within a matter of days, perhaps.

"It's justice, Jim, but not as we know it."
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to find who sent this stuff and used their address.

I think it is probably best to treat SPAMs like advertisments (commercials).
You can't stop them appearing, but you don't have to act on them.

I must say I got very angry with the recent SPAMs, but now I sympathise with
the sysops who get  100x more abuse than each list ever gets.

Andy
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'===>> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 300+'
1995\10\09@180911 by atcome.net Samantha Jerrings

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----> NOTE:  if you previously replied to this message, filling in the form
completely, and it has been more than 48 hrs. since you sent it in and
still have not received a reply, please reply again following the new
directions below.<-------

PLEASE READ THE BELOW MESSAGE FIRST, *BEFORE* FILLING OUT THIS FORM.

After reading the below message, here is the form to fill out, if you would
like more info, along with their FREE catalogue by email and the FREE
magazine subscription offer:

Please return the below section only and email back to me, simply by
replying directly to this message.  NOTE:  If you would rather do it the
hard way and to manually type out a new message, then you must include
*all* the addresses you see in the "from" field on this message in your
"to" field on the new message you create.  Also, you must duplicate the
below form, line for line, not omitting any info.


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                               REQUEST FOR MORE INFO
       (sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged)

Name:
Internet email address:
Smail home address:
City-State-Zip:
Country:
Work Tel. #:
Work Fax #:
Home Tel. #:
Home Fax #:
Name of USA mags you currently get on the newstand or in the store:
Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail:
Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you:
Catalogue format desired from below 2 choices (list "1" or "2"):
(1. 19-part email message;    2.  atttached file by email)

How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of
the internet that you saw us mentioned in):   Samantha Jerrings
100995
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Attached file format may not be for you:  it is sent as an uncompressed
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usable text format.  We cannot help you with this.   If in doubt, we
suggest you go with the universally acceptable 19-part email message.  You
can always manually spend a few minutes pasting the parts into one
whole.}}}


HERE IS WHAT ALL THE EXCITEMENT IS ALL ABOUT!!!...

Hi fellow 'netters,

My name is Samantha Jerrings and I recently started using a magazine
subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription
deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them.
They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country
on a subscription basis.   As for computer magazines from the USA, they
more of a selection than I ever knew even existed.  They have magazines for
most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.

At the bottom of this list is a list sampling of many of the titles that
they sell.  They can *all* be shipped to any country!

Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their
competitors and even the publishers themselves.  This is their price
guarantee.

Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half
of what the newstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines.  On some
titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newstands charge.  They
feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas.   In the USA, people
buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes
or hours.  They are so cheap in the USA!   Well, this company would like to
make it the same way for their overseas members.  They are also cheaper
than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the
publishers themselves!   This is their price guarantee.  Around one-half
their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new
members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language.

Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and
cut-out all the middlemen.


They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 500K-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form below.  It has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.


TO RECEIVE A RESPONSE.........

1. Fill out the above form *completely* and return only the form, not this
entire message.     If you do not know how to cut and paste text within
your email program, then please see #4 below.

2. do not return the form as an attachement, it must be within the text of
your email message.

3. to ensure that you send it back to the proper addresses, simply reply to
this message.  Do not change the "to" field.  Just leave our several
addresses there.  This will assure that your message reaches us if one of
our mailboxes gets full.

4. NOTE:  If you would rather do it the hard way and to manually type out a
new message, then you must include *all* the addresses you see in the
"from" field on this message in your "to" field on the new message you send
to me.  Also, you must duplicate the above form, line for line, not
omitting any info.


They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are
less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other
times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet.
They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it.

They have been very helpful and helped me change my address from the USA to
Finland and then back again when I moved last month.  They are very
knowledgeable about addressing mags worldwide.

They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from
a special list of over 300 popular titles published in the USA.   They will
give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them
to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular
USA titles they sell.

They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have
clients in around 35 or 36 countries now.  Outside the USA there is a
charge for foreign postage and handling (on both paid and freebie subs)
that varies from magazine to magazine.  I have found their staff to be very
friendly and courteous.  They even helped me with an address change when I
moved from one country to another.

The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members"
(even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase
automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts
as a new member.   When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls
you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes
he has one of his assistants call.  He is kind of quirky sometimes - he
insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I
sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!),  but you can place future
orders (after your first order) via E-mail.

He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know
just as much as he does about this magazine stuff.  If you live overseas,
he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he
still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long
distance rates are cheaper then.

He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing
members and he does virtually no advertising.  When I got set-up, they had
a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they
could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately
when you call. )  I think they are able to get back to prospective new
members  the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased
their staff.  I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above
form to them, that is the way to get started!

They will send you some FREE info. via E-mail (the short version (around
40K) of their catalogue, or if you request it the DELUXE LONG VERSION
(around 400K-big and juicey) !)...if you fill out the form near the top of
this message.

They then send you email  that outlines how his club works and the list of
free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what
he sells;  and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly,
no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and
answer all your questions.

Once you get in, you'll love them. I do.  For more info,  just fill out the
form near the top of this message and reply to this message, at my
addresses, which automatically come up when you reply directly from this
message.


Sincerely,

Samantha Jerrings


ps.  please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net
who you think might be interested in it!  It is a great deal!  If you join
and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for
each new person you get to join after you join!

pss.  Below is a list of some of the titles they have available for
shipment on a subscription basis to *all* countries:

The following is a complete list of all the titles they sell as of 9/10/94:
Note:  99% of them are available to *all* countries.

ACCENT
ACCENT ON LIVING
ACCESSORIES
ACTION COMICS
ACTION PURSUIT GAMES
ADIRONDACK LIFE
ADVENTURE WEST
ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN (COMIC)
ADVERTISING AGE
ADVOCATE
AFRICAN PROFILES INTERNATIONAL
AIR CLASSICS
AIR COMBAT
AIR FORCE TIMES
AIR & SPACE
ALASKA
ALASKA MEN
ALASKA OUTDOORS
ALBUQUERQUE MONTHLY
ALFRED HITCHCOCK MYSTERY
ALLURE
ALOHA
AMATEUR RADIO TECHNICAL JOURNAL
AMAZING SPIDERMAN (COMIC)
AMERCAN HEALTH
AMERICA'S CIVIL WAR
AMERICAN ARTIST
AMERICAN ASTROLOGY
AMERICAN BABY
AMERICAN BABY
AMERICAN  CAGE BIRD
AMERICAN COLLECTOR'S JOURNAL
AMERICAN COTTON GROWER
AMERICAN COWBOY
AMERICAN COWBOY
AMERICAN DEMOGRAPHICS
AMERICAN FORESTS
AMERICAN FRUIT GROWER
AMERICAN HANDGUNNER
AMERICAN HEALTH
AMERICAN HERITAGE (HARD COVER)
AMERICAN HERITAGE INVENTION & TECHNOLOGY
AMERICAN HERITAGE (SOFT COVER)
AMERICAN HISTORY ILLUSTRATED
AMERICAN JOURNAL OF MATERNAL / CHILD NURSING
AMERICAN JOURNAL OF NURSING
AMERICAN LIQUIDATION MONTHLY
AMERICAN PHOTO
AMERICAN SALON
AMERICAN SPECTATOR
AMERICAN SQUARE DANCE
AMERICAN VEGETABLE GROWER
AMERICAN VISIONS
AMERICAN WOODWORKER
AMERICANA
AMERICAS (ENGLISH)
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AMIGA WORLD
ANALOG SCIENCE FICTION / FACT
ANTIQUE TRADER WEEKLY
ANTIQUES
ANTIQUING AMERICA
AQUARIUM FISH
ARCHAEOLOGY
ARCHITECTURAL DIGEST
ARCHITECTURE
ARIEL
ARMY TIMES
ART & ANTIQUES
ART & ANTIQUES INVESTMENT REPORT
ART IN AMERICA
ARTIST'S MAGAZINE
ARTNEWS
ARTS &  ACTIVITIES
ASIAN SOURCES (COMPUTER PRODUCTS)
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ASIAN SOURCES (HARDWARE)
ASIMOV'S SCIENCE FICTION
ASTROLOGY
ATLANTA
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ATLANTIC MONTHLY
AUDIO
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AUDUBON
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AUTOMUNDO
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AUTOWEEK
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AVIATION HERITAGE
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BACKSTRETCH
BALTIMORE
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BARBIE MAGAZINE
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BASSIN'
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BLACK BELT
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BLACK ELEGANCE
BLACK ENTERPRISE
BLOOD HORSE
BLUE & GOLD ILLUSTRATED
BOARDROOM REPORTS
BOATING
BOATING WORLD
BODY - MIND - SPIRIT
BON APPETIT
BOSTON MAGAZINE
BOTTOM LINE / PERSONAL
BOW & ARROW
BOW & ARROW HUNTING
BOW HUNTING WORLD
BOWHUNTER
BOWHUNTING
BOWHUNTING WORLD
BOWLING DIGEST
BOWMASTERS
BOXING ILLUSTRATED
BOY'S LIFE
BRIDAL GUIDE
BRIDES
BRITISH CAR
BRITISH HERITAGE
BROADCASTING
BUCKHUNTERS DIGEST
BUENHOGAR
BUSINESS PUBLISHING
BUSINESS START-UPS
BUSINESS WEEK
BUZZ (TALK OF LOS ANGELES)
BYTE
CABLE (COMIC)
CALIFORNIA JOURNAL
CAMCORDER
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CANDY INDUSTRY
CANOE
CAPPER'S
CAPTAIN AMERICA (COMIC)
CAR AUDIO & ELECTRONICS
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CAR CRAFT
CAR & DRIVER
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CARAS DE PUERTO RICO
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CARS & PARTS
CASH SAVER
CAT FANCY
CATALOG SHOPPING
CATHOLIC DIGEST
CATHOLIC FAMILY BIBLE
CATTLEMAN
CATWOMAN (COMIC)
CD REVIEW
CD-ROM TODAY
CD-ROM WORLD
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CHAMPION VARIETY PUZZLES
CHAMPION VARIETY REVIEW
CHANGES
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CHATELAINE (IN ENGLISH)
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CHESAPEAKE BAY
CHEVY HIGH PERFORMANCE
CHIC
CHICAGO
CHILD
CHILD LIFE
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CHOCOLATIER
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CHRISTIAN READER
CHRISTIAN SCIENCE MONITOR
CHRISTIANITY TODAY
CIRCLE TRACK
CIRCUS
CIVIL WAR CHRONICLES
CIVIL WAR TIMES
CLASSIC AUTO RESTORER
CLEVELAND MAGAZINE
COACH
COIFFURE DE PARIS
COIN PRICES
COIN WORLD
COINAGE
COINS MAGAZINE
COLLECTOR EDITIONS
COLLECTORS MART
COLLECTORS NEWS
COLLECTORS NEWS
COLLEGE SPORTS
COLONIAL HOMES
COLORADO BUSINESS
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COLUMBIA JOURNALISM REVIEW
COMIC BOOK COLLECTOR
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COMIC SCENE
COMICS BUYERS GUIDE
COMICS SCENE
COMMON CAUSE
COMMONWEAL
COMPUTER GAME REVIEW & CD-ROM ENTERTAINMENT COMPUTER GAMING WORLD
COMPUTER LIFE
COMPUTER SHOPPER
COMPUTERWORLD
CONAN CLASSICS (COMIC)
CONAN SAGA (COMIC)
CONAN THE ADVENTURER (COMIC)
CONDE NASTE TRAVELER
*CONNECT-THE MODEM USERS RESOURCE*
CONSUMER REPORTS
CONSUMER REPORTS ON HEALTH
CONSUMER REPORTS TRAVEL LETTER
CONSUMER RESEARCH
CONSUMERS DIGEST
CONSUMERS RESEARCH
CONTEMPORARY CHRISTIAN MUSIC
COOK'S ILLUSTRATED
COOKBOOK DIGEST
COOKING LIGHT
CORVETTE FEVER
COSMOPOLITAN
COSMOPOLITAN EN ESPANOL
COUNTRY
COUNTRY ACCENTS
COUNTRY AMERICA
COUNTRY FEVER
COUNTRY GUIDE
COUNTRY HANDCRAFTS
COUNTRY HOME
COUNTRY HOME FOLK CRAFTS
COUNTRY JOURNAL
COUNTRY JOURNAL
COUNTRY LIVING
COUNTRY MUSIC
COUNTRY MUSIC CITY NEWS
COUNTRY SAMPLER
COUNTRY WOMAN
CQ RADIO AMATEURS JOURNAL
CRAFTING TODAY
CRAFTS
CRAFTS 'N THINGS
CRAFTWORKS FOR THE HOME
CRAIN'S NEW YORK BUSINESS
CRAYOLA KIDS
CREATIVE CLASSROOM
CREATIVE KIDS
CREATIVE QUILTING
CREATIVE REAL ESTATE
CREATIVE WOODWORKING & CRAFTS
CRICKET
CROCHET DIGEST
CROCHET FANTASY
CROCHET HOME
CROCHET WORLD
CROCHET WORLD SPECIALS
CROSS COUNTRY SKIER
CROSS STITCH
CROSS STITCH PLUS
CROSS STITCHER

1995\10\09@180911 by atcome.net Samantha Jerrings

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CRUISE TRAVEL
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CUSTOMER ASSURANCE REPORT
CUSTOMER SERVICE NEWSLETTER
CYCLE WORLD
DAILY NEWS RECORD
DANCE
DAREDEVIL (COMIC)
DARKHAWK (COMIC)
DAS LEBEN
DATA BASED ADVISOR
DAYTIME TV
DBMS (DATABASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS)
DEATH'S HEAD II (COMIC)
DEBATE ISSUES
DECORATING DIGEST
DECORATIVE ARTIST'S WORKBOOK
DECORATIVE ARTS PAINTING
DECORATVE WOODCRAFTS
DEER & DEER HUNTING
DEFENSE NEWS
DELAWARE TODAY
DELL CROSSWORD PUZZLES
DELL CROSSWORD SPECIAL
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DELL HOROSCOPE
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DELL OFFICIAL CROSSWORD PUZZLES
DELL OFFICIAL PENCIL PUZZLE & WORD GAMES DELL OFFICIAL WORD SEARCH PUZZLES
DELL PENCIL PUZZLES & WORD GAMES
DELL POCKET CROSSWORD PUZZLES
DELL POCKET CROSSWORD PUZZLES
DELL WORD SEARCH PUZZLES
DES
DESKTOP VIDEO WORLD
DESSERTS
DETAILS
DETECTIVE COMICS
DETROIT MONTHLY
DIRT BIKE
DISCIPLESHIP JOURNAL
DISCOUNT STORE NEWS
DISCOVER
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>I think it is probably best to treat SPAMs like advertisments (commercials).
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>I must say I got very angry with the recent SPAMs, but now I sympathise with
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True. And I also see it as part of the price we pay for freedom on the
internet. If we turn to a sensor to protect us from spammers, next it may be
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'*new* reply info: ===>> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub se'
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----> NOTE:  if you previously replied via email to this message, filling
in the form completely, and it has been more than 48 hrs. since you sent it
in and still have not received a reply, please reply again, to the FAX OR
SMAIL ADDRESS shown below.  They will then send you their FREE catalogue by
email, along with complete info on how their club works.  They are very
sorry if you have not yet received a reply and would appreciate your
sending it again to their fax or smail address.  Thank you. <-----



Hi fellow 'netters,

My name is Janet Dove and I recently started using a magazine subscription
club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your
first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them.    They have over
1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a
subscription basis.   As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of
a selection than I ever knew even existed.  They have magazines for most
every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.

Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their
competitors and even the publishers themselves.  This is their price
guarantee.

Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half
of what the newstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines.  On some
titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newstands charge.  They
feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas.   In the USA, people
buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes
or hours.  They are so cheap in the USA!   Well, this company would like to
make it the same way for their overseas members.  They are also cheaper
than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the
publishers themselves!   This is their price guarantee.  Around one-half
their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new
members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language.

Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and
cut-out all the middlemen.

(More info follows below the "Request for more info form" below.)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form below.  It has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student.
I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my
part-time software business!  Please fill out the below form and fax it to
them in the USA at
                   718-967-1144 (24 hrs. per day, 7 days a week),
or smail it to them at the following address:
                                      Magazine Club Inquiry Center
                                      Att. Internet services dept.
                                      PO Box 120990
                                      Staten Island NY  10312-0990

NOTE:  for the fastest reply, please fax in the below form.  If you do not
have access to a fax at work or at home, then please send it in by smail
(airmail).  They will email you their FREE catalogue and complete info on
how their club works within 1 business day of receiving your form.
Replying does not mean you are committed to joining, only that you
are seriously interested in receiving more info by email and then have a
quick friendly, no obligation phone call made to you to answer your
questions and explain how they work.

