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1997\05\27@003941 by Steve Hardy

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Could someone please change the listserver to reject mail
from non-subscribers?  Is it possible to automatically
reject messages with the word 'money' or 'sex' mentioned
more than once?  (True subscribers could get around this
by using m*ney or s*x).

Regards,
SJH
Canberra, Australia

1997\05\27@020507 by Eric Martens

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I'm all for that. I'm subscribed to a lot of mailing list and i get a lot
of mail every day. I currently fliter out this garabage but it's amazing
how many advertisments and relious stuff gets through. It would be a
welcome adition to the list server. All though i think it won't be easy to
implement.

Greetings Eric Martens

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1997\05\27@022826 by Mike

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(True subscribers could get around this
>by using m*ney or s*x).

Gee I'm glad you didn't say m*ney f*r s*x but, then we are Engin**rs ;)

And yes I agree - the listserver should reject nonsubscriber emails etc

Rgds

Mike
Perth, Western Australia


Some say there is no magic but, all things begin with thought then it becomes
academic, then some poor slob works out a practical way to implement all that
theory, this is called Engineering - for most people another form of magic.
                                                                      Massen

1997\05\27@100846 by Jim Robertson

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At 02:28 AM 5/27/97 -0400, you wrote:

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>And yes I agree - the listserver should reject nonsubscriber emails etc
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>Rgds
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>Mike
>Perth, Western Australia



This has been tried and the idea abandoned. Andy Warren provided the reason
why and it was something to due with the variable way some mail servers
send the same return address.

Put another way..

When it was trialed, there were a number of people who were unable to post
anything because there email address was presented differently from the way
it was when they first subscribed (or something like that.)

I not expert on the exact details so please don't fire your questions or
rebuttals my way. I'm only working from memory and I didn't take it all in
to begin with.

I do know it was tried and abandoned.

Jim

1997\05\27@195737 by John Payson

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> >And yes I agree - the listserver should reject nonsubscriber emails etc
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> This has been tried and the idea abandoned. Andy Warren provided the reason
> why and it was something to due with the variable way some mail servers
> send the same return address.

Right.  For example, when I was a student at UW Madison using my class
account, email from me could have appeared as

       .....johnpKILLspamspam.....cat12.cs.wisc.edu   or
       EraseMEjohnpspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTcat29.cs.wisc.edu   or
       johnpspamspam_OUTcat48.cs.wisc.edu   or anything in-between.

Personally, I would think this could be solved by requiring that anyone
posting to the list have the same username and domain name as someone on
the list (e.g. @spam@johnpKILLspamspamwisc.edu) and allowing people to be subscribed as
write-only (e.g. if someone has two totally different accounts and wishes
to post from both and yet doesn't want two of every messages).  Alternat-
ively (and even better) the list-server could be configured with a list of
addresses of addresses that could post even if they weren't on the list;
someone like the "johnp" account above could ask the listmanager to enable
posting from johnp@cat*.cs.wisc.edu.  Unfortunately, AFAIK the list
manager software currently in use does not have this feature and
consequently this idea--wonderful as it may be--cannot be practically
implemented.

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