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'The Lord is risen!'
1999\04\03@080537 by Russell McMahon

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I sat down to try to say something just possibly profound about
Easter, Serbs and Kosovars, hurts remembered over hundreds and
hundreds of years, killing, peace on earth, the man of sorrows,
loving our neighbour as we love ourselves, where this all fits
into our generally comfortable and technologically pampered
world and much more.

Nothing I could think of exceeded the simple profoundness of the
ancient Easter salutation -


           The Lord is Risen!


and its response


           He is risen indeed!


Pray for the world, and remember the so many millions of people in
worse circumstances than us. May God bless you all this Easter.


in love



           Russell McMahon

1999\04\03@092251 by Eaejrphd

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Amen!! :-)

1999\04\03@093950 by llgren

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arr arr


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From: Russell McMahon <spam_OUTapptechTakeThisOuTspamCLEAR.NET.NZ>
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Sent: Saturday, April 03, 1999 2:44 PM
Subject: The Lord is risen!


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1999\04\03@130114 by Eaejrphd

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I am truly sorry you don't know our Lord!  It is your loss.  Maybe you should
see what you are missing by not knowing Him?  As for "arr arr," Professing to
be wise they became as fools.....

Ed

1999\04\03@130527 by Dave VanHorn
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FYI, freedom of religion also implies freedom FROM religion.
Take it somewhere else.

1999\04\03@134307 by andrew abken

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  Yes he is!:)

    Andrew



--- Russell McMahon <apptechspamKILLspamCLEAR.NET.NZ> wrote:


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1999\04\03@142124 by Eaejrphd

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As I stated this morning, "AMEN!", for all of us!!

Ed

This being a wonderful message, let the projects and robots resume!!!  :-)
Go, Robots.  Yeah! or is it Doh?

1999\04\03@191032 by Peter Williamson

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I suppose this is sort of relevant to the list. After all the PIC is
God's own microcontroller.

Russell McMahon wrote:
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1999\04\03@215941 by Roger Shane

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You're saying "from" and "of" are synonamous?!  Please don't offer me/us any cod
e ;-))

Regards/Roger, in Bangkok...biding time for a much better home
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1999\04\04@035212 by Ron Fial

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McMahon, please cut the off topic crap.  This mailbox is for information
about PIC applications.  If the list owner is awake, can't he ban this guy
for starting threads he knows will get tons of flame responses, all of them
off topic.

Ron Fial

1999\04\04@044314 by g.daniel.invent.design

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Hey, I could start off an Athiesm thread here, but I somehow suspect
that a large group of programmers/inventors is (in general) happy to
take direct credit for their own hard work, whether it be "creation" of
microcontrolers, re-engineering of the mammalian nervous system or
simple charge by line programming.

Let this non PIC thread die a natural death. (unless holey arguments
raise it again on the Monday)

Regards,
Graham Daniel

Peter Williamson wrote:
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> I suppose this is sort of relevant to the list. After all the PIC is
> God's own microcontroller.

1999\04\04@115607 by Harold Hallikainen

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>The Lord is risen!

       I guess the watchdog timer is working!


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1999\04\04@134733 by Dave VanHorn

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>You're saying "from" and "of" are synonamous?!  Please don't offer
me/us any code ;-))


No, but in this case "freedom of", imho, implies also "freedom from"
as a valid position.

1999\04\04@225403 by Sean Breheny

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I agree that this isn't that place for an extended discussion about
religion,but what is so bad about one little message? Judging from the
number of supportive responses,it seems that quite a few piclisters liked
Russell's message of Easter greeting.

Nobody is forcing religion on you by simply expressing their opinion.

Sean

At 01:04 PM 4/3/99 -0500, you wrote:
>FYI, freedom of religion also implies freedom FROM religion.
>Take it somewhere else.
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1999\04\04@230647 by list

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I just thank the Lord that we still have people that can express themselves
about the important things.
Russell's message of Easter greeting. The Lord is risen!
Lets all go to work tomorrow knowing that our sins are forgiven. Jesus is
risen.

1999\04\05@073251 by Tjaart van der Walt

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Sean Breheny wrote:
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> I agree that this isn't that place for an extended discussion about
> religion,but what is so bad about one little message? Judging from the
> number of supportive responses,it seems that quite a few piclisters liked
> Russell's message of Easter greeting.
>
> Nobody is forcing religion on you by simply expressing their opinion.

Sure. But maybe I should also start stating my opinion of
MacDonald's, Microsoft...but hey, wait that would be OT,
now wouldn't it? In fact, it shouldn't even be on the list.

Russel can shout out his beliefs in in privacy, start a new
cult, tatoo himself with pink hearts for all I care, but this
list is not a promotional platform for religious/superstitous
beliefs.