If you do not have a printer on your computer, you may type out the below
form, as long as you match all the text, line for line, letter for letter.
All forms must be computer printed or type-written.  They cannot process
any handwritten documents.

Step 1:  fax or smail in the below form.
Step 2:  receive by email their full catalogue and info kit.
Step 3.  receive a phone call so that they can answer your
            questions and you can find out a little about each other.
Step 4: you join them by making a first purchase when they call, you
            also get to choose a free sub with your first order.
            From that point forward, for your *next* orders you can
            order via phone or email, whichever is more convenient for
            you, as one of their existing members' privileges.  All address
            changes and other customer service items can be initiated by you
            by email or phone, whichever is most convenient.  They respond to
            all email within 1 business day of receipt.
Step 5: all orders are acknowledged by formal computer printout/receipt
            by airmail (overseas) /first class mail (USA).


*------------cut here-----------------------------------------------*
REQUEST FOR MORE INFO:  please return only this section via fax to:
                             718-967-1144 in the USA
or via smail (airmail) to:          Magazine Club Inquiry Center
                                              Att. Internet services dept.
                                              PO Box 120990
                                              Staten Island NY  10312-0990

Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged.  If you do not
have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you
until you do have one.  If you saw this message, then you should have one.  :)

Name:
Internet email address:
Smail home address:
City-State-Zip:
Country:
Work Tel. #:
Work Fax #:
Home Tel. #:
Home Fax #:
Name of USA mags you currently get on the newstand or in the store:
Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail:
Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when they call you:
Catalogue format desired from below 2 choices (list "1" or "2"):
  (1. 19-part email message;    2.  atttached file by email)

{{{Note-  19-part email can be received by anyone with any computer.
Attached file format may not be for you:  it is sent as an uncompressed
525K file formatted in Microsoft World on a Mac;  if you don't use
Microsoft Word on a Mac - you will have to know how to convert into a
usable text format.  They cannot help you with this.   If in doubt, they
suggest you go with the universally acceptable 19-part email message.  You
can always manually spend a few minutes pasting the parts into one
whole.}}}

How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of
the internet that you saw us mentioned in):   Janet Dove's referral
101095
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They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are
less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other
times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet.
They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it.

They have been very helpful and helped me change my address from the USA to
Finland and then back again when I moved last month.  They are very
knowledgeable about addressing mags worldwide.

They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from
a special list of over 300 popular titles published in the USA.   They will
give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them
to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular
USA titles they sell.

They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have
clients in around 35 or 36 countries now.  Outside the USA there is a
charge for foreign postage and handling (on both paid and freebie subs)
that varies from magazine to magazine.  I have found their staff to be very
friendly and courteous.  They even helped me with an address change when I
moved from one country to another.

The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members"
(even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase
automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts
as a new member.   When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls
you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes
he has one of his assistants call.  He is kind of quirky sometimes - he
insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I
sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!),  but you can place future
orders (after your first order) via E-mail.

He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know
just as much as he does about this magazine stuff.  If you live overseas,
he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he
still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long
distance rates are cheaper then.

He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing
members and he does virtually no advertising.  When I got set-up, they had
a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they
could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately
when you call. )  I think they are able to get back to prospective new
members  the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased
their staff.  I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above
form to them, that is the way to get started!

They will send you some FREE info. via E-mail (the short version (around
40K) of their catalogue, or if you request it the DELUXE LONG VERSION
(around 400K-big and juicey) !)...if you fill out the form near the top of
this message.

They then send you email  that outlines how his club works and the list of
free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what
he sells;  and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly,
no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and
answer all your questions.

Once you get in, you'll love them. I do.  For more info, please fill out
the above form and fax it to them in the USA at
                   718-967-1144 (24 hrs. per day, 7 days a week),
or smail it to them at the following address:
                                      Magazine Club Inquiry Center
                                      Att. Internet services dept.
                                      PO Box 120990
                                      Staten Island NY  10312-0990


Sincerely,

Janet Dove


ps.  please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net
who you think might be interested in it!  It is a great deal!  If you join
and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for
each new person you get to join after you join!     Please make sure to
mention my name when you join.   I will get a free magazine for a year for
referring you.
Thanks.

Here are just some of the titles that they carry............ 99% are
available outside the USA to *all* countries.  They can make special
shipping arrangements for adult magazines to countries in Asia where they
are normally very difficult to obtain.

ACCENT
ACCENT ON LIVING
ACCESSORIES
ACTION COMICS
ACTION PURSUIT GAMES
ADIRONDACK LIFE
ADVENTURE WEST
ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN (COMIC)
ADVERTISING AGE
ADVOCATE
AFRICAN PROFILES INTERNATIONAL
AIR CLASSICS
AIR COMBAT
AIR FORCE TIMES
AIR & SPACE
ALASKA
ALASKA MEN
ALASKA OUTDOORS
ALBUQUERQUE MONTHLY
ALFRED HITCHCOCK MYSTERY
ALLURE
ALOHA
AMATEUR RADIO TECHNICAL JOURNAL
AMAZING SPIDERMAN (COMIC)
AMERCAN HEALTH
AMERICA'S CIVIL WAR
AMERICAN ARTIST
AMERICAN ASTROLOGY
AMERICAN BABY
AMERICAN BABY
AMERICAN  CAGE BIRD
AMERICAN COLLECTOR'S JOURNAL
AMERICAN COTTON GROWER
AMERICAN COWBOY
AMERICAN COWBOY
AMERICAN DEMOGRAPHICS
AMERICAN FORESTS
AMERICAN FRUIT GROWER
AMERICAN HANDGUNNER
AMERICAN HEALTH
AMERICAN HERITAGE (HARD COVER)
AMERICAN HERITAGE INVENTION & TECHNOLOGY
AMERICAN HERITAGE (SOFT COVER)
AMERICAN HISTORY ILLUSTRATED
AMERICAN JOURNAL OF MATERNAL / CHILD NURSING
AMERICAN JOURNAL OF NURSING
AMERICAN LIQUIDATION MONTHLY
AMERICAN PHOTO
AMERICAN SALON
AMERICAN SPECTATOR
AMERICAN SQUARE DANCE
AMERICAN VEGETABLE GROWER
AMERICAN VISIONS
AMERICAN WOODWORKER
AMERICANA
AMERICAS (ENGLISH)
AMERICAS (SPANISH)
AMIGA WORLD
ANALOG SCIENCE FICTION / FACT
ANTIQUE TRADER WEEKLY
ANTIQUES
ANTIQUING AMERICA
AQUARIUM FISH
ARCHAEOLOGY
ARCHITECTURAL DIGEST
ARCHITECTURE
ARIEL
ARMY TIMES
ART & ANTIQUES
ART & ANTIQUES INVESTMENT REPORT
ART IN AMERICA
ARTIST'S MAGAZINE
ARTNEWS
ARTS &  ACTIVITIES
ASIAN SOURCES (COMPUTER PRODUCTS)
ASIAN SOURCES (ELECTRONICS)
ASIAN SOURCES (GIFTS & HOME)
ASIAN SOURCES (HARDWARE)
ASIMOV'S SCIENCE FICTION
ASTROLOGY
ATLANTA
ATLANTA HOMES & LIFESTYLES
ATLANTIC MONTHLY
AUDIO
AUDIO / VIDEO INTERIORS
AUDUBON
AUTO RACING DIGEST
AUTOMOBILE
AUTOMOTIVE NEWS
AUTOMUNDO
AUTOTRONICS
AUTOWEEK
AVENGERS (COMIC)
AVENGERS WEST COAST (COMIC)
AVIATION HERITAGE
BACK STAGE
BACKPACKER
BACKSTRETCH
BALTIMORE
BANK NOTE REPORTER
BARBIE (COMIC)
BARBIE FASHION BOOK (COMIC)
BARBIE MAGAZINE
BARELY LEGAL
BARTER NEWS
BASEBALL CARD PRICE GUIDE
BASEBALL CARDS MAGAZINE
BASEBALL DIGEST
BASEBALL WEEKLY (USA TODAY)
BASKETBALL DIGEST
BASKETBALL WEEKLY
BASS PLAYER
BASS & WALLEYE BOATS
BASSIN'
BATMAN (COMIC)
BEAVIS & BUTTHEAD
BERKSHIRE
BEST RECIPES
BETTER HOMES & GARDENS
BEVERAGE WORLD
BEVERAGE WORLD
BIBLE REVIEW
BIBLICAL ARCHAEOLOGY REVIEW
BICYCLE GUIDE
BICYCLING
BIG BEAUTIFUL WOMAN (BBW)
BIRD TALK
BIRDER'S WORLD
BLACK AXE (COMIC)
BLACK BELT
BLACK COLLEGIAN
BLACK ELEGANCE
BLACK ENTERPRISE
BLOOD HORSE
BLUE & GOLD ILLUSTRATED
BOARDROOM REPORTS
BOATING
BOATING WORLD
BODY - MIND - SPIRIT
BON APPETIT
BOSTON MAGAZINE
BOTTOM LINE / PERSONAL
BOW & ARROW
BOW & ARROW HUNTING
BOW HUNTING WORLD
BOWHUNTER
BOWHUNTING
BOWHUNTING WORLD
BOWLING DIGEST
BOWMASTERS
BOXING ILLUSTRATED
BOY'S LIFE
BRIDAL GUIDE
BRIDES
BRITISH CAR
BRITISH HERITAGE
BROADCASTING
BUCKHUNTERS DIGEST
BUENHOGAR
BUSINESS PUBLISHING
BUSINESS START-UPS
BUSINESS WEEK
BUZZ (TALK OF LOS ANGELES)
BYTE
CABLE (COMIC)
CALIFORNIA JOURNAL
CAMCORDER
CAMERA & DARKROOM
CAMPUS LIFE
CANDY INDUSTRY
CANOE
CAPPER'S
CAPTAIN AMERICA (COMIC)
CAR AUDIO & ELECTRONICS
CAR COLLECTOR & CAR CLASSICS
CAR CRAFT
CAR & DRIVER
CAR STEREO REVIEW
CARAS DE PUERTO RICO
CARD COLLECTOR'S PRICE GUIDE
CARIBBEAN TRAVEL & LIFE
CARS & PARTS
CASH SAVER
CAT FANCY
CATALOG SHOPPING
CATHOLIC DIGEST
CATHOLIC FAMILY BIBLE
CATTLEMAN
CATWOMAN (COMIC)
CD REVIEW
CD-ROM TODAY
CD-ROM WORLD
CENTRAL FLORIDA CAREER GUIDE (W/UPDATES) CHAMPION CROSSWORD PUZZLES
CHAMPION VARIETY PUZZLES
CHAMPION VARIETY REVIEW
CHANGES
CHARISMA & CHRISTIAN LIFE
CHATELAINE (IN ENGLISH)
CHATELAINE (IN FRENCH)
CHESAPEAKE BAY
CHEVY HIGH PERFORMANCE
CHIC
CHICAGO
CHILD
CHILD LIFE
CHILDREN'S ALBUM
CHILDREN'S CLASSICS
CHILDREN'S DIGEST
CHILDREN'S PLAYMATE
CHOCOLATIER
CHRISTIAN HISTORY
CHRISTIAN PARENTING TODAY
CHRISTIAN READER
CHRISTIAN SCIENCE MONITOR
CHRISTIANITY TODAY
CIRCLE TRACK
CIRCUS
CIVIL WAR CHRONICLES
CIVIL WAR TIMES
CLASSIC AUTO RESTORER
CLEVELAND MAGAZINE
COACH
COIFFURE DE PARIS
COIN PRICES
COIN WORLD
COINAGE
COINS MAGAZINE
COLLECTOR EDITIONS
COLLECTORS MART
COLLECTORS NEWS
COLLECTORS NEWS
COLLEGE SPORTS
COLONIAL HOMES
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COLUMBIA JOURNALISM REVIEW
COMIC BOOK COLLECTOR
COMIC BOOK COLLECTOR'S PRICE GUIDE
COMIC SCENE
COMICS BUYERS GUIDE
COMICS SCENE
COMMON CAUSE
COMMONWEAL
COMPUTER GAME REVIEW & CD-ROM ENTERTAINMENT COMPUTER GAMING WORLD
COMPUTER LIFE
COMPUTER SHOPPER
COMPUTERWORLD
CONAN CLASSICS (COMIC)
CONAN SAGA (COMIC)
CONAN THE ADVENTURER (COMIC)

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ELITE MAGAZINE
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ELLERY QUEEN'S MYSTERY
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1995\10\11@080808 by Byron A Jeff

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OK. I've had it!
It's clear the spammers will continue to spam the list unless something
is done.

So I ask a few questions:

1) What hardware do we need to have a secure list? I can provide access to a
486 Linux box with 16Meg of RAM and a 340 Meg HD that's internet connected by
a T1 to the rest of the net.

2) What software would we need? Will MAJORDOMO do the job? Can it be configured
to limit posts to members of the list? Are the spammers members of the list.

I like the PIC list. But I'm tired of reading the spams and commentary about
the spams.

If we can't stop the spams with the mailing list then we need to consider
a newsgroup. The need for it is clear and while the spamming of course will
continue it can limited to threads that are easily ignored.

We need to do something. I'm willing to help.

BAJ

1995\10\11@151209 by Juan Jose Abba

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The idea of a newsgroup looks clever to me, considering the objective.
What will be the negative side??
JJA

{Quote hidden}

1995\10\11@191059 by Paul Christenson [N3EOP]

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>Please fill out the below form and fax it to
>them in the USA at
>                    718-967-1144 (24 hrs. per day, 7 days a week),

Is there anyone local to that number?  It might be interesting to do a
"loop fax" on that number... just to make sure that it DOES work 24/7!

(A "loop fax" is several sheets of paper taped into a continuous loop.
It runs for "a long time".)

1995\10\11@191923 by Paul Christenson [N3EOP]

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>1) What hardware do we need to have a secure list?

Basically, anything but a VM.  All of the current *NIX mailing list servers
will reject posts from nonsubscribers.  This list isn't all that busy;
anything more robust than a SLIP connection should be able to handle it.

1995\10\11@204844 by Paul Christenson [N3EOP]

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>The idea of a newsgroup looks clever to me, considering the objective.
>What will be the negative side??

They will spam the newsgroups just as they spam the lists.  Actually, the
lists are easier to protect... the software can compare the sender with
the subscriber list.

'FREE 1 yr. Spam Magazine'
1995\10\12@044454 by Erik Hermann

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That's enough !
I have to pay for every byte I receive.

Farewell Piclist.

You will never hear of my new Machine Independant Pic Programmer.


 - Erik

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'*Free* C compiler(s)???'
1995\11\07@134229 by Rick Miller
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Someone just told me that they'd seen a reference to a port of
"Small C" to comile for PIC microcontrollers...

Does anyone know of any *free* C compilers which can produce
PIC code?  Stuff for the PIC16C84 would be *ideal*.

Rick Miller, Design Engineer  (and local "Internet Guy")
Digalog Systems, Inc.         <rickspam_OUTspam@spam@digalogsys.com>
3180 S. 166th St.             <.....Rick.Millerspamspam.....Linux.org>
New Berlin, WI  53151  USA    +1 414 797 8000 x-228


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1995\11\07@140345 by Scott Stephens

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>Someone just told me that they'd seen a reference to a port of
>"Small C" to comile for PIC microcontrollers...
>...
>Does anyone know of any *free* C compilers which can produce
>PIC code?  Stuff for the PIC16C84 would be *ideal*.

I don't know where I got it, (one of the PIC ftp sites, probably). The file
name is PICCC.ZIP and the e-mail address to send the bug report to is John
Favata at favataKILLspamspamEraseMEcs.buffalo.edu. I havn't tried it yet, but it has a header
file for the C84. Let us know what you think.

'Free PIC16C84 C Compiler'
1995\11\07@163932 by Rick Miller

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Well, I checked out John Favata's free C compiler for the PIC16C84.
Now, I've got good news, so-so news, and bad news...

The good news is:
 o It's available in full C source.
 o It's a port of Small C, so it's well modularized.

The so-so news is:
 o It's only targeted towards the PIC16C84.

