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I thought I saw a few messages about developing a free basic similar to the Stamp. I tried to locate the thread, but this list is much tooo large. Anyway, is their a ongoing project to produce a free basic and or development interface? If so, I would like to know more and perhaps participate. Best regards, Giles

if you want a developer interface I would suggest readint the PIC customizing book by Predko. I found it to be a good informative book and well worth the money, I believe he has put out a revision since I bought mine {Original Message removed}

Giles L. Honeycutt wrote: > I thought I saw a few messages about developing a free basic similar > to the Stamp. I tried to locate the thread, but this list is much > tooo large. > Anyway, is their a ongoing project to produce a free basic and or > development interface? If so, I would like to know more and perhaps > participate. www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Cable/7772/ -- Cheers, Paul B.

They dont have much of a message board and they dont offer any source code and so why bother? or if they do i cant seem to find it. better off browsin around dontronics.com then anywhere else. mike On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 07:23:31 +1100 "Paul B. Webster VK2BZC" <spam_OUTpaulbTakeThisOuTMIDCOAST.COM.AU> wrote: {Quote hidden}>Giles L. Honeycutt wrote: > >> I thought I saw a few messages about developing a free basic similar >> to the Stamp. I tried to locate the thread, but this list is much >> tooo large. >> Anyway, is their a ongoing project to produce a free basic and or >> development interface? If so, I would like to know more and perhaps >> participate. > > www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Cable/7772/ >-- > Cheers, > Paul B. > Send someone a cool Dynamitemail flashcard greeting!! And get rewarded. GO AHEAD! http://cards.dynamitemail.com/index.php3?rid=fc-41

Hi Stamp Cloners, If you're really serious about the clone project, then Brian Forbes' book, "Inside the BASIC Stamp II", is a must read. 160 pages of well written text about PBASIC internals. Contact Brian at .....brian.forbesKILLspam@spam@compaq.com for oredering info. Happy cloning, - Nick -

Hello Giles - I am one of those people - email ffightKILLspamgeocities.com - thanks - Keith Causey > I thought I saw a few messages about developing a free basic similar to the > Stamp. I tried to locate the thread, but this list is much tooo large. > Anyway, is their a ongoing project to produce a free basic and or > development interface? If so, I would like to know more and perhaps > participate. > > Best regards, > Giles

Emulation of the code for the stamp I is relatively easy from what I gather. Even without a stamp plugged into the parallel port the stamp I editor leaves a file of the compiled code which is already pretty much broken. The stamp II editor does not do this. In order to get it's compiled code the handshaking protocol must be known. Anybody have any ideas about this? There is also the SX based stamp that has, I believe, 8 different code areas that can each be "RUN" from a main program. I have no experience with this editor though. That would be a more interesting unit to copy. > They dont have much of a message board and they dont offer any source code and so why bother? or if they do i cant seem to find it. better off browsin around dontronics.com then anywhere else. > > mike > > On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 07:23:31 +1100 "Paul B. Webster VK2BZC" <.....paulbKILLspam.....MIDCOAST.COM.AU> wrote: {Quote hidden}> >Giles L. Honeycutt wrote: > > > >> I thought I saw a few messages about developing a free basic similar > >> to the Stamp. I tried to locate the thread, but this list is much > >> tooo large. > >> Anyway, is their a ongoing project to produce a free basic and or > >> development interface? If so, I would like to know more and perhaps > >> participate. > > > > www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Cable/7772/ > >-- > > Cheers, > > Paul B. > > > > Send someone a cool Dynamitemail flashcard greeting!! And get rewarded. > GO AHEAD! http://cards.dynamitemail.com/index.php3?rid=fc-41

Actually i have a file that i got..umm i dont remember where ill find out and post it, it provides multitasking applications. You can load several programs into one chip and it will run all of them uses interupts its very neet actually and i plan to incorporate something like it in the next version of my stamp. mike On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:13:08 -0700 Keith Causey <EraseMEffightspam_OUTTakeThisOuTGEOCITIES.COM> wrote: {Quote hidden}>Emulation of the code for the stamp I is relatively easy from what I gather. >Even without a stamp plugged into the parallel port the stamp I editor >leaves a file of the compiled code which is already pretty much broken. The >stamp II editor does not do this. In order to get it's compiled code the >handshaking protocol must be known. Anybody have any ideas about this? There >is also the SX based stamp that has, I believe, 8 different code areas that >can each be "RUN" from a main program. I have no experience with this editor >though. That would be a more interesting unit to copy. > >> They dont have much of a message board and they dont offer any source code >and so why bother? or if they do i cant seem to find it. better off browsin >around dontronics.com then anywhere else. >> >> mike >> >> On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 07:23:31 +1100 "Paul B. Webster VK2BZC" ><paulbspam_OUTMIDCOAST.COM.AU> wrote: >> >Giles L. Honeycutt wrote: >> > >> >> I thought I saw a few messages about developing a free basic similar >> >> to the Stamp. I tried to locate the thread, but this list is much >> >> tooo large. >> >> Anyway, is their a ongoing project to produce a free basic and or >> >> development interface? If so, I would like to know more and perhaps >> >> participate. >> > >> > www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Cable/7772/ >> >-- >> > Cheers, >> > Paul B. >> > >> >> Send someone a cool Dynamitemail flashcard greeting!! And get rewarded. >> GO AHEAD! http://cards.dynamitemail.com/index.php3?rid=fc-41 > Send someone a cool Dynamitemail flashcard greeting!! And get rewarded. GO AHEAD! http://cards.dynamitemail.com/index.php3?rid=fc-41

