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2000\04\14@083240 by Martin SchŠfer

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Hello,

I'm used to program in en editor with syntax highlighting. But in MPLAB I
see no such
feature. Is it possible to call an editor of my choice from  MPLAB-IDE.

Martin


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2000\04\14@102649 by Andrew Warren

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Martin SchŠfer <.....PICLISTKILLspamspam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU> wrote:

> I'm used to program in en editor with syntax highlighting. But in
> MPLAB I see no such feature. Is it possible to call an editor of my
> choice from  MPLAB-IDE.

Martin:

Unfortunately, no; MPLAB is tightly integrated with its built-in
editor, and you can't replace it with your own.

Worse, MPLAB isn't smart enough to know when you've modified its
loaded source-code files in another editor... So if you DO switch
back and forth between MPLAB and another editor, you should close
your MPLAB project before switching to your editor, then re-open it
when you switch back.

-Andy


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2000\04\14@105426 by Martin SchŠfer

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Andrew Warren wrote:

> Unfortunately, no; MPLAB is tightly integrated with its built-in
> editor, and you can't replace it with your own.

> Worse, MPLAB isn't smart enough to know when you've modified its
> loaded source-code files in another editor... So if you DO switch
> back and forth between MPLAB and another editor, you should close
> your MPLAB project before switching to your editor, then re-open it
> when you switch back.

Hi Andy,

but perhaps there will be a version 5.FUTURE.00 from MPLAB :-) that does
syntax highlighting. Is there any list for wishes the people from Microchip
are reading. Or does anyone from Microchip read this mailing list for next
generation ideas?

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2000\04\14@112549 by Matt Bonner

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Martin SchŠfer wrote:
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> Hello,
>
> I'm used to program in en editor with syntax highlighting. But in MPLAB I
> see no such
> feature. Is it possible to call an editor of my choice from  MPLAB-IDE.

Not possible, but you can do the reverse - I call MPLAB from
UltraEdit32 (a US $30 shareware program).

--Matt

2000\04\14@122556 by M. Adam Davis

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No, you can't call and editor of your own choice from MPLAB.  You can use
another syntax highlighting editor, and call your assembler and programming
software from it (most generic syntax highlighting editors will call external
programs), and therefore create your own editing environment.

I wish Microchip would either open MPLAB up, or make it so one could extend it
further (add a dll for my own programmer, or editor, etc)

-Adam

Martin Schdfer wrote:
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2000\04\14@142936 by Darrel Johansen

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The next version of MPLAB will be a full 32-bit version.  It is in the
design stage now, and is approximately one year away from the expected
release date.  One of the most requested features we get is for editor
syntax highlighting, followed by more detailed high level language
debugging features.  We plan to do both in that release.  We'd like to be
able to support just about any editor, but I don't know if that's feasible.

My question to the PICLIST community:  What editor would you like to use
with MPLAB?

Darrel Johansen
Systems Software Manager
Microchip Technology, Inc.

2000\04\14@144639 by Andrew Kunz

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CODE WRIGHT!!!

Simply the best!

Andy










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The next version of MPLAB will be a full 32-bit version.  It is in the
design stage now, and is approximately one year away from the expected
release date.  One of the most requested features we get is for editor
syntax highlighting, followed by more detailed high level language
debugging features.  We plan to do both in that release.  We'd like to be
able to support just about any editor, but I don't know if that's feasible.

My question to the PICLIST community:  What editor would you like to use
with MPLAB?

Darrel Johansen
Systems Software Manager
Microchip Technology, Inc.

2000\04\14@144642 by Chris Eddy

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>My question to the PICLIST community:  What editor would you like to use
>with MPLAB?

>Darrel Johansen

That is simple.  CodeWright.
Were there any other contenders?

Albeit that is for the fellows who can dish out the sub $1K price tag, but
there are many others who are not funded as such.  I personally use the MPLAB
editor extensively (only got CodeWright some half year ago), and most people
can easily live with the quality of it.  I have used editors in other IDE's
which were absolutely abominable (Cos__ic comes to mind) and as such MPLAB has
always been a very solid editor for the money ($0).  Some people take basic
Word style cut copy paste functions for granted, as if all windows programs get
that inherently, but that is not always the case.