The bad news is:
 o It generates pseudo-8051 assembly code which (as far as I know)
   is only usable with the Parallax PIC16/17 assembler.  :-(

I don't have anything against Parallax, nor against their
(probably spiffy) assembler... except for the fact that I don't
have a copy.  It's not free, is it?  I certainly wouldn't want
to spend money on an assembler that's generally considered less
capable than the free one (MPASM, the *standard*) from Microchip.

Is there any way to convert Parallax-ish pseudo-8051 assembler
into standard (MPASM) code?  Does anyone know of any documentation
available which would help me re-code "pic_cc" to output normal
PIC16C84 instructions???

Rick Miller, Design Engineer  (and local "Internet Guy")
Digalog Systems, Inc.         <EraseMErick@spam@spam@spam@digalogsys.com>
3180 S. 166th St.             <@spam@Rick.MillerspamspamKILLspamLinux.org>
New Berlin, WI  53151  USA    +1 414 797 8000 x-228

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1995\11\07@164803 by Timothy McDonough DIAL UP1

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What site did you find the file at?

On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Rick Miller wrote:

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>
> Well, I checked out John Favata's free C compiler for the PIC16C84.
> Now, I've got good news, so-so news, and bad news...

1995\11\07@170302 by John Favata

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>> From: Rick Miller <spamBeGonerickRemoveMEspamEraseMEDIGALOGSYS.COM>
>
> Well, I checked out John Favata's free C compiler for the PIC16C84.
> Now, I've got good news, so-so news, and bad news...
>
> The good news is:
>   o It's available in full C source.
>   o It's a port of Small C, so it's well modularized.
>
> The so-so news is:
>   o It's only targeted towards the PIC16C84.
>
> The bad news is:
>   o It generates pseudo-8051 assembly code which (as far as I know)
>     is only usable with the Parallax PIC16/17 assembler.  :-(
>

It's worth exactly what you paid for it!    8-)

The PIC cc compiler was a pet project to convert Small C to
generate PIC code. It was targeted to PIC16C84 because
there was enough ram on chip to implement a small stack. Porting
the compiler to the 5X family may take a little more work because
of the limited stack depth and paging problems....

The compiler was posted as a starting point for people to hack
into whatever C compiler tool they need. As it is, it can be
converted to generate MPASM instructions easily.

I do pattern recognition research for a living, not compilers... 8-)

jf

1995\11\07@171129 by Rick Miller

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Sorry, I forgot to give the URL:

John Favata's port of Small C to (Parallax-style) PIC16C84 assembler:

       <ftp://ftp.cedar.buffalo.edu/pub/PIC/pic_cc.zip>

Strangely enough, it was also available on the Microchip ftp site...

Rick Miller, Design Engineer  (and local "Internet Guy")
Digalog Systems, Inc.         <RemoveMErickKILLspamspamRemoveMEdigalogsys.com>
3180 S. 166th St.             <TakeThisOuTRick.MillerspamLinux.org>
New Berlin, WI  53151  USA    +1 414 797 8000 x-228


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1995\11\07@173701 by Michael Robin

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Rick Miller wrote:

{Quote hidden}

Your right, MPASM is the standard.  However, some people like our cute, little
assembler.  It's available at ftp.parallaxinc.com/pub/parallax/pic_lite.zip.
This zipped file contains several files, including our PASM.EXE (16C5x) and
PASMX.EXE (16Cxx) assemblers at no charge.

               Michael J. Robin

'BREATHTAKING COMPENSATION WITH UNLIMITED FREE TRAV'
1995\11\11@224908 by sureshot

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BREATHTAKING COMPENSATION WITH UNLIMITED FREE TRAVEL

This is an opportunity to team up with a seven year old company that has
handled many FORTUNE 500 companies such as Coca-Cola, Pepsi-Cola, Ford and
General Motors in a unique travel program  International Marketing
Enterprises (I.M.E.) is now making available to the general public, what up
to know, has only been available to companies like the Big 3 Automakers, Coke
and Pepsi.  They are using word of mouth or networking to accomplish this and
are returning 70% of what they take in to those responsible for the
marketing.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO YOU ?

That depends on you.  But, let me put it this way: My upline started in the
program 3 and a half weeks ago and has already earned $38,000.00 (U.S.)

AND, the best thing about this program is that the consumer is the first
winner in this program.  Anyone who joins this program gets unlimited free
accomodations and the cheapest airfare to and from the destinations for 5
full years.  Additionally, every person who joins this program receives seven
travel gift certificates a year that they can give to whomever they like.

If you are willing to start a part-time business from your home and reside in
the United States or Canada this program is available to you.  The cost to
participate in this program is $1000.00 (U.S.). This not only will entitle
you participate in the business opportunity, it gives you membership in the
Dream Vacation Club as well as the Captains Cruise Club.  The Captains Cruise
Club entitles you to deeply discounted cruises all over the world with V.I.P.
treatment.  Although this may sound like  a lot of money, please realize that
your investment can be repayed many times over.  It all depends on you !!
Also, even you do not make one sale to another person, the benefits from the
travel package will far outweigh the cost of joining.
THIS IS A SERIOUS BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY for SERIOUS PEOPLE.

WHAT'S MY NEXT STEP:

1. Call  the following number and listen to a recorded nine minute
presentation that will tell you everything about the opportunity:
1-512-703-6101.

2. Then call the FAX ON DEMAND NUMBER from your fax machine.  That number is
1- 512- 703- 6199.

3. Then e-mail me at JXSU33A @prodigy.com.  Please leave me your
telephone number along with area code and a convenient time to call.  I will
be glad to call you back.

Please follow all three steps in order. SERIOUS inquiries only.  This program
can change your life.  It has already changed mine.

Regards,

Al

'Free? upgrade kit was Re: picstart 16B and 16C62X'
1995\11\13@224559 by John Magrane

picon face
The upgrade kit is being sent free to recent purchasers of the PICSTART 16B who
registered. Recent means since around May. If your PICSTART is substantially
older than that, you have to purchase the upgrade kit (unless you can convince
your distributor that your such a good customer you deserve one for free. : )

John Magrane
FAE Bell Industries
(408) 734-8570
spam72712.2347spamcompuserve.com

'===>> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 295+'
1995\11\18@150844 by .via.smail

flavicon
-----> NOTE:   Please first read my note which appears below the "Request
for more info Form."  Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request
for More Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company.
You will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of
the info request form below.

IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY:  Please make sure you
return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the
actual form below.  If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form
onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below
form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.*  This is necessary in
order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that
they get daily.

Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not
paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* if
your fax:
1. has a cover page;
2. is more than one page
3. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form
4. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
NOTE:  Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day, but due to thousands of
inquiries coming in per day from potential new members living overseas, the
easiest time to get through is Monday-Friday, 9 am - 5 pm EST (New York
Time).  If you have trouble getting through to their fax, just drop in in
the smail to them via airmail or first class mail.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



*------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------*
REQUEST FOR MORE INFO:  please return *only* this section (with no cover
page) via 1-page fax to:
                             718-967-1550 in the USA

or via smail (airmail) to:    Magazine Club Inquiry Center
                                        Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept.
                                        PO Box 990
                                        Staten Island NY  10312-0990

Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged.  If you do not
have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you
until you do have one.  If you saw this message, then you should have one.  :)

Name:
Internet email address:
Smail home address:
City-State-Zip:
Country:
Work Tel. #:
Work Fax #:
Home Tel. #:
Home Fax #:

How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of
the internet that you saw us mentioned in):  Referral by  Karen Stern.
111895-l

Name of USA mags you currently get on the newstand or in the store:

Name of USA mags you currently get on the newstand or in the store:

Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail:

Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you:

Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"):

*------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------*


Catalogue Options:
1.  19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total).
2.  For more advanced computer users:  attached text file ~525K - you
    must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to
    open it with your word processor.  If in doubt, don't ask for this
    version.  This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1
    and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document
    with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how
    to deal with this option.
3.  For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached
    text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea),
     ~133K.  Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no
    special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed.  You
    just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands
    (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as
    you still have to know how to deal with an attached file.  It will cut
    your download time by 75%.   Expands out to the same ~525K file in
    option #2.  See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be
    able to do.
4.  For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with
    Stuffit(tm),  ~114K.  Can be decompressed by any computer user who
    has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files.
    This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your
    download time by 78%.   Expands out to the same ~525K file in option
    #2.  See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do.



Hi fellow 'netters,

My name is Karen Stern and I recently started using a magazine subscription
club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your
first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them.    They have over
1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a
subscription basis.   As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of
a selection than I ever knew even existed.  They have magazines for most
every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.

Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their
competitors and even the publishers themselves.  This is their price
guarantee.

Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half
of what the newstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines.  On some
titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newstands charge.  They
feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas.   In the USA, people
buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes
or hours.  They are so cheap in the USA!   Well, this company would like to
make it the same way for their overseas members.  They are also cheaper
than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the
publishers themselves!   This is their price guarantee.  Around one-half
their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new
members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language.

Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and
cut-out all the middlemen.

They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above.  It has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student.
I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my
part-time software business!  Please fill out the above form and carefully
follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail.

They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are
less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other
times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet.
They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it.

They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I
haved moved from one country to another.

They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from
a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA.   They will
give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them
to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular
USA titles they sell.

They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have
clients in around 45 or 46 countries now.  Outside the USA there is a
charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie
subs) that varies from magazine to magazine.  I have found their staff to
be very friendly and courteous.  They even helped me with an address change
when I moved from one country to another.

The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members"
(even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase
automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts
as a new member.   When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls
you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes
he has one of his assistants call.  He is kind of quirky sometimes - he
insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I
sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!),  but you can place future
orders (after your first order) via E-mail.

He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know
just as much as he does about this magazine stuff.  If you live overseas,
he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he
still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long
distance rates are cheaper then.

He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing
members and he does virtually no advertising.  When I got set-up, they had
a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they
could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately
when you call. )  I think they are able to get back to prospective new
members  the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased
their staff.  I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above
form to them, that is the way to get started!

They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above.  It has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

They then send you email  that outlines how his club works and the list of
free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what
he sells;  and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly,
no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and
answer all your questions.

Once you get in, you'll love them. I do.


Sincerely,

Karen Stern


ps.  please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net
who you think might be interested in it!  It is a great deal!  If you join
and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for
each new person you get to join after you join!   If you exceed 25
referrals, they let you use them to give away as gifts, for Christmas,
Chanukah or any other occasion.  Please be kind enough to mention my name
when you join.   I will then get a free magazine for a year for referring
you.
Thank you.


'===>> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 295+'
1995\12\04@063510 by .via.smail
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-----> NOTE:   Please first read my note which appears below the "Request
for more info Form."  Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request
for More Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company.
You will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of
the info request form below.

IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY:  Please make sure you
return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the
actual form below.  If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form
onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below
form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.*  This is necessary in
order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that
they get daily.

Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not
paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* if
your fax:
1. has a cover page;
2. is more than one page
3. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form
4. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
NOTE:  Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day, but due to thousands of
inquiries coming in per week from potential new members living overseas,
the easiest time to get through is Monday-Friday, 9 am - 5 pm EST (New York
Time).  If you have trouble getting through to their fax, just drop the
below form to them via smail (airmail or first class mail).
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



*------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------*
REQUEST FOR MORE INFO:  please return *only* this section (with no cover
page) via 1-page fax to:
                             718-967-1550 in the USA

or via smail (airmail) to:    Magazine Club Inquiry Center
                                        Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept.
                                        PO Box 990
                                        Staten Island NY  10312-0990

Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged.  If you do not
have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you
until you do have one.  If you saw this message, then you should have one.  :)

Name:
Internet email address:
Smail home address:
City-State-Zip:
Country:
Work Tel. #:
Work Fax #:
Home Tel. #:
Home Fax #:

How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of
the internet that you saw us mentioned in):  Referral by  Karen Stern.
120495-l

Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:

Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:

Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail:

Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you:

Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"):

*------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------*


Catalogue Format Options:
1.  19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total).
2.  For more advanced computer users:  attached text file ~525K - you
    must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to
    open it with your word processor.  If in doubt, don't ask for this
    version.  This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1
    and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document
    with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how
    to deal with this option.
3.  For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached
    text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea),
     ~133K.  Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no
    special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed.  You
    just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands
    (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as
    you still have to know how to deal with an attached file.  It will cut
    your download time by 75%.   Expands out to the same ~525K file in
    option #2.  See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be
    able to do.
4.  For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with
    Stuffit(tm),  ~114K.  Can be decompressed by any computer user who
    has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files.
    This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your
    download time by 78%.   Expands out to the same ~525K file in option
    #2.  See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do.



Hi fellow 'netters,

My name is Karen Stern and I recently started using a magazine subscription
club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your
first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them.    They have over
1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a
subscription basis.   As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of
a selection than I ever knew even existed.  They have magazines for most
every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.

Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their
competitors and even the publishers themselves.  This is their price
guarantee.

Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half
of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines.  On some
titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge.  They
feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas.   In the USA, people
buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes
or hours.  They are so cheap in the USA!   Well, this company would like to
make it the same way for their overseas members.  They are also cheaper
than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the
publishers themselves!   This is their price guarantee.  Around one-half
their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new
members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language.

Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and
cut-out all the middlemen.

They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above.  It has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student.
I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my
part-time software business!  Please fill out the above form and carefully
follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail.

They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are
less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other
times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet.
They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it.

They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I
haved moved from one country to another.

They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from
a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA.   They will
give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them
to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular
USA titles they sell.

They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have
clients in around 45 or 46 countries now.  Outside the USA there is a
charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie
subs) that varies from magazine to magazine.  I have found their staff to
be very friendly and courteous.  They even helped me with an address change
when I moved from one country to another.

The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members"
(even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase
automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts
as a new member.   When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls
you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes
he has one of his assistants call.  He is kind of quirky sometimes - he
insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I
sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!),  but you can place future
orders (after your first order) via E-mail.

He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know
just as much as he does about this magazine stuff.  If you live overseas,
he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he
still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long
distance rates are cheaper then.

He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing
members and he does virtually no advertising.  When I got set-up, they had
a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they
could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately
when you call. )  I think they are able to get back to prospective new
members  the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased
their staff.  I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above
form to them, that is the way to get started!

They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above.  It has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

They then send you email  that outlines how his club works and the list of
free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what
he sells;  and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly,
no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and
answer all your questions.

Once you get in, you'll love them. I do.


Sincerely,

Karen Stern


ps.  please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net
who you think might be interested in it!  It is a great deal!  If you join
and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for
each new person you get to join after you join!   If you exceed 25
referrals, they let you use them to give away as gifts, for Christmas,
Chanukah or any other occasion.  Please be kind enough to mention my name
when you join.   I will then get a free magazine for a year for referring
you.
Thank you.


'===>> *Fantastic* FREE offer I discovered on the ''
1996\03\17@220516 by x.or.smail
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-----> NOTE:   Please first read my note which appears below the "Request
for more info Form."  Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request
for More Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company.
You will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of
the info request form below.

IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY:  Please make sure you
return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the
actual form below.  If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form
onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below
form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.*  This is necessary in
order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that
they get daily.

Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not
paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* if
your fax:
1. has a cover page;
2. is more than one page
3. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form
4. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form.
5. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only*
   with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard).  This last
   provision re:  no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in
   via smail also.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
NOTE:  Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day / 7 days per week.  If you
have trouble getting through to their fax, or do not have a fax machine at
work or at home, just drop the below form to them via smail (airmail or
first class mail).
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



*------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------*
REQUEST FOR MORE INFO:  please return *only* this section (with no cover
page) via 1-page fax to:
                             718-967-1550 in the USA

or via smail (first class mail or airmail) to:
                                        Magazine Club Inquiry Center
                                        Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept.
                                        PO Box 990
                                        Staten Island NY  10312-0990

Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged.  If you do not
have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you
until you do have one.  If you saw this message, then you should have one.  :)

---> SORRY, BUT NO HANDWRITTEN FORMS WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED.
       MUST BE TYPED-OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER. <---

Name:
Internet email address:
Smail home address:
City-State-Zip:
Country:
Work Tel. #:
Work Fax #:
Home Tel. #:
Home Fax #:

How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of
the internet that you saw us mentioned in):  Referral by:  Shyamala Raperjee.
031796-l

Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:

Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:

Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail:

Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you:

Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"):

*------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------*


Catalogue Format Options:
1.  19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total).
2.  For more advanced computer users:  attached text file ~525K - you
    must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to
    open it with your word processor.  If in doubt, don't ask for this
    version.  This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1
    and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document
    with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how
    to deal with this option.
3.  For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached
    text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea),
     ~133K.  Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no
    special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed.  You
    just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands
    (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as
    you still have to know how to deal with an attached file.  It will cut
    your download time by 75%.   Expands out to the same ~525K file in
    option #2.  See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be
    able to do.
4.  For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with
    Stuffit(tm),  ~114K.  Can be decompressed by any computer user who
    has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files.
    This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your
    download time by 78%.   Expands out to the same ~525K file in option
    #2.  See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do.



