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1998\11\05@125427 by Paul Dartanian

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Warning of virus!!!!

Please do not open mails with the titel "GET MORE MONEY" under no
circumstances!!! It will delete all things on your computer!!!
Please tell as much people as possible, especially the ones that have
Internet! This is a very bad virus and it is not known a lot about it.
This is a message of MICROSOFT from last week!
Also do not look at mails with the titel "RETURNED OR UNABLE TO
DELIVER".
This virus will go into your "computer connection parts" an will make
them
useless!!! A message from AOL said, that it is a very dangerous virus
an
there is no help against it yet.
Please tell all your e-mail friends this immediately and take that
serious!!!


Best Regards

Paul Dartanian

1998\11\05@131108 by WF AUTOMACAO

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Paul Dartanian wrote:
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:)

1998\11\05@131315 by Peter L. Peres

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Could you people please stop spamming the piclist with BS raised to the
Nth power ? This is a troll known since the days when email was delivered
by runner and dove ;)

Peter

1998\11\05@131710 by Dave VanHorn

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Paul Dartanian wrote:
>
> Warning of virus!!!!


The only virus you can get in email, is virus warnings that make you
think you can get a virus in email.

1998\11\05@132313 by Eric Schlaepfer

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Sigh...

No, this is just not true. Contrary to popular opinion, viruses _cannot_ be
activated by opening an email. Period. I'd like to see any virus try to get
into my 'computer connection parts.' (Though I did hear of a virus that
burned out MDA fixed frequency moniters by reprogramming the refresh rates
on the MDA card.)


Eric


{Original Message removed}

1998\11\05@140500 by WF AUTOMACAO

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Eric Schlaepfer wrote:
>
> Sigh...
>
> No, this is just not true. Contrary to popular opinion, viruses _cannot_ be
> activated by opening an email. Period. I'd like to see any virus try to get
> into my 'computer connection parts.' (Though I did hear of a virus that
> burned out MDA fixed frequency moniters by reprogramming the refresh rates
> on the MDA card.)
>
> Eric
>
> {Original Message removed}

1998\11\05@140842 by Peter L. Peres

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On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Dave VanHorn wrote:

> Paul Dartanian wrote:
> >
> > Warning of virus!!!!
>
> The only virus you can get in email, is virus warnings that make you
> think you can get a virus in email.

This is not necessarily true. I'm afraid. Just for laughs I ran strings on
a (now so popular on this list ;() Microsoft TNEF email attachement and yo
behold it said something about a *.dll file. I hope that it was the
generator signature but I would not know, since I can't compare to the
program source ;).

This is not to imply anything, but I use Linux online anyway, so I
couldn't care less ;)

Peter

1998\11\05@141712 by Peter L. Peres

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On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Eric Schlaepfer wrote:

> Sigh...
>
> No, this is just not true. Contrary to popular opinion, viruses _cannot_ be
> activated by opening an email. Period. I'd like to see any virus try to get

a. There are viruses that exploit certain weaknesses of applications that
were not audited for online use. Most complex attachements are in this
category, which includes Word macro viruses and many other things. These
are very dangerous on click-happy people's computers because they
configure their apps to open automatically with the opening of the message
on certain OS (?) es. This mostly affects the Microsoft OS users whenever
there is a new detected bug in one of the many applications they use.

b. There are exploits that use certain weaknesses in OSs and MTAs to gain
shell access etc by causing buffer overruns in the kernel or in a binary
that runs with superuser privileges. This kind of attack is on the decline
because all the holes were plugged during the last 20 years or so of
online use of Unix.

> into my 'computer connection parts.' (Though I did hear of a virus that
> burned out MDA fixed frequency moniters by reprogramming the refresh rates
> on the MDA card.)

Me too. It's not a story. Lost a monitor to it ;( The flyback developed a
bulge on the side, after having been cooked for a few days and it was
quite dead.

Peter

1998\11\05@163029 by Harold Hallikainen

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On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:09:21 -0800 WF AUTOMACAO <spam_OUTwfTakeThisOuTspamAMBIENTE.COM.BR>
writes:
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       I like the technical terms such as "computer connection parts",
which certainly gives me a sense of validity of the message!  Also,
saying Microsoft and AOL said something without giving a direct quote and
the URL of the message from Microsoft or AOL further makes the claim look
suspect.
       Why do people start these things?