Many of us live with the tools for years on end, and Codewright is cool because
over time you learn more and more about the features.  The first time you
select a few pages of code and shift the entire block in or out a number of
tabs, you will be a true believer.

Also, I have 5 emulators, three assemblers, five compilers, and CodeWright to
boot.  I switch job to job on a bi-daily basis, and keep cursing myself when I
try to edit with the same keystrokes from another product.  Try mixing MPLAB
and TurboC in DOS.  The more uniformity I have between editors, the faster I
can forget the differences and get my job done.  Please do not make up new
basic editing key features for the fun of it.

Chris Eddy
Pioneer Microsystems, Inc.

2000\04\14@145302 by James Paul

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Darrell,

I for one would like to voice my opinion about you asking the
PICLIST community for their input regarding the next release
of MPLAB.  I think this is GREAT.  Ask the people that use
your product what it should and shouldn't do.  A lot of other
companies could do well to take this same initiative.

To answer your question, as for me, I'm satisfied with the
current editor MPLAB uses.  But, I'm not a professional
programmer.  I program mostly for my own hobby projects,
but I do implement PIC's in projects for my employer when
I can.  In one project alone for my employer, I got 3 PIC's
implemented in different aspects of the project.  But it was
shelved a couple of months ago until market conditions get a
little better.  Anyway, I used MPLAB in conjunction with the
ICD I own to develop the software I used in the above mentioned
project for work.  I had no problems whatsoever.

For a professional programmer that is used to using a different
editor, they may view that as a problem.  Because they are
used to using the one they are familiar with, they would like
to continue using that same editor even with new programming
tools.  So it would be nice to be able to use this editor with
MPLAB, what ever editor that may be.

In summary:

1.  I'm satisfied with the current editor included with MPLAB.

2.  I'm not a professional programmer.

3.  Most of my projects are relatively small, so I don't need
    a lot of bells and whistles.

4.  I appreciate the fact that you asked me for my input
    regarding the next release of MPLAB.  This is how great
    products are made.  By asking the people that are expected
    to use them.

5.  I can't wait for this new release to come out.


                                    Thanks and Regards,

                                           Jim






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> My question to the PICLIST community:  What editor would you
> like to use
> with MPLAB?
>
> Darrel Johansen
> Systems Software Manager
> Microchip Technology, Inc.

My favorite commercial editor is Multi-Edit.  My favorite free editor is JFE
(Jan's File Editor).

What ever editor is used, I'd like to see column blocking.

-Mike

2000\04\14@145710 by Andrew Kunz

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I believe it may be possible to get a license to embed a "free" version of
CodeWright into MPLAB for those who do not have it, but for those who do it
would automatically use the real product.

If that were the case, I actually might start to think about using MPLAB instead
of everything else I use.

Another feature - make it extensible/modular so that if we can add our own
things into the debugger framework, or remove things we don't use.

Andy









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>My question to the PICLIST community:  What editor would you like to use
>with MPLAB?

>Darrel Johansen

That is simple.  CodeWright.
Were there any other contenders?

Albeit that is for the fellows who can dish out the sub $1K price tag, but
there are many others who are not funded as such.  I personally use the MPLAB
editor extensively (only got CodeWright some half year ago), and most people
can easily live with the quality of it.  I have used editors in other IDE's
which were absolutely abominable (Cos__ic comes to mind) and as such MPLAB has
always been a very solid editor for the money ($0).  Some people take basic
Word style cut copy paste functions for granted, as if all windows programs get
that inherently, but that is not always the case.

Many of us live with the tools for years on end, and Codewright is cool because
over time you learn more and more about the features.  The first time you
select a few pages of code and shift the entire block in or out a number of
tabs, you will be a true believer.

Also, I have 5 emulators, three assemblers, five compilers, and CodeWright to
boot.  I switch job to job on a bi-daily basis, and keep cursing myself when I
try to edit with the same keystrokes from another product.  Try mixing MPLAB
and TurboC in DOS.  The more uniformity I have between editors, the faster I
can forget the differences and get my job done.  Please do not make up new
basic editing key features for the fun of it.

Chris Eddy
Pioneer Microsystems, Inc.

2000\04\14@152030 by Craig Lee

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I really don't mind the MPLAB editor.