Hi fellow 'netters,

My name is Shyamala Raperjee and I recently started using a magazine
subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription
deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them.
They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country
on a subscription basis.   As for computer magazines from the USA, they
more of a selection than I ever knew even existed.  They have magazines for
most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.

Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their
competitors and even the publishers themselves.  This is their price
guarantee.

Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half
of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines.  On some
titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge.  They
feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas.   In the USA, people
buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes
or hours.  They are so cheap in the USA!   Well, this company would like to
make it the same way for their overseas members.  They are also cheaper
than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the
publishers themselves!   This is their price guarantee.  Around one-half
their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new
members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language.

Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and
cut-out all the middlemen.

They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above.  It has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student.
I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my
part-time software business!  Please fill out the above form and carefully
follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail.

They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are
less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other
times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet.
They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it.

They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I
haved moved from one country to another.

They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from
a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA.   They will
give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them
to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular
USA titles they sell.

They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have
clients in around 45 or 46 countries now.  Outside the USA there is a
charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie
subs) that varies from magazine to magazine.  I have found their staff to
be very friendly and courteous.  They even helped me with an address change
when I moved from one country to another.

The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members"
(even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase
automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts
as a new member.   When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls
you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes
he has one of his assistants call.  He is kind of quirky sometimes - he
insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I
sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!),  but you can place future
orders (after your first order) via E-mail.

He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know
just as much as he does about this magazine stuff.  If you live overseas,
he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he
still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long
distance rates are cheaper then.

He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing
members and he does virtually no advertising.  When I got set-up, they had
a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they
could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately
when you call. )  I think they are able to get back to prospective new
members  the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased
their staff.  I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above
form to them, that is the way to get started!

They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above.  It has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

They then send you email  that outlines how his club works and the list of
free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what
he sells;  and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly,
no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and
answer all your questions.

Once you get in, you'll love them. I do.


Sincerely,

Shyamala Raperjee


ps.  please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net
who you think might be interested in it!  It is a great deal!  If you join
and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for
each new person you get to join after you join!   If you exceed 25
referrals, they let you use them to give away as gifts, for Christmas,
Chanukah or any other occasion.  Please be kind enough to mention my name
when you join.   I will then get a free magazine for a year for referring
you.
Thank you.

'A FREE Listing in the Who's Who Guide'
1996\03\23@154218 by sysop

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I am sending this message to your mailing list because
I want you to be aware that you can get a FREE listing
in DJSA's Who's Who Guide.

The guide is packed with listings and links of WWW Sites
and is accessible from any browser. The guide is written
in html and also links each site to the Home Page(s) that
have been prepared by each company, educational facility,
government or information provider.

It is a great way to "surf the net".

If you would like to add a FREE listing to this Guide, you can
do so by sending five lines (see below) by reply to this message.

Line 1...................Name of Company
Line 2...................E-Mail Addresses (two max)
Line 3...................WWW Address
Line 4...................Modem Number and/or Telnet Address
Line 5...................Description of Service (70 char max)

We can activate your WWW Site so that it can be accessed directly
>from the Who's Who Guide. You can also receive E-mail from the Guide.
Just ask for details about this optional service.

Thanks!


DJSA Bulletin Board, Inc.
http://www.djsa.com
telnet://djsa.com
ftp://djsa.com (you need user-id and password first)
========================= !!! Automated Notice !!! =======================
E-mail replies to this user should have the following on the first line
of message text:        TO: Guide
==========================================================================

1996\03\25@190225 by Odriozola Belden

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To: Guide

Publimax, S.A. de C.V.
rodriozoSTOPspamspamdataflux.com.mx
http://www.dataflux.com.mx/publimax/

Mexican TV station home page.

At 09:33 PM 22/03/96 EST, you wrote:
{Quote hidden}


'---> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 290+ '
1996\04\06@180033 by .fax.number.or.smail.address.shown.below.thank.youn/a
flavicon
-----> NOTE:   Please first read my note which appears below the "Request
for more info Form."  Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request
for More Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company.
You will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of
the info request form below.

IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY:  Please make sure you
return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the
actual form below.  If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form
onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below
form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.*  This is necessary in
order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that
they get daily.

Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not
paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* and/or
*auto-deleted* from the incoming queue of faxes to be read, if your fax:

1. has a cover page;
2. is more than one page
3. is sent more than one time
4. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form
5. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form.
6. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only*
   with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard).  This last
   provision re:  no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in
   via smail also.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
NOTE:  Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day / 7 days per week.   However,
if you have trouble getting through due to the high volume of overseas
faxes coming in during the early morning and late night hours, please note
that the best time to get through to their fax is Monday-Friday, 9 am - 5
pm EST (New York Time).  If you have trouble getting through to their fax,
or do not have a fax machine at work or at home, just drop the below form
to them via smail (airmail or first class mail).
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



*------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------*
REQUEST FOR MORE INFO:  please return *only* this section (with no cover
page) via 1-page fax to:
                             718-967-1550 in the USA

or via smail (first class mail or airmail) to:
                                        Magazine Club Inquiry Center
                                        Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept.
                                        PO Box 990
                                        Staten Island NY  10312-0990

Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged.  If you do not
have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you
until you do have one.  If you saw this message, then you should have one.  :)

---> SORRY, BUT NO HANDWRITTEN FORMS WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED.
       MUST BE TYPED-OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER. <---

Name:
Internet email address:
Smail home address:
City-State-Zip:
Country:
Work Tel. #:
Work Fax #:
Home Tel. #:
Home Fax #:

How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of
the internet that you saw us mentioned in):  Referral by:  Nicola du Plessis.
040696-l

Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:

Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:

Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail:

Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you:

Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"):

*------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------*


Catalogue Format Options:
1.  19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total).
2.  For more advanced computer users:  attached text file ~525K - you
    must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to
    open it with your word processor.  If in doubt, don't ask for this
    version.  This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1
    and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document
    with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how
    to deal with this option.
3.  For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached
    text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea),
     ~133K.  Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no
    special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed.  You
    just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands
    (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as
    you still have to know how to deal with an attached file.  It will cut
    your download time by 75%.   Expands out to the same ~525K file in
    option #2.  See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be
    able to do.
4.  For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with
    Stuffit(tm),  ~114K.  Can be decompressed by any computer user who
    has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files.
    This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your
    download time by 78%.   Expands out to the same ~525K file in option
    #2.  See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do.



Hi fellow 'netters,

My name is Nicola du Plessis and I recently started using a magazine
subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription
deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them.
They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country
on a subscription basis.   As for computer magazines from the USA, they
more of a selection than I ever knew even existed.  They have magazines for
most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.

Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their
competitors and even the publishers themselves.  This is their price
guarantee.

Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half
of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines.  On some
titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge.  They
feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas.   In the USA, people
buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes
or hours.  They are so cheap in the USA!   Well, this company would like to
make it the same way for their overseas members.  They are also cheaper
than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the
publishers themselves!   This is their price guarantee.  Around one-half
their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new
members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language.

Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and
cut-out all the middlemen.

They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above.  It has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student.
I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my
part-time software business!  Please fill out the above form and carefully
follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail.

They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are
less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other
times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet.
They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it.

They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I
haved moved from one country to another.

They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from
a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA.   They will
give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them
to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular
USA titles they sell.

They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have
clients in around 45 or 46 countries now.  Outside the USA there is a
charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie
subs) that varies from magazine to magazine.  I have found their staff to
be very friendly and courteous.  They even helped me with an address change
when I moved from one country to another.

The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members"
(even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase
automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts
as a new member.   When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls
you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes
he has one of his assistants call.  He is kind of quirky sometimes - he
insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I
sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!),  but you can place future
orders (after your first order) via E-mail.

He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know
just as much as he does about this magazine stuff.  If you live overseas,
he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he
still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long
distance rates are cheaper then.

He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing
members and he does virtually no advertising.  When I got set-up, they had
a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they
could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately
when you call. )  I think they are able to get back to prospective new
members  the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased
their staff.  I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above
form to them, that is the way to get started!

They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above.  It has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

They then send you email  that outlines how his club works and the list of
free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what
he sells;  and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly,
no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and
answer all your questions.

Once you get in, you'll love them. I do.


Sincerely,

Nicola du Plessis

1996\04\06@180033 by .fax.number.or.smail.address.shown.below.thank.youn/a

flavicon
-----> NOTE:   Please first read my note which appears below the "Request
for more info Form."  Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request
for More Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company.
You will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of
the info request form below.

IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY:  Please make sure you
return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the
actual form below.  If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form
onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below
form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.*  This is necessary in
order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that
they get daily.

Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not
paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* and/or
*auto-deleted* from the incoming queue of faxes to be read, if your fax:

1. has a cover page;
2. is more than one page
3. is sent more than one time
4. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form
5. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form.
6. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only*
   with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard).  This last
   provision re:  no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in
   via smail also.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
NOTE:  Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day / 7 days per week.   However,
if you have trouble getting through due to the high volume of overseas
faxes coming in during the early morning and late night hours, please note
that the best time to get through to their fax is Monday-Friday, 9 am - 5
pm EST (New York Time).  If you have trouble getting through to their fax,
or do not have a fax machine at work or at home, just drop the below form
to them via smail (airmail or first class mail).
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



*------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------*
REQUEST FOR MORE INFO:  please return *only* this section (with no cover
page) via 1-page fax to:
                             718-967-1550 in the USA

or via smail (first class mail or airmail) to:
                                        Magazine Club Inquiry Center
                                        Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept.
                                        PO Box 990
                                        Staten Island NY  10312-0990

Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged.  If you do not
have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you
until you do have one.  If you saw this message, then you should have one.  :)

---> SORRY, BUT NO HANDWRITTEN FORMS WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED.
       MUST BE TYPED-OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER. <---

Name:
Internet email address:
Smail home address:
City-State-Zip:
Country:
Work Tel. #:
Work Fax #:
Home Tel. #:
Home Fax #:

How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of
the internet that you saw us mentioned in):  Referral by:  Nicola du Plessis.
040696-l

Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:

Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:

Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail:

Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you:

Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"):

*------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------*


Catalogue Format Options:
1.  19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total).
2.  For more advanced computer users:  attached text file ~525K - you
    must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to
    open it with your word processor.  If in doubt, don't ask for this
    version.  This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1
    and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document
    with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how
    to deal with this option.
3.  For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached
    text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea),
     ~133K.  Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no
    special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed.  You
    just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands
    (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as
    you still have to know how to deal with an attached file.  It will cut
    your download time by 75%.   Expands out to the same ~525K file in
    option #2.  See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be
    able to do.
4.  For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with
    Stuffit(tm),  ~114K.  Can be decompressed by any computer user who
    has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files.
    This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your
    download time by 78%.   Expands out to the same ~525K file in option
    #2.  See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do.



Hi fellow 'netters,

My name is Nicola du Plessis and I recently started using a magazine
subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription
deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them.
They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country
on a subscription basis.   As for computer magazines from the USA, they
more of a selection than I ever knew even existed.  They have magazines for
most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.

Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their
competitors and even the publishers themselves.  This is their price
guarantee.

Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half
of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines.  On some
titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge.  They
feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas.   In the USA, people
buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes
or hours.  They are so cheap in the USA!   Well, this company would like to
make it the same way for their overseas members.  They are also cheaper
than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the
publishers themselves!   This is their price guarantee.  Around one-half
their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new
members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language.

Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and
cut-out all the middlemen.

They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above.  It has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student.
I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my
part-time software business!  Please fill out the above form and carefully
follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail.

They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are
less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other
times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet.
They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it.

They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I
haved moved from one country to another.

They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from
a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA.   They will
give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them
to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular
USA titles they sell.

They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have
clients in around 45 or 46 countries now.  Outside the USA there is a
charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie
subs) that varies from magazine to magazine.  I have found their staff to
be very friendly and courteous.  They even helped me with an address change
when I moved from one country to another.

The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members"
(even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase
automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts
as a new member.   When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls
you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes
he has one of his assistants call.  He is kind of quirky sometimes - he
insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I
sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!),  but you can place future
orders (after your first order) via E-mail.

He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know
just as much as he does about this magazine stuff.  If you live overseas,
he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he
still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long
distance rates are cheaper then.

He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing
members and he does virtually no advertising.  When I got set-up, they had
a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they
could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately
when you call. )  I think they are able to get back to prospective new
members  the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased
their staff.  I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above
form to them, that is the way to get started!

They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and
juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above.  It has lists of
all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by
categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that
they sell.

They then send you email  that outlines how his club works and the list of
free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what
he sells;  and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly,
no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and
answer all your questions.

Once you get in, you'll love them. I do.


Sincerely,

Nicola du Plessis

'Free Web Site!'
1996\04\07@025944 by webman

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You can get a FREE Web Site by joing DJSA BBS.

Just Telnet to djsa.com or visit us on the WWW
at http://www.djsa.com or dial direct into
South Florida at 954-749-6458.

You get a FREE trial as well!

Full Internet including, telnet, ftp, rlogin,
finger, usenet and internet relay chat.

We have over 25,000 shareware programs,
teleconference, message central and a WIN 95
Client/Server platform.

So contact us today!

1996\04\07@025944 by webman

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You can get a FREE Web Site by joing DJSA BBS.

Just Telnet to djsa.com or visit us on the WWW
at http://www.djsa.com or dial direct into
South Florida at 954-749-6458.

You get a FREE trial as well!

Full Internet including, telnet, ftp, rlogin,
finger, usenet and internet relay chat.

We have over 25,000 shareware programs,
teleconference, message central and a WIN 95
Client/Server platform.

So contact us today!

'Interesting Free Offer........'
1996\04\08@035236 by JohnChen00

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Forwarded message:
Subj:    Interesting Free Offer........
Date:    96-04-08 02:45:01 EDT
From:    JohnChen00

To:      announcement.serviceSTOPspamspamKILLspamr1.f62.n8669.z303.fidonet.org

-----> NOTE:   Please first read my note which appears below the "Request for
more info Form."  Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request for More
Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company.  You will
get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of the info
request form below.

IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY:  Please make sure you
return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the
actual form below.  If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form
onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below
form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.*  This is necessary in
order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that
they get daily.

Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not
paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* and/or
*auto-deleted* from the incoming queue of faxes to be read, if your fax:

1. has a cover page;
2. is more than one page
3. is sent more than one time
4. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form
5. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form.
6. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only*
   with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard).  This last
   provision re:  no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in
   via smail also.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
NOTE:  Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day / 7 days per week.   However,
if you have trouble getting through due to the high volume of overseas faxes
coming in during the early morning and late night hours, please note that the
best time to get through to their fax is Monday-Friday, 9 am - 5 pm EST (New
York Time).  If you have trouble getting through to their fax, or do not have
a fax machine at work or at home, just drop the below form to them via smail
(airmail or first class mail).
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



*------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------*
REQUEST FOR MORE INFO:  please return *only* this section (with no cover
page) via 1-page fax to:
                             718-967-1550 in the USA

or via smail (first class mail or airmail) to:
                                        Magazine Club Inquiry Center
                                        Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept.
                                        PO Box 990
                                        Staten Island NY  10312-0990

Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged.  If you do not
have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you
until you do have one.  If you saw this message, then you should have one.
:)

---> SORRY, BUT NO HANDWRITTEN FORMS WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED.
       MUST BE TYPED-OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER. <---

Name:
Internet email address:
Smail home address:
City-State-Zip:
Country:
Work Tel. #:
Work Fax #:
Home Tel. #:
Home Fax #:

How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of
the internet that you saw us mentioned in):  Referral by:  John Chen.
040896-l-ifo

Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:

Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:

Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail:

Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you:

Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"):

*------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------*


Catalogue Format Options:
1.  19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total).
2.  For more advanced computer users:  attached text file ~525K - you
    must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to
    open it with your word processor.  If in doubt, don't ask for this
    version.  This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1
    and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document
    with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how
    to deal with this option.
3.  For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached
    text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea),
     ~133K.  Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no
    special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed.  You
    just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands
    (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as
    you still have to know how to deal with an attached file.  It will cut
    your download time by 75%.   Expands out to the same ~525K file in
    option #2.  See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be
    able to do.
4.  For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with
    Stuffit(tm),  ~114K.  Can be decompressed by any computer user who
    has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files.
    This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your
    download time by 78%.   Expands out to the same ~525K file in option
    #2.  See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do.