Harold


Harold Hallikainen
.....haroldKILLspamspam@spam@hallikainen.com
Hallikainen & Friends, Inc.
See the FCC Rules at http://hallikainen.com/FccRules and comments filed
in LPFM proceeding at http://hallikainen.com/lpfm

Harold Hallikainen
haroldspamKILLspamhallikainen.com
Hallikainen & Friends, Inc.
See the FCC Rules at http://hallikainen.com/FccRules and comments filed
in LPFM proceeding at http://hallikainen.com/lpfm

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1998\11\05@164950 by Peter L. Peres

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On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Harold Hallikainen wrote:

>         I like the technical terms such as "computer connection parts",
> which certainly gives me a sense of validity of the message!  Also,
> saying Microsoft and AOL said something without giving a direct quote and
> the URL of the message from Microsoft or AOL further makes the claim look
> suspect.
>         Why do people start these things?

Why because it's such fun to see all those people busying themselves to
answer / contradict / confirm / explain it all over again. It is one of
the most successfull and long-lasting trolls available on the Internet
imnvwiho ;)

Peter

PS: imnvwiho == in my not very well informed humble opinion

PS2: I hope that "computer connection parts" does not actually refer to
someone's flash BIOS, just in case. Ouch.

1998\11\05@173454 by Roger Morella

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Paul Dartanian wrote:

> Warning of virus!!!!
>
> Please do not open mails with the titel "GET MORE MONEY" ....

Actually... If everyone ignored those e'mails that promise MONEY MONEY
MONEY in there subject lines, maybe the senders would stop wasting their
time.  Unfortunately, I think that there must be a certain amount of
morons who actually open the e'mail in the first place, not to mention
those that fall for the scam.  It just goes to show you.  Just cuz ya own
a computer, don't mean ya actually got any smarts. :)

(sorry.. sometimes you see a bandwagon and you just have to hitch a ride
;)

Roger

1998\11\06@213216 by Chris Mayhew

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Dave VanHorn wrote:
>
> Paul Dartanian wrote:
> >
> > Warning of virus!!!!
>
> The only virus you can get in email, is virus warnings that make you
> think you can get a virus in email.


Yes, but also email attachments that have .exe files as the attachment
right?.......but I take your point

1998\11\07@142722 by Mitchell D. Miller

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-- Mitch

------------------------------------
Mitch Miller, Roseville, CA
.....mitchmKILLspamspam.....ns.net
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{Original Message removed}

1998\11\07@221220 by bcannon

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What I think people should do is check here:
http://www.datafellows.com/news/hoax/
BEFORE sending a warning to ANYONE.

Bruce Cannon
Systems Designer
Style Management Systems
1228 Ceres ST
Crockett CA 94525
(510) 787-6870

EraseMEbcannonspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTjps.net
http://www.jps.net/bcannon

Remember: electronics is changing your world...for good!

{Original Message removed}

1998\11\20@070836 by Roger Morella

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Paul Dartanian wrote:

> Warning of virus!!!!
>
> Please do not open mails with the titel "GET MORE MONEY" ....

Actually... If everyone ignored those e'mails that promise MONEY MONEY
MONEY in there subject lines, maybe the senders would stop wasting their
time.  Unfortunately, I think that there must be a certain amount of
morons who actually open the e'mail in the first place, not to mention
those that fall for the scam.  It just goes to show you.  Just cuz ya own
a computer, don't mean ya actually got any smarts. :)

(sorry.. sometimes you see a bandwagon and you just have to hitch a ride
;)

Roger

1998\11\20@070900 by Peter L. Peres

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On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Harold Hallikainen wrote:

>         I like the technical terms such as "computer connection parts",
> which certainly gives me a sense of validity of the message!  Also,
> saying Microsoft and AOL said something without giving a direct quote and
> the URL of the message from Microsoft or AOL further makes the claim look
> suspect.
>         Why do people start these things?

Why because it's such fun to see all those people busying themselves to
answer / contradict / confirm / explain it all over again. It is one of
the most successfull and long-lasting trolls available on the Internet
imnvwiho ;)

Peter

PS: imnvwiho == in my not very well informed humble opinion

PS2: I hope that "computer connection parts" does not actually refer to
someone's flash BIOS, just in case. Ouch.

1998\11\20@071021 by Harold Hallikainen

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On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:09:21 -0800 WF AUTOMACAO <wfspamspam_OUTAMBIENTE.COM.BR>
writes:
{Quote hidden}

       I like the technical terms such as "computer connection parts",
which certainly gives me a sense of validity of the message!  Also,
saying Microsoft and AOL said something without giving a direct quote and
the URL of the message from Microsoft or AOL further makes the claim look
suspect.
       Why do people start these things?