There are two features I'd like added to make it work with my source
control system, CS-RCS.

I think Andy already mentioned the first one; the ability of MPLAB to
detect that the file in the editor has been changed by some other
program.  If I check a file into source control, and the keywords are
filled in, I have to close the file and re-open it again to see this.

Secondly, there is no ability for me to add source control utilities
to the MPLAB toolbar or drop down menus.  I can do this using Borland
C's IDE, and it works slick.

I'd also like the ability to use Picstart Plus without having to
startup MPLAB.

...and on everybodies wish lish, make a Linux version!

Regards,

Craig



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2000\04\14@153243 by Mark Skeels

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I vote for Visual SlickEdit.


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> >My question to the PICLIST community:  What editor would you like to use
> >with MPLAB?
>
> >Darrel Johansen
>
> That is simple.  CodeWright.
> Were there any other contenders?
>
> Albeit that is for the fellows who can dish out the sub $1K price tag, but
> there are many others who are not funded as such.  I personally use the
MPLAB
> editor extensively (only got CodeWright some half year ago), and most
people
> can easily live with the quality of it.  I have used editors in other
IDE's
> which were absolutely abominable (Cos__ic comes to mind) and as such MPLAB
has
> always been a very solid editor for the money ($0).  Some people take
basic
> Word style cut copy paste functions for granted, as if all windows
programs get
> that inherently, but that is not always the case.
>
> Many of us live with the tools for years on end, and Codewright is cool
because
> over time you learn more and more about the features.  The first time you
> select a few pages of code and shift the entire block in or out a number
of
> tabs, you will be a true believer.
>
> Also, I have 5 emulators, three assemblers, five compilers, and CodeWright
to
> boot.  I switch job to job on a bi-daily basis, and keep cursing myself
when I
> try to edit with the same keystrokes from another product.  Try mixing
MPLAB
> and TurboC in DOS.  The more uniformity I have between editors, the faster
I
> can forget the differences and get my job done.  Please do not make up new
> basic editing key features for the fun of it.
>
> Chris Eddy
> Pioneer Microsystems, Inc.
>

2000\04\14@155139 by Matt Bonner

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Darrel Johansen wrote:
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> My question to the PICLIST community:  What editor would you like to use
> with MPLAB?

UltraEdit-32
 http://www.ultraedit.com

--Matt

2000\04\14@162509 by Peter Schultz

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UltraEdit-32 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just because of function list window...
Peter

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2000\04\14@163526 by Craig Lee

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AND it integrated with CR-RCS!!!

Craig

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Darrel Johansen wrote:
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> My question to the PICLIST community:  What editor would you like to use
> with MPLAB?

UltraEdit-32
 http://www.ultraedit.com

--Matt

2000\04\14@165018 by Jerry Merrill

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Darrel:

As shown by the responses, an editor is a rather 'personal choice' kind of
thing.  We addressed this in TDE by NOT taking sides.  We let the end user
use any editor they prefer (or the default we provide).  Instead of
attempting to control or integrate a specific editor into our IDE, we made
the IDE assume the task of managing file coherency.  TDE watches the files
in its project and notes when the user updates them (from their favorite
editor or ....), and then lets the user refresh its view of the files from
the disk or vice-versa when ever TDE regains the focus.

This approach doesn't 'take sides' and allows the end user to use any
editor they like. It is also extended to allow the user to use their editor
for project MAKEing or to use a separate MAKE utility.

This approach has been well received by our customers and seems to satisfy
most design flows.  Since we added this feature, people have stopped asking
for 3rd party editor 'integration'.


At 01:31 PM 4/14/00 , you wrote:
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>My question to the PICLIST community:  What editor would you like to use
>with MPLAB?
>
>Darrel Johansen
>Systems Software Manager
>Microchip Technology, Inc.
>
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2000\04\14@165800 by William Chops Westfield

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Has anybody written EMACS libraries to support the assorted programmers and
development environments?  It should be possible, I think.

BillW

2000\04\14@165804 by Scott Dattalo

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On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Darrel Johansen wrote:

> My question to the PICLIST community:  What editor would you like to use
> with MPLAB?