Hi fellow 'netters,

My name is John Chen and I recently started using a magazine subscription
club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your
first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them.    They have over
1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a
subscription basis.   As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a
selection than I ever knew even existed.  They have magazines for most every
area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.

Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their
competitors and even the publishers themselves.  This is their price
guarantee.

Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of
what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines.  On some
titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge.  They
feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas.   In the USA, people buy
magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or
hours.  They are so cheap in the USA!   Well, this company would like to make
it the same way for their overseas members.  They are also cheaper than all
their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers
themselves!   This is their price guarantee.  Around one-half their business
comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak
limited English as a 2nd language.

Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and
cut-out all the middlemen.

They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey)
!)...if you completely fill out the form above.  It has lists of all the
freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories
and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell.

Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student.  I
don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my
part-time software business!  Please fill out the above form and carefully
follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail.

They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less
than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times,
just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet.  They
assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it.

They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I
haved moved from one country to another.

They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a
special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA.   They will
give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them
to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular
USA titles they sell.

They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have
clients in around 45 or 46 countries now.  Outside the USA there is a charge
for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that
varies from magazine to magazine.  I have found their staff to be very
friendly and courteous.  They even helped me with an address change when I
moved from one country to another.

The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members"
(even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase
automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts
as a new member.   When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you
personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has
one of his assistants call.  He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on
setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't
want to have his phone bills!),  but you can place future orders (after your
first order) via E-mail.

He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know
just as much as he does about this magazine stuff.  If you live overseas, he
will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still
makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance
rates are cheaper then.

He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing
members and he does virtually no advertising.  When I got set-up, they had a
2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could
join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you
call. )  I think they are able to get back to prospective new members  the
same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff.  I am
not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is
the way to get started!

They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey)
!)...if you completely fill out the form above.  It has lists of all the
freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories
and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell.

They then send you email  that outlines how his club works and the list of
free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he
sells;  and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly,
no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and
answer all your questions.

Once you get in, you'll love them. I do.


Sincerely,

John Chen

1996\04\08@103329 by Bryan S Highland

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1996\04\08@140703 by Roger Books

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Would you please LOOK AT WHERE YOU ARE SENDING YOUR RESPONSES!!!!!

It was bad enough the first time, we on the PICLIST don't need to see
thirty bazillion copies of this spam.

Roger

'Interesting Free Advice........'
1996\04\08@172317 by Don McKenzie

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On Mon, 8 Apr 1996, Roger Books wrote:

> Would you please LOOK AT WHERE YOU ARE SENDING YOUR RESPONSES!!!!!
> It was bad enough the first time, we on the PICLIST don't need to see
> thirty bazillion copies of this spam.
> Roger

I'm with you Roger, I just got four copies from 3 PIClist subscribers.
Please guys, can't you just ignore!!!

Don McKenzie donmck.....spamlabyrinth.net.au
DonTronics Tullamarine, Australia
http://www.labyrinth.net.au/~donmck

PIC Programmers starting at $15US, BS1/2 & Alternatives 18/28 PIC proto
PicoSaurus, the 40 pin ETI PIC Basic with 8K EEPROM Free Windows Dev Sys

'NEW Bulk Email Program WOW's The INTERNET!! FREE O'
1996\04\17@025918 by BEST BULK EMAIL PROGRAM

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                                NEW BULK EMAIL PROGRAM!

                         MADE EASY FOR "ANYONE" TO LOAD & USE!
                      Will Strip Email Addresses, Sort and Send!!
                       Call 1-800-351-8085 For More Information
                                  NOW FOR PC OR MAC!!
1ST PROGRAM:

- SEARCHES AND FINDS EMAIL ADDRESSES
- SORTS AND REMOVES DUPLICATE ADDRESSES
- PINGS EMAIL LIST TO VERIFY ACCOUNTS ARE ACTIVE THEN
  AUTOMATICALLY REMOVES NON DELIVERABLES


2ND PROGRAM :

- AUTOMATICALLY SENDS EMAIL *** YOU DO NOT HAVE TO STAY LOGGED ON.
You can send MILLIONS of email, depending of the speed of your mail server!

It is NOW EASY to down load and send massive amounts of email addresses
from NEWSGROUPS, MAILING LISTS, AOL, COMPUSERVE, PRODIGY, DELPHI, ect.

PROGRAMS WRITTEN BY A CERTIFIED UNIX SYSTEMS ADMINISTRATOR.

PROGRAM#1 will run continously 24 hours a day.
Search and Find Email addresses from the 'Net. Then the program sorts,
removes dups and pings the addresses.

PROGRAM #2 AUTOMATICALLY sends ALL your email.  There is NO LIMIT on the
capacity!  BIG BENIFIT: (You DO NOT have to stay Logged On!)
You will receive STEP BY STEP  "easy to follow" instruction on:
How to find,  search and download email addresses from ALL Newsgroups,
Mailing  Lists and ALL the Online providers. How to AUTOMATE sort email,
remove dups and ping  your email list. How to set up a shell account.  How
to load these MARVELOUS programs to send your  message to an UNLIMITED
amount of email addresses!

The entire process is so simplified, that even a beginner can IMMEDIATELY
use these programs.

The cost of both programs cost $249.00 including a clearly  written and
illustrated, easy to follow instructions.

FREE OFFER:

ORDER BEFORE THE 25TH OF APRIL AND RECEIVE 150,000 EMAIL ADDRESSES TO START
YOUR ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN.
All Free email addresses are .com, .net, .org  ...

For Ordering Information Please Call:

Enuchs. Etc.
1-800-351-8085
Call the 800# ONLY ... we do not reply by email.
We'll Be Happy to DIRECTLY Answer Any Questions!

PLEASE ALLOW 7 DAYS FOR DELIVERY ... INDICATE PC OR MAC FORMAT

P.S.

This is a SIMPLE to use UNIX SHELL/C PROGRAM.  Both programs 1 and 2 are
designed to run directly off your internet servers computer (shell
account).  This program is designed for simplicity of use for ANYONE to
use.  Once the programs are loaded on to the Shell Account, you can log off
and let the ISP's computer complete the job!  This is NOT a PPP connection
like FLOODGATE or EUDORA or FREEDOM where your computer/program is subject
to TIMEOUTS and BUGS.  There are NO TEDIOUS configuration requirements!
Simply load these powerful programs and sign off ... go play golf or take a
nap. These programs are designed to run on their own.

Make sure that you have a phone number and address for your prospects to
call or write.  After 6 to 8 hours of program 2 running, your ISP is likely
to cancel your account due to complaints.  But alas, it is to late ... your
million + email messages are happily on their way!

Best Success,
Enuchs, Etc.

1996\04\17@085715 by myke predko

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>                                 NEW BULK EMAIL PROGRAM!
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>Call the 800# ONLY ... we do not reply by email.
>We'll Be Happy to DIRECTLY Answer Any Questions!
--- cut --- cut ---

Isn't it ironic that *they* don't reply to email?

Myke
Myke

"We're Starfleet officers, weird is part of the job."

Capt. Catherine Janeway

1996\04\17@101623 by Doc Quixote

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>                                  NEW BULK EMAIL PROGRAM!
>
>                           MADE EASY FOR "ANYONE" TO LOAD & USE!
>                        Will Strip Email Addresses, Sort and Send!!
>                         Call 1-800-351-8085 For More Information
>                                    NOW FOR PC OR MAC!!

<MUNCH>

What ever happened to the proposal to restrict posting to the list to
members of the list?

                               Later!
                               David
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David Edwards   ||  I will not do it, in my car, I will not speak ||
U of MO, Rolla  || for UMR.  I would not, could not in a plane, I ||
spam_OUTdpespamTakeThisOuTumr.edu     || would not, could not on a train. I will not    ||
               || speak for UMR, I will not do it, Sam you are.  ||
               ====================================================

1996\04\17@200343 by hoss karoly

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it's a pity that eunuchs found our little isle of peace
i don't care to send gazillion copies of rubbish to unknown poor fellows


'Free data books'
1996\05\02@202514 by Andrew Warren
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Dudes:

This year, I just have a few... Nothing like the 60 pounds of books I
gave away last year.

If you want them, let me know in PRIVATE e-mail; I will gleefully
ignore anyone who replies to the list at large.  This means that you
won't get the books if you simply hit your mailreader's "Reply"
button you need to send your request to me at:

       .....fastfwd.....spamRemoveMEix.netcom.com

Ok... Here's what I have.  They're being given away as a package; I'm
not interested in splitting them up.  They're free, but you pay
shipping (probably only a few dollars in the continental U.S.):

   Microchip Data Book, 1994

   PIC16C6X Data Sheet, 1995 (covers 16C65, 16C64, 16C61)

   PIC14000 Data Sheet, 1995

   2 copies PIC16C7X Data Sheet, 1995 (covers 16C70 aka 16C710,
   16C71, 16C71A aka 16C711, 16C72, 16C73, 16C73A, 16C74,16C74A)

   MPSIM User's Guide, 1995, with Addendum for 16C61, 16C62, 16C62x

   MPASM User's Guide, 1994

   PRO MATE User's Guide, 1994

   A few MPSIM and MPASM Quick-Reference Cards

   Third-Party Guide, 1994/1995

   Third-Party Guide, 1995/1996

The '94 Data Book was the last one that you could actually FIND
anything in, so it's sorta useful even though it doesn't contain
information on the newer PICs.

The 16C6X and 16C7X data books are current, as is the 14000 Data
Book.

The MPSIM, MPASM, and PROMATE documentation is a little dated, but
useful.

-Andy

Andrew Warren - spam_OUTfastfwdTakeThisOuTspamEraseMEix.netcom.com
Fast Forward Engineering, Vista, California
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2499

'Free Data Books -- NO LONGER AVAILABLE'
1996\05\03@011053 by Andrew Warren

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A new record... It took only two hours to find a home for the data
books.

-Andy

Andrew Warren - EraseMEfastfwdspamBeGonespamKILLspamix.netcom.com
Fast Forward Engineering, Vista, California
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2499


'Data Books -- Free to a good (student's) home'
1996\08\05@223228 by fastfwd
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Dudes:

As I've done every six months or so for the last couple of years, I'm
giving away Microchip data books that I no longer need.

Two changes this time:

   1.  There are nowhere near as many as I've given away in the
   past.  I guess Microchip's doing some belt-tightening, since
   they're no longer FedExing me ten pounds of data books every
   few months.

   2.  I'll only send these books to someone with an ".edu" domain
   name... Those of you who have engineering jobs should be able to
   get your data books some other way.

Ok... Here's what I have:

   PIC16C52 Data Sheet (rev. B) -- Qty 2
   PIC16C6X Data Sheet (rev. A) -- Qty 1
   PIC16C7X Data Sheet (rev. B) -- Qty 1
   PIC16C8X Data Sheet (rev. F) -- Qty 1
   PIC14000 Data Sheet (rev. A) -- Qty 1

Each of these books is the latest revision available.

The usual rules apply:

   1.  You MUST reply to me privately; I will cheerfully IGNORE any
   responses sent to the PICLIST.  This means that you probably
   can't just "Reply" to this message; instead, make sure that your
   reply is addressed only to: RemoveMEfastfwdspamBeGonespamspamix.netcom.com.

   2.  It's first-come, first-served.  I'll post a message to the
   list when I've found a recipient.

   3.  Buyer pays shipping (UPS Ground shouldn't cost more than a
   couple of dollars).

   4.  You must take all 6 data books... I'm not interested in
   splitting them up.

-Andy

Andrew Warren - @spam@fastfwdspamspamix.netcom.com
Fast Forward Engineering, Vista, California
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2499

'Free data books are NO LONGER AVAILABLE'
1996\08\06@000919 by fastfwd

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The data books I offered an hour ago are already gone... They're now
on their way to a deserving PICLIST subscriber in Georgia.

-Andy

Andrew Warren - TakeThisOuTfastfwdKILLspamspam@spam@ix.netcom.com
Fast Forward Engineering, Vista, California
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2499

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'Data Books Free to a Good (Student's) Home'
1997\01\11@063502 by fastfwd
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Dudes:

It's that time again... I'm giving away a stack of current and
nearly-current Microchip databooks.

It's only been about 4 months since my last giveaway, so the stack
isn't very large... Just nine books.

Here's what I have:

   PIC16/17 Microcontroller Data Book - 1995/1996
   Non-Volatile Memory Products Data Book - 1995/1996
   MPASM Assembler User's Guide w/quick-ref card - Rev D
   PIC16C7X Data Sheet - Rev B (Qty 2)
   PIC16C6X Data Sheet - Rev B
   Serial EEPROM Handbook - Rev A
   PIC16C55X Data Sheet - Rev A
   Third Party Guide - 1995/1996

Except for the "1995/1996" books, all of these are the latest
revision available.

If you want the books, the rules are (as always):

   1.  You MUST reply to me privately; I will cheerfully IGNORE any
   responses sent to the list.  This means that you probably can't
   just "Reply" to this message; instead, make sure that your reply
   is addressed only to: KILLspamfastfwdspamTakeThisOuTix.netcom.com.

   2.  I'll only send these books to someone with an ".edu" domain
   name... Those of you who have engineering jobs should be able to
   get your data books some other way.

   3.  It's first-come, first-served.  I'll post a message to the
   list when I've found a recipient.

   4.  Buyer pays shipping (UPS Ground shouldn't cost more than a
   few dollars).

   5.  You must take all the data books... I'm not interested in
   splitting them up.

-Andy

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'Free Data Books Have Been Given Away'
1997\01\13@045105 by fastfwd

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Ok... I've found a good home for the Microchip data books I was
giving away.

Thanks to everyone who responded.

-Andy

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'PIC12C508 EMULATOR. Free beta available.'
1997\02\11@141023 by Antti Lukats
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Hi

We have just uploaded a PIC12C508 emulator beta version.
It uses our hardware drivers for PIC I/O emulation, those
you can use your exisiting PIC programmer or Hi-Lo programmer
or LTP port.

This is very beta, and may have bugs, but it does work, at least
LED's in my MOD-EMUP programmer do flash under a PIC program control!

This is not a full Simulator, you should still use MPSIM/MPLAB
for that purpose, but if someone wants to see a PIC program
to work with some real hardware without buying a real hardware
emulator this tool might be useful.

antti

PS Surpises for best bug-hunters!

-- Silicon Studio Ltd.
-- http://www.sistudio.com

'Nearly FREE...Bar Code Readers'
1997\02\18@223733 by Mark G. Forbes

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I've got about 100 circuit boards that could be used
for bar code readers, or anything else that needs to
reflectively detect light and dark.

Circuit summary:

A Hewlett-Packard HBCS-1100 bar code reader head, with
emitter and detector, and focusing optics, is mounted
at the end of a 1" x 2" circuit board. Two .150 diameter
mounting holes provide a means of physical attachment.
The reader feeds a current-to-voltage converter (LM358N)
which in turn feeds a LM311N buffer stage for logic-level
outputs. A 3-pin polarized connector (.100 centers, .025sq pin)
is mounted coplanar with the board to provide the interface.
Pin 1=5V
Pin 2=Ground
Pin 3=Output   5V=Black, 0V=White

These detectors go about $8 in volume, more if you buy just
a few. With the board and such, they're worth even more.

I'd like to get $2 for each one, mostly to cover postage. Any
surplus goes to the PICLIST fund. I'll throw in a nice-looking
schematic, too. As with most of these things, it's first-come,
first-served. If you're not in the USA, you'll need to provide
equivalent local currency....not that I'm going to convert it,
but I figure it's my one chance to get some samples of money
from far corners of the planet.

If you want a bunch of them, let me know by email and I'll
figure out what the cost will be. If you decide it's just
what you need for a product or something, I'll be happy to
throw in the Gerber files for the board layout so you can
make thousands of them. :-)

We were going to use these in a product, and then it got canceled.
Seems you really can't count on the vast majority of people to
insert a card smoothly enough to read a barcode. If you're going
to do that, you need to wait for full insertion, then use an
imaging-type reader to grab the whole barcode at once. Oh, well.