Harold


Harold Hallikainen
@spam@haroldKILLspamspamhallikainen.com
Hallikainen & Friends, Inc.
See the FCC Rules at http://hallikainen.com/FccRules and comments filed
in LPFM proceeding at http://hallikainen.com/lpfm

Harold Hallikainen
KILLspamharoldKILLspamspamhallikainen.com
Hallikainen & Friends, Inc.
See the FCC Rules at http://hallikainen.com/FccRules and comments filed
in LPFM proceeding at http://hallikainen.com/lpfm

___________________________________________________________________
You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

1998\11\20@071432 by Peter L. Peres

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On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Eric Schlaepfer wrote:

> Sigh...
>
> No, this is just not true. Contrary to popular opinion, viruses _cannot_ be
> activated by opening an email. Period. I'd like to see any virus try to get

a. There are viruses that exploit certain weaknesses of applications that
were not audited for online use. Most complex attachements are in this
category, which includes Word macro viruses and many other things. These
are very dangerous on click-happy people's computers because they
configure their apps to open automatically with the opening of the message
on certain OS (?) es. This mostly affects the Microsoft OS users whenever
there is a new detected bug in one of the many applications they use.

b. There are exploits that use certain weaknesses in OSs and MTAs to gain
shell access etc by causing buffer overruns in the kernel or in a binary
that runs with superuser privileges. This kind of attack is on the decline
because all the holes were plugged during the last 20 years or so of
online use of Unix.

> into my 'computer connection parts.' (Though I did hear of a virus that
> burned out MDA fixed frequency moniters by reprogramming the refresh rates
> on the MDA card.)

Me too. It's not a story. Lost a monitor to it ;( The flyback developed a
bulge on the side, after having been cooked for a few days and it was
quite dead.

Peter

1998\11\20@071437 by WF AUTOMACAO

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Eric Schlaepfer wrote:
>
> Sigh...
>
> No, this is just not true. Contrary to popular opinion, viruses _cannot_ be
> activated by opening an email. Period. I'd like to see any virus try to get
> into my 'computer connection parts.' (Though I did hear of a virus that
> burned out MDA fixed frequency moniters by reprogramming the refresh rates
> on the MDA card.)
>
> Eric
>
> {Original Message removed}

1998\11\20@071447 by Peter L. Peres

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On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Dave VanHorn wrote:

> Paul Dartanian wrote:
> >
> > Warning of virus!!!!
>
> The only virus you can get in email, is virus warnings that make you
> think you can get a virus in email.

This is not necessarily true. I'm afraid. Just for laughs I ran strings on
a (now so popular on this list ;() Microsoft TNEF email attachement and yo
behold it said something about a *.dll file. I hope that it was the
generator signature but I would not know, since I can't compare to the
program source ;).

This is not to imply anything, but I use Linux online anyway, so I
couldn't care less ;)

Peter

1998\11\20@072720 by Eric Schlaepfer

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Sigh...

No, this is just not true. Contrary to popular opinion, viruses _cannot_ be
activated by opening an email. Period. I'd like to see any virus try to get
into my 'computer connection parts.' (Though I did hear of a virus that
burned out MDA fixed frequency moniters by reprogramming the refresh rates
on the MDA card.)


Eric


{Original Message removed}

1998\11\20@072727 by Dave VanHorn

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Paul Dartanian wrote:
>
> Warning of virus!!!!


The only virus you can get in email, is virus warnings that make you
think you can get a virus in email.

1998\11\20@072730 by Paul Dartanian

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Warning of virus!!!!

Please do not open mails with the titel "GET MORE MONEY" under no
circumstances!!! It will delete all things on your computer!!!
Please tell as much people as possible, especially the ones that have
Internet! This is a very bad virus and it is not known a lot about it.
This is a message of MICROSOFT from last week!
Also do not look at mails with the titel "RETURNED OR UNABLE TO
DELIVER".
This virus will go into your "computer connection parts" an will make
them
useless!!! A message from AOL said, that it is a very dangerous virus
an
there is no help against it yet.
Please tell all your e-mail friends this immediately and take that
serious!!!


Best Regards

Paul Dartanian

1998\11\20@072741 by Peter L. Peres

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Could you people please stop spamming the piclist with BS raised to the
Nth power ? This is a troll known since the days when email was delivered
by runner and dove ;)

Peter

1998\11\20@072745 by WF AUTOMACAO

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Paul Dartanian wrote:
{Quote hidden}

:)

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