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1999\07\27@144127 by Adam Davis

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Can we add a footer to each message from the list server?

-Adam

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1999\07\27@145406 by paulb

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Adam Davis wrote:

> Can we add a footer to each message from the list server?

 Preferably not.  Have you *seen* those lists where the fifth post has
five copies of the footer included?  And the "How do I unsubscribe" and
"Unsubscribble" messages with the footer (one or more) attached?

 Remember the edict: Make it foolproof and someone straightaway invents
a better fool!  It's *not* fixable.  Let it go.
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1999\07\27@153235 by eplus1

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Excellent idea! Even a shorter version (just the link) would work

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1999\07\28@004301 by Tjaart van der Walt

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"Paul B. Webster VK2BZC" wrote:
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> Adam Davis wrote:
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> > Can we add a footer to each message from the list server?
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>   Preferably not.  Have you *seen* those lists where the fifth post has
> five copies of the footer included?  And the "How do I unsubscribe" and
> "Unsubscribble" messages with the footer (one or more) attached?
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>   Remember the edict: Make it foolproof and someone straightaway invents
> a better fool!  It's *not* fixable.  Let it go.

It seems to be working reasonably well as it is. Since putting
up the page (450 hits since 29 March), the "UNSUBSCRIBBLE PUKELIST"
messages seem to have become less.

Maybe I should also put up one for matters religious <BG>

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1999\07\28@045754 by Mark Willis

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Tjaart van der Walt wrote:
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 I'm thinking if I can get the dang PicList Faq automated, that'll take
care of the remaining problems.  So far, no joy, though.  Need to get
Linux installed on a few machines here & so on, I guess...

 Mark

1999\07\28@124609 by Greg Wiley

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A couple of technical lists I use send out a monthly
administrative posting that emphasises the purpose
and expectations along with some common admin
procedures.  It's the same message every time so
it should be easy to just send it out once in a while.

FWIW, I also oppose the footer idea.

 -g

1999\07\28@134931 by Matthew Fries

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How about a footer that just points to the web page? It would only take
one line per message, and it might help with the frantic newbies who send
messages that say "Stop Spamming me!".



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1999\07\28@145422 by eplus1

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www.piclist.org IS NOT REGISTERED.

.....pause to let that sink in.....

How about one (or some) of you guys with money register it and run a server
(maybe at iversoft?) and put the commands (and maybe the archive?) on it.
Then each message is FROM
"http://www.piclist.org [PICLISTspamspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU]"

rather than from

"pic microcontroller discussion list [@spam@PICLISTKILLspamspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU]"

and you have a ZERO cost reference to a web site.

Anyway, it strikes me as stupid that a group as large and dedicated as the
PICLIST has a home page under someone's personal site and relies on the
bureaucracy of a major educational institute for changes to its handbook.

OOOOHHHH! my "Flame" and "Stepped in shit politically" warning lights just
blew right out' the panel!

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1999\07\28@151748 by Adam Davis

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Well, I can boot the cost if no one minds me owning the domain.  I have a chunk
of server space I could place some pages on, links to related pages, etc.

-Adam

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1999\07\28@161015 by Adam Davis

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Actually, it would be sufficient if someone were to pay for the domain, and have
iversoft redirect it to http://www.iversoft.com/piclist/

But I don't see a compalling need to have a specific domain associated with the
list.  The URL is enough, although it would probably be nice to have a FAQ and
to post an occasionaly message about how to subscribe, unsubscribe, and where
the archive and faq are located...

-Adam

1999\07\29@025629 by Eric Smith

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James Newton <EraseMEeplus1spamSAN.RR.COM> wrote:
> http://www.piclist.org IS NOT REGISTERED.

piclist.com is registered to Jory.

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Which *still* wouldn't eliminate the unsubscribe messages from illiterate
people.  Sigh.

> Anyway, it strikes me as stupid that a group as large and dedicated as the
> PICLIST has a home page under someone's personal site and relies on the
> bureaucracy of a major educational institute for changes to its handbook.

I've repeatedly offered to do this.  I've gotten resounding silence.  I'm
obviously not going to set up a new list to compete with the existing one.

It's too bad, because the mailing list software I use (qmail/ezmlm) has an
essentially foolproof means of preventing duplicate posts due to bounces
or loops.  I am very appreciative of MIT offering the use of their LISTSERV
for many years now, but it seems like moving to a more modern server would
have a lot of advantages.

Maybe we can write a list manager to run on an 18C series PIC.  :-)


'Suggestion to list admin:'
1999\08\02@150820 by Mark Willis
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Actually, Tjaart's web page is not "The Official" web page, he's good
enough to do that voluntarily, so I refer people to him, happily -
anything he does, Jory doesn't have to & I don't have to do.

Same as Iversoft handles the archiving (Far as I know, they do so
completely voluntarily <G>), and I'm happy to point people at their site
also.  Nothing's wrong with voluntary anything, in my book - including
webrings, and so forth.  (If you get yourself thoroughly lost, here in
the USA, the search for you will be mostly staffed by volunteers -
usually fairly well-trained volunteers, mind you <G>  And the Red Cross
etc. that help so many in disaster zones are basically volunteer
groups...)

 Mark

James Newton <RemoveMEeplus1TakeThisOuTspamspamSAN.RR.COM> wrote:
> Anyway, it strikes me as stupid that a group as large and dedicated as the
> > PICLIST has a home page under someone's personal site and relies on the
> > bureaucracy of a major educational institute for changes to its handbook.

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