*DON'T* send me email on this! If you want one or more, send
the bucks. IF YOU SEND ME EMAIL ASKING FOR ONE, I WILL IGNORE IT.
The exception is volume-quantity requests.

Use my work address, and be sure to include your return mailing
address. I'll bulk 'em up and ship 'em out in a couple weeks, or
whenever I run out. If I get close to running out, I'll post a
note to that effect.

Mark G. Forbes, R & D Engineer  |  Acres Gaming, Inc.    (541) 766-2515
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about."
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1997\02\20@012424 by opt*oeng

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Mark G. Forbes wrote:
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I have sent you a check for $20 to cover 10 units.  Thanks.
--
NOTE: remove asterisks from email address to reply directly

Paul Mathews, consulting engineer
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non-contact sensing and optoelectronics specialists


'Data Books Free to a Good (Student's) Home'
1997\03\21@182603 by Andrew Warren
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Dudes:

It's only been two months since my last data-book giveaway, but
I already have another stack of books that I don't need:

Number of
Revs from
Current:     Quantity:               Name:
---------    --------   ---------------------------------------------

Current         3       12C5xx Programming Spec - Rev B
Current         4       12C5xx Data Sheet - Rev A
 -1            1       PIC14000 Data Sheet - Rev A
 -1            1       Enhanced PIC16C5x Data Sheet - Rev B
Current         5       PIC16C52 Data Sheet - Rev B
 -4            1       PIC16C62X Data Sheet - Rev A
 -2            1       PIC16C7x Data Sheet - Rev B
Current         1       PIC16C8x Data Sheet - Rev F
 -1            1       PIC16F8x Data Sheet - Rev A
 -2            1       PIC16C9xx Data Sheet - Rev B
Current         1       MPASM Quick Reference Card - Rev C
 -1            1       MPASM User's Guide - Rev D
Current         1       ProMate User's Guide - Rev D
Current         1       MPLAB User's Guide - Rev A
 -1            1       95/96 Non-Volatile Memory Data Book - Rev A
Current         1       1997 Development Systems Ordering Guide
 -1            2       1996 Product Selection Guide - 2nd Edition
Unknown         1       PIC16/17 and Memory Seminar Handbook
 -2            1       1995 PIC16/17 Microcontroller Line Card
 -2            1       1995 Serial EEPROM Line Card

If you want the books, the rules are (as always):

   1.  You MUST reply to me privately; I will cheerfully IGNORE any
   responses sent to the list.  This means that you probably can't
   just "Reply" to this message; instead, make sure that your reply
   is addressed only to: spamBeGonefastfwdspamBeGonespam@spam@ix.netcom.com.

   2.  I'll only send these books to someone with an ".edu" domain
   name... Those of you who have engineering jobs should be able to
   get your data books some other way.

   3.  It's first-come, first-served.  I'll post a message to the
   list when I've found a recipient.

   4.  Buyer pays shipping.

   5.  You must take ALL the data books... I'm not interested in
   splitting them up.

-Andy

P.S.  Just noticed that I also have an extra 1996 Microchip
Technical Library CD-ROM (the third edition, WITHOUT the "Concept"
virus that plagued the second edition)... I'll pack it in with the
books.

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=== Fast Forward Engineering - Vista, California
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=== Custodian of the PICLIST Fund -- For more info, see:
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1997\03\21@202200 by Ben Wirz

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Hey Andy,

       Want to give a few more details on the Virus you mentioned, I have
used that CDROM on my computer and would hate to think there is a Nasty
waiting to strike.

Thanks, goto run...virus scanning to do:)

Ben,



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'Concept Virus (was: "Re: Data Books Free to a Good'
1997\03\21@213704 by Andrew Warren

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Ben Wirz <TakeThisOuTPICLISTspam_OUTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU> wrote:

> Want to give a few more details on the Virus you mentioned, I have
> used [the Microchip Technical Library] CDROM on my computer and
> would hate to think there is a Nasty waiting to strike.

Ben:

The 1996 Microchip Technical Library, Second Edition, contains a
Microsoft Word for Windows file ("register.doc", maybe?  I forget)
that's been infected with the "Concept" virus.

This virus isn't particularly malicious; it just prevents you from
saving Word documents as ".doc" files (instead, you have to save
them as Word "template" files, by giving them the extension ".dot").

Microsoft has a set of programs and Word macros (available on their
web site) that protect against the Concept virus; if you use
Microsoft Word, you should probably download them.

Note that ONLY the "1996 Second Edition" CDROM has the virus; it
does NOT exist in the Third Edition.  Even if you use the Second
Edition CDROM, you can only be affected by the virus if you open
the "register.doc" (or whatever) file in Microsoft Word.

Third Edition CDROMs are available from your Microchip rep.

-Andy

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=== Fast Forward Engineering - Vista, California
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=== Custodian of the PICLIST Fund -- For more info, see:
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'Free Data Books Have Been Given Away'
1997\03\21@224224 by Andrew Warren

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I've found a good home for the data books... Thanks to all who
responded.

-Andy

=== Andrew Warren - TakeThisOuTfastfwdEraseMEspamRemoveMEix.netcom.com
=== Fast Forward Engineering - Vista, California
===
=== Custodian of the PICLIST Fund -- For more info, see:
=== www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2499/fund.html


'Where can I found some free stuff...?'
1997\04\11@102335 by Luc Turcotte
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I'm from Canada (sorry for my bad english) and I've started to work a
little bit with PIC. Working with assembler is very hard to me. I want
to programming with a easier language for me like C and Basic.
       I do that only for play and I dont want to spend a lot of money. Is
someone know some free sharewares or demo programs?

                       Thanks!!!

Luc Turcotte
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1997\04\11@145515 by Micheal Yano

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DON'T BLAME YOUR BAD ENGLISH ON CANADA!!!!


At 10:12 AM 4/11/97 -0400, you wrote:
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Thanks.


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1997\04\12@002234 by Mike Smith

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> DON'T BLAME YOUR BAD ENGLISH ON CANADA!!!!

Hey!  Easy on those intra-mural flames!

>
>
> At 10:12 AM 4/11/97 -0400, you wrote:
> >I'm from Canada (sorry for my bad english) and I've started to work a
> >little bit with PIC. Working with assembler is very hard to me. I want
> >to programming with a easier language for me like C and Basic.
> >        I do that only for play and I dont want to spend a lot of money.
Is
> >someone know some free sharewares or demo programs?
> >

CCS do a reasonable C for about $95 - its not free, but is reasonably close
to K&R where possible.  That's practically a shareware price, anyway
(assuming you register shareware you use).

MikeS

1997\04\12@162154 by Andy Kunz

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At 01:23 PM 4/11/97 -0400, you wrote:
>DON'T BLAME YOUR BAD ENGLISH ON CANADA!!!!

They have an odd combination of accents up there.  They same some words
correctly (like Yankees), some like the Brits, and some like Rebels.  On to
a joke (pardon the lack of PIC application here).

Seems back quite a few years ago, they didn't have a name for that part of
the continent.  In trying to pick a name, the Frenchies wanted something
romantic, but everybody else wanted a word that could be easily pronounced.
The feuding in the parliament along language lines went on for months,
until someone suggested, "Why don't we just draw letters from a hat, and
use that?"

Everyone was ecstatic.  Here was a way that nobobody could be offended, and
the word would be left to Providence.  They sent a delegation to the Queen
(in England) to get her approval, and she ok'd it with one provision.  To
prevent any more squabbling, the drawing would be witnessed by an American
statesman, to guarantee objectivity.

The day arrived, and the American ('merkin, for you Canadians <G>) had his
long quill pen in hand.  A Frenchie would draw a letter from a hat, and his
English-speaking companion would read it to the others.  The American would
record the letters.

The first was drawn.  It was held up for all to see, and the man said, "C,
eh?"  The statesmen recorded it.  The next was drawn.  "N, eh?"  This was
recorded also.  Another came out. "D, eh?"  At this point, the Yank started
jumping up and down.  "THAT'S IT!" he shouted.  The other two men looked at
him funny.  "C'est?"

The American had written C-A-N-A-D-A on his paper.

Andy

PS.  I have told this to several of my Canadian friends.  They all went
ROFL when I said "C, eh."  If you don't get it, you've never heard a Canuck
talk.


==================================================================
Andy Kunz - Montana Design - 409 S 6th St - Phillipsburg, NJ 08865
         Hardware & Software for Industry & R/C Hobbies
       "Go fast, turn right, and keep the wet side down!"
==================================================================

1997\04\13@180315 by Robert Lunn

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>To prevent any more squabbling, the drawing would be witnessed by an
>American statesman, to guarantee objectivity.

       By which you mean a citizen of the United States of America?
       You haven't taken over the whole continent yet!

>The day arrived, and the American ('merkin, for you Canadians <G>) had his
>long quill pen in hand.  A Frenchie would draw a letter from a hat, and his
>English-speaking companion would read it to the others.  The American would
>record the letters.

       Hmm, using 'merkin' as a tag for ethnic United Staters has
       an hypnotically appealing tone <G>.

___Bob

PS:     look it up.

1997\04\13@204046 by pfisch

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Luc Turcotte wrote:
>
> I'm from Canada (sorry for my bad english) and I've started to work a
> little bit with PIC. Working with assembler is very hard to me. I want
> to programming with a easier language for me like C and Basic.
>         I do that only for play and I dont want to spend a lot of money. Is
> someone know some free sharewares or demo programs?
>
>                         Thanks!!!
>
> Luc Turcotte
> spam_OUTturl0309spamspamBeGoneele.etsmtl.ca


Bonjour luc,

j'espre que tu sais qu'il y a un seminaire de MicroChip a St-Laurent en
mai.

Si non fait le moi savoir et je te donnerais les info'S

--
Pierre Fischer, VA/VE2AH                            
Technicien en TŽlŽcommunication        
1996 rue Henriette                              
Carignan, P.Q.  CANADA                                
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Tel: (514) 658-2738

1997\04\13@204052 by Andy Kunz

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At 07:41 AM 4/14/97 +1000, you wrote:
>>To prevent any more squabbling, the drawing would be witnessed by an
>>American statesman, to guarantee objectivity.
>
>        By which you mean a citizen of the United States of America?
>        You haven't taken over the whole continent yet!

Any Canadian with sense won't go to a hostile Mid-East country and claim to
be an American just because he shares the continent with us and the
Mexicans.  And few Canadians that I know would care to admit the Quebecers
are on the north side of the parallel (at least in public).

>>The day arrived, and the American ('merkin, for you Canadians <G>) had his
>>long quill pen in hand.  A Frenchie would draw a letter from a hat, and his
>>English-speaking companion would read it to the others.  The American would
>>record the letters.
>
>        Hmm, using 'merkin' as a tag for ethnic United Staters has
>        an hypnotically appealing tone <G>.

Eh Bob, you knew what I meant, yeah.  For those who don't...

>PS:     look it up.

if your dictionary has it.  Ours goes from "merit" to "merle."

Andy

==================================================================
Andy Kunz - Montana Design - 409 S 6th St - Phillipsburg, NJ 08865
         Hardware & Software for Industry & R/C Hobbies
       "Go fast, turn right, and keep the wet side down!"
==================================================================

1997\04\13@223233 by ns

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flame.

flame. flame.

counter-flame.

counter-flame.  counter-flame.

counter-counter-flame.

counter-counter-flame. counter-counter-flame.

....
ad infinitum

1997\04\13@230525 by Mike Smith

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> From: EraseMEdlionsRemoveMEspamacs.itd.uts.edu.au <.....dlionsspamspam_OUTACS.ITD.UTS.EDU.AU>
> To: @spam@PICLISTEraseMEspamspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: Where can I found some free stuff...?
> Date: Monday, 14 April 1997 11:59
>
> flame.
>
> flame. flame.
>
> counter-flame.
>
> counter-flame.  counter-flame.
>
> counter-counter-flame.
>
> counter-counter-flame. counter-counter-flame.
>
> ....
> ad infinitum

Got it.  A little verbose though.  How about -

main()
{  while(1)
     flame();
}

or this one, if you've got a virtual memory stack <g>

main()
{  flame();
}

flame()
{  flame();
}

Mike Smith
(mikesmith_OZTakeThisOuTspamKILLspamrelaymail.net)


'free DOS simulator for 16C84 ?'
1997\06\02@202850 by Ravindra Divekar
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can anyone point me to a DOS based
free PIC16C84 (time-tested) simulator?
doesnt matter if it doesnt simulate interrupts...

1997\06\04@094631 by myke predko

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Ravindra,

I noticed nobody responded to this yet.

Check out the Microchip Web Page and look at MPSIM.  DOS Command Line Based
and probably the most accurate one you can get for the 16C84.

myke
>can anyone point me to a DOS based
>free PIC16C84 (time-tested) simulator?
>doesnt matter if it doesnt simulate interrupts...
>
>

"Aliens are really just the same as us, only their molecules are different"
- Will Robinson

'free UNIX PIC assembler/simulator ...'
1997\06\11@170056 by Ravindra Divekar

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Hi guys!

Were any of you able to compile and run Randy Sargent's
free assembler/simulator for PICs on SUNOS4 (solaris-1) ?

i tried, but it gives me a few compile errors, although randy
says some people were able to get it going.

if you dont know what i'm talking about, check:

http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/rsargent/picutils.html

Thanks!...Ravindra/.

1997\06\11@215649 by Darren Humphrey

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Ravindra Divekar wrote:
>
> Hi guys!
>
> Were any of you able to compile and run Randy Sargent's
> free assembler/simulator for PICs on SUNOS4 (solaris-1) ?
>
> i tried, but it gives me a few compile errors, although randy
> says some people were able to get it going.
>
> if you dont know what i'm talking about, check:
>
> http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/rsargent/picutils.html
>
> Thanks!...Ravindra/.

I was finally able to compile and link both under Linux, but was unable
to get any of the sample files to work.  Also, there didn't seem to be
much in the way of documenting his particular flavor of assembly.

I have had more success modifying NITPIC to read the output from PICASM.

Darren


'Free BASIC - pic code compiler ???'
1997\07\31@133524 by Antonio Vilches
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Someone mentioned recently that there were some free BASIC to pic code
compilers available.

Could someone point out where?

Cheers,
Antonio

1997\07\31@190951 by Don McKenzie

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Antonio Vilches wrote:
>
> Someone mentioned recently that there were some free BASIC to pic code
> compilers available.
>
> Could someone point out where?
>
> Cheers,
> Antonio

Well, not quite free, but not expensive. Limited? yes! 64 tokens.

Send a blank message to RemoveMEsiclubTakeThisOuTspamdontronics.com for more details.

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1997\08\06@013724 by tjaart

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Garrick A Kremesec wrote:
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> Do any children read this mailing list?  Dateline is right!  It is easy to
> find!
>

We just act like children! :)

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'[SPAMTRACE] Re: Free Pictures Of Hot Girls !!!'
1997\08\06@013803 by CCSystems

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'Free Pictures Of Hot Girls !!!'
1997\08\06@020505 by Mike Smith

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From: spamBeGone15141465spamspam_OUTjuno.com <EraseME15141465.....spamjuno.com>
To: spamPICLISTKILLspamspam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <PICLISTspamspamTakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, 6 August 1997 14:16
Subject: Free Pictures Of Hot Girls !!!



>This is a one time offer.   You will never receive this or any message from
us
> again.

These 2 statements are the SPAM equivalent of 'your cheque is in the mail'
It *isn't* one time, we will see this message again, and responding to the
email address itself will only give them another address to bomb.

What's the [SPAMTRACE] thing about, BTW?

MikeS
<RemoveMEmikesmith_ozRemoveMEspamrelaymail.net>

1997\08\06@022617 by John Payson

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> What's the [SPAMTRACE] thing about, BTW?

My conjecture is that the [SPAMTRACE] was sent from an address which has
never been used for any purpose other than sending the [SPAMTRACE]
message.  I think he wants to see whether any spams get delivered to that
address; if so, that would constitute pretty strong evidence that:

[1] Someone is grabbing addresses of PicList posters and spamming them.

[2] Whoever spammed that address or fed it to a spamlist disregarded a
clearly-visible notice that he did not wish for that address to get
spammed.

If [1] is true, it would be nice to know.  If [2] is true, that could be
valid cause for legal action; while the [SPAMTRACE] post might be viewed
as entrapment, since its very existence might entice a spammer to send
junkmail to that address, any attempted defense by the junkmailer on those
grounds would fall flat on a couple points:

(a) The actions of the [SPAMTRACE] poster were legal.