I am also sure that he should have known that it would have
ellicited such a response. Call it a jesus-trawl.

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1999\04\05@103820 by mgjurenka

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Thank the lord for the ability to filter out messages from [OT] discussions.
I have found it helpful to use the filter and bypass messages from the
religious nut's on this site. Wow, I may  not get any emails anymore at this
rate!

Sorry for another off topic. The next Jesus message I read from this list,
expect to get my 'unsubscribe' email.

1999\04\05@105108 by Andy Kunz

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At 01:04 PM 4/3/99 -0500, you wrote:
>FYI, freedom of religion also implies freedom FROM religion.
>Take it somewhere else.

Move it there yourself with your delete key.

Andy

1999\04\05@114557 by Mark Willis

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People, I have tried to be very calm & reasonable here.  I posted last
night/early this AM, clearly and calmly, stating my take on this: (One
post on this sort of topic = OK occasional post, don't abuse it; "me
too" or disagreeing replies, or fights, posted to the whole list
resulting from same = NOT ACCEPTABLE i.e. noise.)

 Perhaps the original post "should have" been posted as OT, but 1579
more posts griping about same to the whole list, 795 posts agreeing with
it, 945 posts disagreeing with it, 127 posts professing that a different
religion is better, ETC. ETC., just plain DO NOT BELONG on the PICList.
We can survive an occasional post we disagree with, all the rest that
has come after that just doesn't belong.

 I not only have a "Delete" key, but also a "Delete User" ability.  As
Jory has those & a "Smite Mark" key, I've been pretty gentle and just
said what I feel - and discussed it even when we have differences of
opinion, as a few will agree.  I haven't deleted anyone - YET - who
didn't ask me to delete them (as in old unreachable accounts), and I'd
-prefer- to keep it that way, at the same time I know that this is
getting QUITE ridiculous - there's NO need for this garbage on this
list.

 End this thread.  Enough is enough, we ARE all adults here, we CAN and
WILL, "agree to disagree".  I don't want to feel pushed into being a
tyrant, I'd just as soon talk, ADULT TO ADULT, to all of you on the
list, and feel we can all get along with respect, despite the occasional
- or frequent - misunderstanding.  I'll know whether you can return said
respect, to the rest of the list if not to myself, or not.

 Mark

1999\04\06@013236 by kypros.vassiliou

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mgjurenka wrote:
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> Thank the lord for the ability to filter out messages from [OT] discussions.
> I have found it helpful to use the filter and bypass messages from the
> religious nut's on this site. Wow, I may  not get any emails anymore at this
> rate!
>
> Sorry for another off topic. The next Jesus message I read from this list,
> expect to get my 'unsubscribe' email.
Hi Everybody,
I am really supprised by the fact that all of you saw the original
message and commend only about The Lord. Has anybody noticed that it
talks about the poor Servian people? I do not think so you've filtered
this out.
Do you know how is the situation there? No.... You are descusing about
God now which is more important.

Regards
Kypros

P.S. After Yugoslavia is my countrys turn. (as many politicians said)

1999\04\06@024938 by Kevin Fisk

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OK, I've hesitated weighing in on  this fray. I don't like continually
listening to OT's of complete irrelevance but I have to comment on this. I
sympathize with the people who are affected by what is happening in
Yugoslavia. I respect peoples rights to practice a/any religion, but......

This is not the place for either of those discussions!

Please, can we get on with PIC'ing.......

Cheers,

Kevin

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1999\04\06@032509 by Pasi T Mustalahti

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On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, list wrote:

> I just thank the Lord that we still have people that can express themselves
> about the important things.
> Russell's message of Easter greeting. The Lord is risen!
> Lets all go to work tomorrow knowing that our sins are forgiven. Jesus is
> risen.


PTM: You are offending my religious mind !
I'll hit you, when I meet you !


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1999\04\06@064957 by Peter Williamson

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Yup, this just about sums up your tolerant and caring religion. If
someone dosen't have the same beliefs as you just shoot 'em or better
still torture them first, in God's name of course, and then shoot 'em.

Let's get back to the the PIC stuff.

Pasi T Mustalahti wrote:
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1999\04\06@101545 by Ryan Pogge

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you will hit him?
thats great, I hope he pulls a gun on you too...
dumb %$#@ ... jeez


> > I just thank the Lord that we still have people that can
express themselves
> > about the important things.
> > Russell's message of Easter greeting. The Lord is risen!
> > Lets all go to work tomorrow knowing that our sins are
forgiven. Jesus is
> > risen.
>
>
> PTM: You are offending my religious mind !
> I'll hit you, when I meet you !
>
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1999\04\08@020950 by Martin Mayr

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Hi there,

what's going on here. This topics are interesting, but this is the
PICLIST and nothing else...

This wastes time and money of most of us!!

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