I know I'm a minority, but I use Emacs (even when I have to use Windows I still
use emacs). You get pic-syntax highlighting thanks to James Cameron. But at the
same time, you get C highlighting, vhdl highlighting and probably every other
language highlighting that exists. Furthermore you get the function lists with
the 20.4+ releases (it works for C and C++ - I quite doubt it works for
assembly).

In addition, emacs supports cvs like Craig wants.

Actually, emacs supports probably every feature of every editor that's ever
existed.

But I don't use MPLAB, so my views are certainly not worth much as far as
suggest which editor to use. So instead of suggesting on standardizing on a new
editor, why not just allow ANY editor to be used. I fully understand the
practical consequences... (i.e. it ain't gonna be easy). However, a good modern
editor is configurable and should support spawning other processes. (MPLAB can
be made to be just another process).



Scott

PS. I also use pine as my mail reader. I also use toothpicks to pry my eyelids
open so I can program all night too :). So take my opinions for what they're
worth.

2000\04\14@170239 by Arthur

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Subject: Re: Syntax Highlighting in MPLAB


> The next version of MPLAB will be a full 32-bit version.  It is in the
> design stage now, and is approximately one year away from the expected
> release date.  One of the most requested features we get is for editor
> syntax highlighting, followed by more detailed high level language
> debugging features.  We plan to do both in that release.  We'd like to be
> able to support just about any editor, but I don't know if that's
feasible.
>
> My question to the PICLIST community:  What editor would you like to use
> with MPLAB?
>
> Darrel Johansen
> Systems Software Manager
> Microchip Technology, Inc.

2000\04\14@171514 by Craig Lee

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I am a big fan of Emacs too, as it makes editing very quick if you've
learned
all the keyboard macros.  I figure if you've got to use a mouse, your
cheating!
(I still miss WordStar!)

However, I haven't found a variant under windows that works well with
everything
else.

Do you have a link you could share.  If I could get Emacs working, then I
would
be able to have full cross system (PC/UNIX) compatability as CS-RCS file
structure
is still the native UNIX RCS.

I've downloaded a copy of ultraedit and am looking forward to testing it's
functionality also...

Craig


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2000\04\14@173637 by paulb

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Darrel Johansen wrote:

> The next version of MPLAB will be a full 32-bit version.  It is in the
> design stage now, and is approximately one year away from the expected
> release date.

 Including the Linux version?
--
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       Paul B.

2000\04\14@181124 by Quitt, Walter

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I agree: column blocking is a must.

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> My question to the PICLIST community:  What editor would you
> like to use
> with MPLAB?
>
> Darrel Johansen
> Systems Software Manager
> Microchip Technology, Inc.

My favorite commercial editor is Multi-Edit.  My favorite free editor is JFE
(Jan's File Editor).

What ever editor is used, I'd like to see column blocking.

-Mike

2000\04\14@182206 by Andrew E. Kalman

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>The next version of MPLAB will be a full 32-bit version.  It is in the
>design stage now, and is approximately one year away from the expected
>release date.  One of the most requested features we get is for editor
>syntax highlighting, followed by more detailed high level language
>debugging features.  We plan to do both in that release.  We'd like to be
>able to support just about any editor, but I don't know if that's feasible.
>
>My question to the PICLIST community:  What editor would you like to use
>with MPLAB?
I use CodeWarrior often just for its editor -- given that it exists for
Linux and PCs, and is quite popular in the educational market, you may want
to consider supporting it more explicitly than you do now.



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2000\04\14@182412 by Quitt, Walter

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I second that.  Emacs (like) editor support.
A user can always reconfigure to be like their
favorite editor.  Plus with emacs you get whole
lotta extra stuff, to boot.

My $0.02,
Walt...

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2000\04\14@183252 by William Chops Westfield

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What is "column blocking" ?

BillW

2000\04\14@183456 by Jeffrey D Spears

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vi!

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Darrel Johansen wrote:
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> My question to the PICLIST community:  What editor would you like to use
> with MPLAB?
>
> Darrel Johansen
> Systems Software Manager
> Microchip Technology, Inc.
>


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2000\04\14@185602 by Quitt, Walter

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Being able to "select" columns of text.
Then you can manipulate them.
Like delete or move or make caps or replace with something.

The MPLAB editor allows you to do things like word blocking
or line blocking (selecting a line) and letter blocking.
So it selects things in terms of rows.  Is that maybe row blocking?
So in MPLAB you can select lines and not columns.