(b) The [SPAMTRACE] poster was explicitly asking that the spammer not send
junkmail.

Personally, I doubt if any legal cause of action against spammers would
be successful; nonetheless, I would hope it wold be.  In particular, if
the courts hold that spambaiting is a legal way of catching spammers and
upholds the civil penalties for electronic junk-mail ($500/piece if I
remember right), one could start raking in money off the internet by
setting up "spambait" mailboxes.

I suspect that the people sending out spams would probably argue that
since all they got was a list, they had no way of knowing whether anyone
on that list had requested not to receive spams.  On the other hand, the
court would probably find that the spammer acted with "reckless disregard"
for whether his recipients consented to receive his posts; the only way
IMHO the courts could find otherwise would be if the person selling the
list promised that all the addresses were legit (in which case the person
selling the list would be liable).

Personally, [nearly] anything to get rid of spam is good.  The sooner the
better.  If a method can incorporate a PIC or two, so much the better.

'Free Pictures Of Hot Girls !!! I'm a victim too.'
1997\08\06@114757 by lilel

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Apparently one of the spammers has begun using my address as a return
address, and now I'm getting blasted by people wanting me to stop the
spam.  My AlphaGeek is looking into getting a better firewall for our
mail server.  In the mean time, I am a hapless victim like everyone
else.

We are lobbying hard for better protection against Spam, BTW....

'Best FREE, fully functional 16c84 emulator..'
1997\08\12@060255 by antonio

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Hi all,

Which is the best fully functional and free 16c84 emulator and where
can I download it from?

Cheers,

Antonio Vilches BEng.(Hons)AMIEE


'BASIC STAMP1 Software Freeware?'
1997\09\08@190150 by Antti Lukats
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At 06:22 PM 8/9/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Is it the BASIC STAMP1 Software Freeware?

yes and no. the stamp I/II editors are. the firmware is not.

you can get stamp I editor/downloader from Parallax website
http://www.parallaxinc.com

Stamp I editor is capable to program PIC16C58 chips
with 'enbedded interpreter' with no royalty fees, ie you can
write as many as you want. Well Parallax programmer required :(

well as far as it goes for Stamp I, AT90S1200 will alwasy fit
Stamp I programs. Also Mel Basic Compiler could be used for
PIC16C84 to be programmed with Basic Stamp compiled code.
well thats not free.

there are some more free solutions, but currently no one
of them are truly Stamp I compatible or very useable.

antti



AVR Basic Light NOW Available - Look for September Specials
http://avrbasic.com    Free AVR Basic Compiler Demo Edition

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'EPROM Emulator design and free software files.'
1997\10\16@155848 by Don McKenzie
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Piclisters involved in embedded design may find this project of
interest:

The schematic and all files for an Eprom emulator designed by Fred
Handel are now posted on the web at:
http://www.dontronics.com/emuprom.html

Schematic is in PDF format. Files include the PC driver and the binary
file for the AT89C2051 used. The unit is RS-232 driven.

Fred calls this a shareware pack.

Don McKenzie  TakeThisOuTdon@spam@spam@spam@dontronics.com   http://www.dontronics.com

Basic Stamp Windows 95 Front End Now Available.
PicNPoke "Pacman like" Multimedia Simulator for the PIC16x84.
SimmStick(tm) Atmel & PIC proto PCB's. 30 pin Simm Module Format.
For more details, send a blank message to TakeThisOuTinfospamspamdontronics.com
or KILLspamsimstickKILLspamspamspamBeGonedontronics.com or spamBeGonebasicsKILLspamspamdontronics.com

'Bug free floating point library'
1997\10\27@132146 by Dave Reinagel

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I can't speak for all their libraries, but I did go line-by-line through
the floating point library used in AN624 (PIC14000 example) and found a
number of bugs -- creating numerical errors as large as thoses the
required Intel to recall the Pentium way back when.  No they are not bug
free.  In particular, look at all cases when a shift is done for addition
or normalizing, and when the shift is a multiple of 8 -- the carry bit
and resulting rounding is wrong.

Dave Reinagel

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"Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of Auspex"
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> Hi,
>
> I asked this once before, but got no reply....
> Is the floating point library on the Microchip website bugfree?
>


'Exciting Freelance job opportunity for Designer/Pr'
1997\11\03@194701 by Matt Fisher
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Dear Electronic designer,

Unisar is a consumer product company based in New York City.
We have an opportunity for a Designer/Programmer with PIC experience to
pick-up a Coffee Roaster (Control) project in mid-stream.   We need fast
worker who can show a track record of meeting and beating tough deadlines.
If you have experience controlling motors and heating with the PIC email us
right away.

The project is a "smart" Coffee Roaster for the home.
The first product of its kind! and will be driven by a PIC 16C711.
The product has already won a Design Innovation Award at the Consumer
Electronics Show in Las Vegas 1997; with more honors to come. This product
will be the first of a series of  first of their kind coffee products.
So get on-board and ride the rocket!

The circuit is designed, but not de-bugged.
The software is roughed out, but not optimized.
We have mechanical parts to build an alpha batch of 5 units for
development.

We are poised on the brink of success.
The perfect opportunity for a Designer/Programmer with PIC experience to be
a HERO.
We supply large amounts of gourmet coffee for "testing", just one of many
perks! (If you don't drink coffee thats o.k. too!)

If this challenge is for you and you  love coffee and smart little
products.
Email your resume, Previous Successful Project info and hourly rate
IMMEDIATELY TO:

Roaster@spam@spamKILLspampyramid.net

Coffee Lovers UNITE!

Here is a description of the project:
Main circuit elements:
1. The PIC16C711, an 8-bit eprom based microcontroller which features
on-board a/d convertors and high-current i/o.
2. A precision thermistor probe inside the roaster which monitors the
temperature.  This is used with a precision resistor to create an analog
voltage level which is read by the microcontroller's a/d converter.
3. A NiChrome wire based  heater element.
4. A fan which forces air past the heater and through the roaster.  It is
controlled by a triac, a solid-state switch which allows variable speed as
well as on/off control.
5. A  potentiometer which indicates the level of cooking desired by the
user.  It sets an analog voltage level which is read by the a/d converter
and translated into a "cooking quanta" target value.
6. A SPST switch which is the start/stop button.
7. Three LEDs for status indication.

C. System function overview:
       On power-up, the system enters the ready mode, in which it illuminates t
he
green LED and waits for a button press.
       When the button is pressed, the system enters cook mode, in which the re
d
LED is illuminated, the heater is turned on, and the fan is run at a high
rate.  Periodically, the control knob is read, and a desired cooking quanta
target value is calculated (based on a practical minimum and maximum).
Second, the temperature in the roaster is read, and each successive
temperature reading is added to a running total.  This represents the total
heat energy to which the food has been exposed during this cooking cycle.
       The fan speed is slowed over the course of the cooking to compensate for
the foods lessening thermal mass as moisture content is reduced.
When the total cooking quanta matches the user set value, or if the user
presses the start/stop button, the system enters cool mode.  The heater is
switched off and the blue LED is illuminated.  This mode runs for a set
period, and user input is ignored.  After room temp is reached or a maximum
cooling period has passed, the system resets to the ready mode.

Electronic hardware overview:
Microcontroller:  The PIC16C711-4 by Microchip is an 8-bit eprom based RISC
micocontroller rated for operation to 4MHz.  It features a 4 channel, 8-bit
a/d converter, and thirteen bi-directional i/o lines each capable of
sourcing up to 20mA of current.  This is an OTP device, that is, it
contains on-chip program memory which is blank, and it is batch programmed,
as needed, with the control system code.  The final nature of this code is
dependent upon the particular components used in production, so the chips
MUST be programmed and tested thoroughly in conjunction with production,
and at each critical component.
Oscillator:  This design calls for a main clock rate of 4Mhz.  The
oscillator can be formed by either a ceramic resonator with internal or
external capacitors, or a crystal and capacitors.
Heater control:  The relay used to control the heater is a high efficiency
type, so the PIC can drive it directly by doubling up on its output lines.
Fan control:  The fan motor used in this prototype is a 120v DC motor which
is powered by the AC line through a diode bridge.  It is treated by the
system exactly as if were an AC motor.  The PIC monitors the AC line
voltage.  Each time the alternating voltage passes through the zero point,
the PIC sends a trigger pulse to a triac which drives the fan motor.  The
amount of delay between the zero crossing and the motor trigger determines
the fan speed.

1997\11\04@143105 by Eric van Es

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Matt Fisher wrote:

> We are poised on the brink of success.

Big mouth, eh? Nothing wrong with lots of self-confidance....I guess.

> The perfect opportunity for a Designer/Programmer with PIC experience to be
> a HERO.

I wanna be a super hero. Call Batman (aka PICMAN) ;-)

> Here is a description of the project:

Cool! Now we can all build ourselves one! <G>

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1997\11\05@043355 by Mike Smith

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-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Fisher <RemoveMEmfisherspamspamEraseMETRAKKER.COM>
To: STOPspamPICLIST.....spamMITVMA.MIT.EDU <spamBeGonePICLISTRemoveMEspamRemoveMEMITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, 4 November 1997 11:17
Subject: Exciting Freelance job opportunity for Designer/Programmer with PIC
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Well, put me on the mailing list when you get it in production - I want one!
Sick of stale coffee!

> We supply large amounts of gourmet coffee for "testing", just one of many
>perks! (If you don't drink coffee thats o.k. too!)

<groan!> That was a terrible pun!

Say, can I be a Beta coffee tester?

>
>If this challenge is for you and you  love coffee and smart little
>products.
>Email your resume, Previous Successful Project info and hourly rate

I do, but I'm somewhat occupied.

Say, can ppl buy coffee beans in the green state (not Tasmania) without
having to buy 50kg?

MikeS
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'mailing list for free electronics software (fwd)'
1997\12\14@111026 by Joost Kooij
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Hi,

The message included below was posted to a linux mailinglist. I have
forwarded it to the piclist because it appears to me that the Microchip
PIC processors are very popular with electronics hobbyists, as are freeBSD
and linux with computer hobbyists (of course, this does not mean that
I think that is all that they are good for,) providing a common base.

The Free Electronics Software mailinglist, as its name suggests, intends
to focus on all aspects of freely available software for electronics
development.

The primary target platforms are the also freely available unices freeBSD
and linux, but other operating systems are not excluded a priori.
Ideally, "free"  does not only imply "free of monetary and copyright
restrictions", but also "free of platform restrictions."
There is no restriction either to any kind of microcontroller - or even
microcontrollers in general, eg. ASIC's and analog design are an equally
welcome subject.

Some people on this list may already be familiar with some of the
unix-native pic tools available from the GNUPIC archive. Others may have
experience using some of the dos-based Microchip tools in the dosemu
environment. We want to share these experiences and provide a forum for
people interested in developing newer and better alternatives.

Current plans w.r.t. PIC's are:
- make an inventory of currently available software;
- start working again on NitPic/PicSim, a 16C84 simulator;
- integrating tools into a mplab-like development environment;
- all kinds of interesting projects to create nifty extensions to one's pc
 and hack drivers for it into the linux kernel ;-).

"Future prospectives" (<grin> hey folks, Microchip does this too!) are:
- adding PIC extensions to gcc (c++ on the PIC);
- porting perl to the pic - PICperl (TM) and PICStampede (TM);

Anybody who is interested in:
- knowing what electronics development tools are available for unix
 platforms;
- actually using such tools;
- maybe even helping to develop some;
or just enjoys the discussion on these topics (does your goat come with
source?) is encouraged to subscribe to the Free Electronics Software
mailinglist.

Cheers,


Joost

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To: spamdebian-userspamspamspamlists.debian.org
Subject: mailing list for free electronics software
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I have created a mailing list for discussion about free electronics
software for Unix, especially Linux & FreeBSD. To subscribe, please email

       TakeThisOuTfes-requestspamspamrising.com.au

(where fes means "free electronics software") with the command
"subscribe" in the text. The submission address is

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'Free Win95 Front End'
1997\12\28@004714 by richard skinner

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I don't know if anyone is interested or not, but
I just wrote a nice little front end for Windows 95
that allows Editing, Creating, & Syntax Checking
of .BAS files using Stamp.exe.  This Front End
Also Allows Compiling the .BAS files into .SRC
and .HEX Files using PBC.EXE.  It Also Remembers
the last program, chip type, options you used.
You can work with and compile programs in different
directories and drives instead of having to keep
every source file in the same directory as your compilers.

You must own your own Stamp.Exe and
PM.exe and PBC.exe.

PM.Exe and Stamp.Exe is written by Parallax,Inc.
and is Free on their Web Site    http://www.parallaxinc.com

PBC.EXE  is Pic Basic Compiler by MicroEngineering Labs,Inc.
MEL can be reached at http://www.melabs.com

If your Interested in having a copy email me
direct and just ask.

Richard Skinner
KILLspamrwskinnerspamworldnet.att.net


'Free Win95 Front End'
1998\01\05@073810 by WF AUTOMACAO
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richard skinner wrote:
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I'm very interested! Your "Front End" communicate with the Stamp, using the
serial?

If yes, may you send me the Source? Which language did you use?

Miguel.

1998\01\05@154738 by rwskinner

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Try http://www.dontronics.com  for the program.
Thanks
Richard

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the
>  serial?
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> If yes, may you send me the Source? Which language did you use?
>
> Miguel.

1998\01\06@214816 by Blad Cap

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Please tell me more about this.
Blad Cap
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On Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:41:05 -0800 WF AUTOMACAO <wfRemoveMEspamAMBIENTE.COM.BR>
writes:
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1998\01\06@221312 by richard skinner

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There is a web page at http://www.dontronics.com
under Freeware and Shareware.  It has screen prints of the software
and descriptions, and a download link.

Its Just a Windows 95 Frontend or Menu type setup that allows
you to Launch Editors, Compilers, Programmers from the same
Window using a GUI.   It will also allow you to Auto Compile and
Auto Burn a Chip after exiting the editor.  It remembers all the settings
and files you were using when you exited from the program last,  this
means  the Last Source File, Last Pic Type, Last work directory,
Last Programmer and compiler ......


Richard Skinner
rwskinnerspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTworldnet.att.net

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'Free Assemblers/Compilers'
1998\01\14@132401 by casmith

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Hi,
  I am still looking for a used scope and maybe a logic analyser.
Anyway, I am looking for Assemblers and Compilers for the Motorola 68K
series of processors. Anyone know where I can get that. I check
Motorola's webpage no luck. I have Mplab 3.1. I want  to do a project
that involves linking a motorola 68k board with PIC based add on cards.
I need the free Assemblers. Thanks

Cary Smith

1998\01\15@080231 by Leon Heller

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In message <RemoveME34BCF9A9.AF7RemoveMEspamlynx.dac.neu.edu>, Cary Smith
<KILLspamcasmith.....spamKILLspamLYNX.DAC.NEU.EDU> writes
>Hi,
>   I am still looking for a used scope and maybe a logic analyser.
>Anyway, I am looking for Assemblers and Compilers for the Motorola 68K
>series of processors. Anyone know where I can get that. I check
>Motorola's webpage no luck. I have Mplab 3.1. I want  to do a project
>that involves linking a motorola 68k board with PIC based add on cards.
>I need the free Assemblers. Thanks
>
>Cary Smith

I recently wire-wrapped a little MC68008 system, partly out of nostalgia
(I did something similar years ago), but mainly because it was a good
way to get some experience of using a Lattice isp CPLD in a real
application. I'm using a PD cross-assembler and simulator I found on the
Simtel archive. They came with source code. I can't remember what the
file was called, but you should be able to find it without too many
problems. The assembler is rather limited (no macros, for instance) but
it works OK.


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See http://www.lfheller.demon.co.uk/dds.htm for details of my AD9850
DDS system - schematic and software.

1998\01\15@100832 by casmith

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HI,
       thanks for the reply. I am using the 68k series becuase that is what we
used in school
I want to get experience with microprocessors and pics and since I have
the 68k books from school
I figured why not. It has been hard gettting assemblers and compilers
though.

Cary

I will check out simtel
Thanks

Leon Heller wrote:
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'FREE I2C CODE (was Re: I2C Read and Write a byte f'
1998\01\23@213858 by Andy Kunz

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part 0 799 bytes
Here you all are.  Read and enjoy.  Send comments or suggestions for
improvement PRIVATE to spam_OUTmontanaspam_OUTspamRemoveMEfast.net

This works fine for other size chips, too.