Hi Folks, This is my first message! I designed a UPS using two PICs. I have experience to use USART module. I want to link UPS to PC. I need standard SEC protocol. Anybody has this? Yasar BOLAT @spam@ebolatKILLspamkou.edu.tr

Yasar, I don't have what you need, but would like to ask if you would be willing to share your design and software as it is? I have a need for a UPS and would like to build my own. This sounds like just what I was looking for. Let me know. Thanks and Regards, Jim On Thu, 16 December 1999, HASAN SOYLU wrote: {Quote hidden}> > Hi Folks, > This is my first message! > > I designed a UPS using two PICs. I have experience to use USART module. I > want to link UPS to PC. > I need standard SEC protocol. > Anybody has this? > > Yasar BOLAT > KILLspamebolatKILLspamkou.edu.tr RemoveMEjimTakeThisOuTjpes.com

I am the one that started this thread originally. After reviewing all the documentation available at the Basic Stamp Club's site as well as Chuck McManis's document on decoding the BS1 as well as the stuff on the Dontronics site, I have decided to try and roll my own Stamp clone using a 16F84. The reason? I didn't find any source code, I don't want use an AVR, Scenix, Motorola, etc. microprocessor, and besides it just looks like a fun challenge. As a starting point I have a BASIC interpreter from a Herbert Schildt C programming book that I think I can modify and use as the "tokenizer" for the input BASIC code, and can modify and use the algorithms on the PIC for the interpreter (I might even use CC5X for the interpreter). I intend to simplify the encoding scheme so that it is byte oriented rather than bit oriented. It will also be flexible in that you can use up to a 65K eeprom for storage if you need that much space or a 256 byte eeprom if that's all the storage you need (In other words I will use a full 16 bits for addresses). I also think it should be possible to add some instructions (PWM out?) that take advantage of interrupts, but I haven't thought this one through yet. I also have in mind a few other instructions I would like to add to the BASIC instruction set. I will definitely be sharing the result of my efforts (FREE, AND INCLUDING SOURCE CODE) as I work on this. However, I have 3 kids, a wife, a house, and other hobbies, so no promises on when you might see something. Adam On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:55:51 -0600 "Giles L. Honeycutt" <spamBeGonegilesspamBeGoneAETRIUM-FSA.COM> writes: {Quote hidden}> I thought I saw a few messages about developing a free basic similar > to the > Stamp. I tried to locate the thread, but this list is much tooo > large. > Anyway, is their a ongoing project to produce a free basic and or > development interface? If so, I would like to know more and perhaps > participate. > > Best regards, > Giles Adam Bryant (age 0x23) TakeThisOuTadamdbEraseMEspam_OUTjuno.com Parker, CO, USA Robotics, RC Airplanes, anything using a PIC ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: dl.http://www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Adam, as you progress I would like to offer some assistance when you reach a point where you can share some of the source. I too have similiar "other" obligations but will try what I can. John Mullan {Original Message removed}

Adam Bryant wrote: > However, I have 3 kids, a wife, a house, and other hobbies, Ahhh well, only an Adam, not an Andy... -- Cheers, Paul B.

An interesting possibility for "stamp clones" in EEPROM/Flash devices like the 16F84 is to put part of your "basic" program in the flash (program) memory as well as using the (reprogrammable) EEPROM itself. Obviously, this isn't as trivial to reprogram (it takes an external programmer rather than allowing the PIC to do the programming itself), but it could extend the size of the basic program you can use by quite a bit. BillW

PIC code in the EEPROM, if it is portable, it could be used to directly program parts of the 877, they have the ability to write to program memory. That would be a nice capability for future expansion. Making the code portable and checking all the details may be a bit more complicated. (all the branching and labels ... What RAM is available for the function to use, how will data be passed to and from..) Best regards, Giles {Original Message removed}