Walt...

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What is "column blocking" ?

BillW

2000\04\14@190228 by David E Arnold

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Yes I see. Column blocking sounds very useful.

-Dave





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Being able to "select" columns of text.
Then you can manipulate them.
Like delete or move or make caps or replace with something.

The MPLAB editor allows you to do things like word blocking
or line blocking (selecting a line) and letter blocking.
So it selects things in terms of rows.  Is that maybe row blocking?
So in MPLAB you can select lines and not columns.

Walt...

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What is "column blocking" ?

BillW

2000\04\15@040834 by Arthur

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Yes I used to use QEdit this was in dos & win3 days,I must look for upgrade.
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2000\04\15@100023 by Wesley Moore

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Microchip have published a very useful AN on this topic, read only, not
write. The AN inquestion is AN727. In relation to Volac the following PDF
document, their October 99?? specials has a reader for AU$5.5 Don't know
if they still have them though. Email them, they are pretty good with
replies, web design they are not so good at... You'll see. The October
specials doc is:
http://www.vorlac.com.au/Vorlac/pdf/Oct-99.pdf

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2000\04\15@120841 by Thorsten Klose

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Darrel Johansen wrote:
> My question to the PICLIST community:  What editor would you like to use
> with MPLAB?

I want some little changes in the MP environment to make live with external
editors easier:
  - commandline tool for PICSTART Plus (something like the
    famous "picp" tool)
  - commandline disassembler
  - something like GNU make (dependencies of source files editable in
    an ASCII file)

also:

  - Better window handling in simulator: the code of my programs is
    normaly placed into different files. If i rebuild the code and
    want to start a new simulation, the source code windows are placed
    everywhere on the desktop but not where I want.
  - linux support

Best Regards, Thorsten.

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2000\04\16@113810 by Mauricio Jancic

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I vote for the UltraEdit. I'm using it now!!

       Mauricio

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De:     Matt Bonner [SMTP:.....mbonnerSTOPspamspam@spam@SUNADA.COM]
Enviado el:     Viernes, 14 de Abril de 2000 04:51 p.m.
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Asunto: Re: Syntax Highlighting in MPLAB

Darrel Johansen wrote:
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> My question to the PICLIST community:  What editor would you like to use
> with MPLAB?

UltraEdit-32
 http://www.ultraedit.com

--Matt

2000\04\17@103219 by Don Hyde

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Well, I'd have to say vi's about the absolute worst from my point of view.
Nothing but arbitrary arcane commands, and until you have several dozen of
them memorized you can't carry out the simplest operations.

Now that I've got a full head of grey hair, I figure I've earned the right
to be curmudgeonly, and complicated, hard-to-learn editors that force me to
waste my time memorizing yet another weird set of commands really gets my
steam up.

I rather like the MPLAB editor because it's so simple I didn't waste any
time at all figuring out how to use it.

After 30+ years of programming, my brain's so full of arbitrary commands and
un-memorable "mnemonics" that I have to unlearn some to cram in new ones.
If it takes me two weeks to master the commands on the latest spiffy editor,
it's two weeks down the drain because the next week I'll be using a
different one on a different project.

In the best of all possible worlds, all the tools I used would easily
integrate with every possible editor, and I could pick one of the nice
editors and stick with it.

Probably the best you could do would be to keep the simple built-in one, and
do the best you can making it integratable with others.  Good luck mastering
the secret interfaces for that in a Microsoft-dominated world.

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2000\04\17@112904 by jamesnewton

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2000\04\17@150348 by Martin SchŠfer

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I'm using "E! for Windows". There you can configure the syntax highlighting
for your special needs. You define colors, key words, user functions and so
on. You also can call any compiler from inside of E!. But you cant make the
simulation and the emulation from within E!. Thats why I'm looking forward
for MPLABs editor to become more powerful. Hopefully not in the far future.
:-)

Martin


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darrel Johansen [Darrel.Johansenspam_OUTspam@spam@microchip.com]

> My question to the PICLIST community:  What editor would you
> like to use
> with MPLAB?

2000\04\18@122014 by TOM THERON

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I vote for Visual SlickEdit.


Agree
Tom

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