It's all in HiTech C and was set up for a 20MHz processor.  BTW there are
other things on the I2C bus, hence the slow speed.

It all works, even the parts commented out (because I don't need them but
the linker doesn't exclude them).

Andy

Attachment converted: wonderland:i2c-src.zip (pZIP/pZIP) (0001122D)

==================================================================
Andy Kunz - Montana Design - 409 S 6th St - Phillipsburg, NJ 08865
         Hardware & Software for Industry & R/C Hobbies
       "Go fast, turn right, and keep the wet side down!"
==================================================================

1998\01\26@163643 by Andy Kunz

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The attached is feedback from Walter Banks (Bytecraft, the MPC compiler
people) regarding the posting last week of I2C source code in C.

<start quote>

 Your code will compile with minor changes on quite a few
compilers. I checked it on our MPC, C6805 and C8051 compilers
and I expect it would run on all of these processors.

The Byte Craft linker only includes those functions that
are actually called. Your code can be turned into a library
just by adding it to the MPCxx.lib files or compiled as a separate
library by adding #pragma library ... #pragma endlibrary
directives. These files can either be left as source or
compiled into an object library. Either way they can be used
in absolute mode or linked mode.

The only changes for your code to run on C6805/C8051 and
MPC beta 2.00 were to define the I/O ports in a headers and add

#define asm(a) #asm a

In the C6805/C8051 CLRWDT() had to be defined.

This should be all the changes that are needed to run
any Byte Craft Limited compiler with the C8051 feature
set.

MPC V1.20b was limited to 2 bytes of arguments so a macros
were written to pass arguments to those functions that
needed it. This compiler needs "nop" be changed to " nop" as
it treats #asm as a single line of asm source including labels
in column 1.

Thanks for posting your code.

Walter Banks

<end quote>

Thanks to Walter for letting us know just how simple the conversion to MPC is.

Andy

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Andy Kunz - Statistical Research, Inc. - Westfield, New Jersey USA
==================================================================


'Free Basic compiler?'
1998\02\05@035319 by Evgeni Nikolov
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Is there any free (or shareware) Basic Compiler for PICs

What are other options (I mean chargeble)?

Evgeni

1998\02\05@140334 by Don McKenzie

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Evgeni Nikolov wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> Is there any free (or shareware) Basic Compiler for PICs
>
> What are other options (I mean chargeble)?

Well, very cheap. Have a look at:
http://www.dontronics.com/siclub.html

Basic Stamp divided by four:
A BS-1/4 is a BS-1 in an 84 package with only 1/4 of the tokens of a
BS-1. All you need is the files, a PIC16C84, and a DT101 SimmStick.
You have to be able to burn the 84 with the BS-1/4 Basic Interpreter.
When this is done, you download the 64 basic tokens into the 84s
Internal EEPROM using the special downloader software via your RS-232
port on a DOS machine.

Many other versions of Basic Compilers are available including the top
of the range new "PRO" Picbasic from mEL at around $200USD.
http://www.dontronics.com/pbpro.html

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1998\02\10@120818 by rod.wilson

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Internet communications are not secure and therefore the Barclays Group does
not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message.

1998\02\10@131409 by Bob Blick

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Wow, that makes me feel so much better.

On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Rod Wilson wrote:

> Internet communications are not secure and therefore the Barclays Group does
> not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message.
>

1998\02\11@140412 by Robert McAtee

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I should think the contents of the message is quite secure since 99 percent
only showed a blank window. Jeeeeze wonder what's in there????? ==Mac==
At 09:53 AM 2/10/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Wow, that makes me feel so much better.
>
>On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Rod Wilson wrote:
>
>> Internet communications are not secure and therefore the Barclays Group
does
>> not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message.
>>
>

1998\02\12@194530 by richard skinner

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No, it really wasn't blank, but us spies just broke out out secret
Lucky Charms Decoder Ring and decyphered that highly classified
message.  But if I tell you any more, We'll have to kill you... <grin>

Richard Skinner
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http://home.att.net/~rwskinner

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'Free WebSpace for Free PIC Stuff'
1998\02\18@001653 by Allan Grant

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I offer 10 megabytes of WWW space for free to keep
Free PIC Stuff (Free programs) for free downloading
on my web site, located on VERY FAST WEB SERVER (it is
Hiway Technology in Florida).
URL for free stuff can be at http://www.iq-corp.com/FREE_PIC/
If somebody is interested please e-mail me at TakeThisOuTagrantspamTakeThisOuTiq-corp.com
Sincerely, Allan Grant
My hobbies are Intelligent form of life and PICs (:-)


'[OT] UV Erasers FOR FREE!!!'
1998\03\21@112508 by WIL REEDER
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> From: AllanJH <AllanJHspamspam_OUTAOL.COM>
> To: spamPICLIST@spam@spamMITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: [OT] UV Erasers
> Date: Friday, March 20, 1998 10:52 PM
>
> In a message dated 98-03-20 20:31:08 EST, you write:
>
> << ANy thoughts on a UV eraser?  Is the Walling ER-3 good?  Does it
handle 40
>  pin PICS, like the 16C74 or smaller?  I would like to spend $50 or
under.
>
>  Thanks
>
>  Rob >>
>
I have been using a uv bulb, recovered from a clothes dryer, for
several years now. The bulb is wired in series with a ballast
bulb recovered from the same dryer. The bulb & ballast bulb are
usually in a little plastic assy. in the center of the drum, and
can be used in the holder assy without modification, directly on
the 117v line with the timer & enclosure of your choice. A good
scrounger should be able to locate this stuff at the recycle depot
for free or close to it.

I can't recall what makes have them but they are designed to produce
ozone to sterilize the clothing or at least give them a fresh smell.

Mine does JW parts in less than 15 minutes with the bulb resting on
the window. The parts get warm but not hot enough to do any harm.

The usual safety warning re line voltages and these devices will burn
your eyes even from reflected uv. Also there is some quantity of
ozone produced so vent well!!!

regards

Wil Reeder
Vancouver, Canada
spam_OUTteachtechTakeThisOuTspamKILLspambc.sympatico.ca

1998\03\21@123540 by Morgan Olsson

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<< ANy thoughts on a UV eraser?

It just struck my mind: *cheap*!  (But does it work?)
Theese light tube starters, (not electrionic models): If I remember
correctly: in open state when powered they emit a little UV-radiation.

Maybe possible to cut the Glass bulb out, place it on the PIC window and
power it from the mains thru a power resistor? (To much power will make the
switch close...!)

...Wait a minute...
There: I«ve built it:
27k ohm 1W resistor worked O.K for "4-65W" igniter (230VAC mains)

But does it give UV?
I tried to check using paper-money (what is the english word?), to see the
serial number glow,  but either it is not UV, (or right kind UV), or
someone have cheated me...  ;-}

The visible part of light is orange-purple (not like discharge-type
indicator lamps) I wonder if the purple part extends to UV?  Maybe elder
types radiated UV, but not modern (health improvements)?.

I do not have any PIC to erase now, sorry.

PS
Another crazy idea: The ends of regular light tubes (where the white powder
is not on the inside) radiates UV?  (The white powder transforms the UV
>from mercury gas dischargings to visible.)  Radiation is probably low, and
difficilt to place PIC there, but anyway...
DS

DS2
Has anyone yet experimented with the hight electric field / high dv/dt
erasure method we discussed here earlier?
DS2

/Morgan
/  Morgan Olsson, MORGANS REGLERTEKNIK, SE-277 35 KIVIK, Sweden \
\  RemoveMEmrt@spam@spamspaminame.com, ph: +46 (0)414 70741; fax +46 (0)414 70331    /

1998\03\21@171429 by Harri Suomalainen

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>Another crazy idea: The ends of regular light tubes (where the white
powder
>is not on the inside) radiates UV?  (The white powder transforms the UV
>from mercury gas dischargings to visible.)  Radiation is probably low,
and
>difficilt to place PIC there, but anyway...

Unfortunately the required wavelenght (254nm and 184nm mostly for mercury)
are absorbed by the glass envelope of tube mostly. Same for the gas (argon
etc)
emitted uv in the range of interest.

However, mercury vapor lamps are *cheap* and have a separate glass
envelope
with fluorescent material. The tube itself inside the outer envelope is
quartz tube.
Once outer envelope is broken you have a very efficient uv radiator. Cheap
way
to get to high power levels (like 125W+) too! To reduce power use a
smaller
ballast than the lamp was intended for.

Beware, the quartz tube does get very hot. Some distance from chip to be
erased
is required.


--
Harri Suomalainen     RemoveMEhabaRemoveMEspamTakeThisOuTcc.hut.fi

We have phone numbers, why'd we need IP-numbers? - a person in a bus


'The PIC Source Book/Disk new price. Free!!'
1998\04\02@043632 by Don McKenzie
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The PIC Source Book/Disk new price. Free!!

A collection of ready-to-use assembly language routines
based on the instruction set of the BASIC Stamp ¨ single-board
computer by Scott Edwards Electronics.

Price:   Free
Support: Zero

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'A _FREE_ syntax-highlighting editor'
1998\05\19@001306 by Matthias Granberry
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I read the thread on multiedit, and yet did not know why anyone would really
pay $125 for a text editor.  Take a look at FTE, which is free, and will let
you create a pic'ified config setup, giving syntax highlighting for C, Java,
etc, etc...  It really is neat, but you need make or something to compile,
and it doesn't work terrbly under '95, but it works great under linux, os/2,
dos, and NT.  I'll have a config on the web in a few days, just as soon as
I am pleased with it.
--
Matthias Granberry
.....GonffTakeThisOuTspamEraseMEwindmillbbs.com
Caffeine, nicotine, and execution all serve as "normalizing agents".
  -- "Attention Deficit Disorder"

1998\05\19@040331 by Gordon Couger

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I have paid a lot more for editors in  my life. Right now I am using a free
on PFE (programmers file editor). If you are serious about programming
you will spend a lot of time using an editor. PFE is not everything I want
but it come close. If it had a spell checker it would do for most everything
I want and editor to do. I will look at FTE.

Speed beats caffeine by a mile as a normalizing agent.

Gordon

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1998\05\19@040339 by Alvin Tan

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Matthias Granberry wrote:

> I read the thread on multiedit, and yet did not know why anyone would
> really
> pay $125 for a text editor.  Take a look at FTE, which is free, and
> will let
> you create a pic'ified config setup, giving syntax highlighting for C,
> Java,
> etc, etc...  It really is neat, but you need make or something to
> compile,
> and it doesn't work terrbly under '95, but it works great under linux,
> os/2,
> dos, and NT.  I'll have a config on the web in a few days, just as
> soon as
> I am pleased with it.
> --
> Matthias Granberry
> STOPspamGonffEraseMEspamwindmillbbs.com
> Caffeine, nicotine, and execution all serve as "normalizing agents".
>    -- "Attention Deficit Disorder"

   Can you please share to everyone, where this software could be
downloaded from.  I am sure I am not the only one, who wish to get this
program.

   Thank You!


Alvin Tan

Alvin_TanspamBeGonespambc.sympatico.ca
WebPage: http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/TanFamily

1998\05\19@050737 by g.daniel.invent.design

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Matthias Granberry wrote:
>
> I read the thread on multiedit, and yet did not know why anyone would really
> pay $125 for a text editor.  Take a look at FTE, which is free, and will let
> you create a pic'ified config setup, giving syntax highlighting for C, Java,
> etc, etc...  It really is neat, but you need make or something to compile,
> and it doesn't work terrbly under '95, but it works great under linux, os/2,
> dos, and NT.  I'll have a config on the web in a few days, just as soon as
> I am pleased with it.
> --
> Matthias Granberry
> Gonff@spam@spamwindmillbbs.com
> Caffeine, nicotine, and execution all serve as "normalizing agents".
>    -- "Attention Deficit Disorder"

Does it run on win3.11 also ?

regards,
Graham Daniel

1998\05\19@202348 by Matthias Granberry

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       Alvin Tan <spam_OUTAlvin_TanspamspamBC.SYMPATICO.CA> writes:

>    Can you please share to everyone, where this software could be
> downloaded from.  I am sure I am not the only one, who wish to get this
> program.
>
>     Thank You!
>
>
> Alvin Tan
>
> Alvin_Tanspam_OUTspamRemoveMEbc.sympatico.ca
> WebPage: http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/TanFamily
>

Sorry, I have it right here.  http://ixtas.fri.uni-lj.sl/~markom/fte/
--
Matthias Granberry
spamGonffspamBeGonespamwindmillbbs.com
Caffeine, nicotine, and execution all serve as "normalizing agents".
  -- "Attention Deficit Disorder"

1998\05\19@232932 by Alvin Tan

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Matthias Granberry wrote:

> Sorry, I have it right here.  http://ixtas.fri.uni-lj.sl/~markom/fte/
>

I tried that link, but couldn't get connected.  Is that the right link?


Alvin Tan

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WebPage: http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/TanFamily

1998\05\20@074629 by Dr. Imre Bartfai

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Hi,

try to replace the country domain with '.si' instead of '.sl'

Imre

On Tue, 19 May 1998, Alvin Tan wrote:

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1998\05\20@141616 by Bruce Cannon

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And is Multiedit really that much better than MPLAB, which doesn't have to
be set up, and is free?

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1998\05\20@155338 by Andrew Warren

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Bruce Cannon <PICLISTspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU> wrote:

> And is Multiedit really that much better than MPLAB, which doesn't
> have to be set up, and is free?

Bruce:

EVERY editor is better than the one included with MPLAB.  Personally,
my favorite is CodeWright.

-Andy

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1998\05\20@155606 by Matthias Granberry

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       Alvin Tan <@spam@Alvin_Tanspamspamspam_OUTBC.SYMPATICO.CA> writes:

> Matthias Granberry wrote:
>
> > Sorry, I have it right here.  http://ixtas.fri.uni-lj.sl/~markom/fte/
> >
>
> I tried that link, but couldn't get connected.  Is that the right link?
>
>
> Alvin Tan
>
it should be .si; not my thread, is it?
--
Matthias Granberry
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Caffeine, nicotine, and execution all serve as "normalizing agents".
  -- "Attention Deficit Disorder"

1998\05\20@192417 by William Chops Westfield

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Well, as long as we're talking about editors, I'll recomend "EMACS" and
the varients thereof.  It used to be that the big advantage of emacs was
that it was available for everything - Tops10, tops20, unix, VMS, CPM,
MSDOS, HP150, MAC, and so on.  No having "keyboard stutter" as you moved
from system to system.  Nowdays, evolution has done away with most of
those systems, although I suppose it is still relatively rare to find
an editor that runs on both unix and windows.  The "grandpappy" GNU
EMACS comes with billions of modes and special language support.  It and
most of the popular subset implementations are user-extensible using a
lisp-like language.

The things I find most useful (aside from the programmability) include
keyboard macros and multi-file support in the form of "tags" (type a
function name and pop over to the file and location of that function),
and the automatic indentation/etc for language support...

EMACS was like THE original freeware product.  It and most of its clones
are freeware, and most are available with full source code.

BillW

'[OT!] Re: A _FREE_ syntax-highlighting editor (thr'
1998\05\21@015605 by Craig Lee

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>EMACS was like THE original freeware product.Ê It and most of its clones
>are freeware, and most are available with full source code.

You wouldn't be LIKE from Southern California or something would ya dude?
Ê

I am another unlikely supporter of EMACS.

I learned it a few years ago back when I was still working for Japan Radio
Co.
because it was necessary to port much code back and forth between our
homebrew test database on unix and my test applications under DOS.Ê Since my

tendency is to do everything as efficiently as possible(some call this
hacking, I
don't know why....), I found it efficient to use just the one editor.Ê Also,
EMACS
doesn't just automatically screw with the carraige (sp?, not a father)
return line feed characters like most dos or windows editors do, which is a
real pain when your unix os is trying to execute your scripts after they've
went through the dos editor!

..... then again, I was a big fan of Wordstar... and am really ticked at
Windows 95 which forces me to use the mouse more often than I care too.

Craig "Interfacing my brain" Lee
Ê

1998\05\21@030318 by Dennis Plunkett

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Ah, yes editors, many thoughts come to mind. I agree with the EMACS (I have
to use UMACS for the OS9 type stuff I do). Call be old fashioned, but I do
like the Wordstar type keyboard commands (CTRL KB - CTRL KK CTRL KY, are
nothing like old friends), there is too much of that mouse stuff involved in
todays editors (Give me Nortons editor anyday!). A simple question, how much
time is waisted with the point and click drag a