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'Second Edition of "Programming and Customizing the'
1999\10\04@130106 by Myke Predko

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Hi Folks,

I am working on the second edition of my "Programming and Customizing the
PIC Microcontroller", which will have its name changed slightly to reflect
the actual Microchip product name.  At the same time, I will be producing a
"PICMicro Pocket Reference Book".  The target publication date for both
books is 2Q 2000 and they will be published by McGraw-Hill (I don't know at
this time if they will be under the "TAB" label).


If you have any suggestions for the book, I am interested in hearing what
you have to say.  I will not be publishing a proposed Table of Contents
simply because it is continually changing and probably won't be "finalized"
for a couple of months.

I will be reordering quite a bit of the book to avoid problems where some
material is presented before the prerequisite material.  There will also be
much more substantial Appendices with more reference information.  There
will be about twenty new experiments and ten new projects in the book.
These additional projects (and the current experiments and projects) will
have complete schematics and I will be including Gerber files where
applicable.


Like the first edition, I would like to list vendors of PICMicro products
and services.  If you are interested in having your company listed, please
fill out the form below.  I will be accepting submissions until Friday
December 3rd.  Web page links to the companies will be provided on the
CD-ROM that will come with the book.

Note that I will be accepting company logos and photographs of products.
These logos/photographs must be in TIFF Version 5.00 Format at a minimum of
300 dpi resolution.  Graphics can be submitted in CorelDRAW 8 format.
Photographs can also be shipped to me and scanned in for the book.

And, like the previous books, I will not be accepting companies with pages
that have political messages, pornographic pictures or obscenities.

For your company/product description, please spend some time writing it and
thinking about what you want to present.  In the past, many companies left
this section of the form blank or submitted text that is poorly written and
difficult to understand what is being presented.  If English is not your
first language, you should probably find somebody who can translate your
ideas into English.


If you have a product you would like reviewed and presented in the book, I
am interested in taking a look at it.  Of most interest would be compilers,
programmers and emulators.  If you want to do this, I expect that the
product be shipped to me via FedEx and if you want it back, you will supply
me with a FedEx account code.  The manufacturer will be responsible for all
shipping and customs charges (I live in Canda).  If I have any problems with
the product, it will be returned and not reviewed or presented in the book.


Legal stuff:  I will not take responsibility of the accuracy of the
statements made by companies or their material in the book.  I will not
review products that are based on unlicensed Microchip technology (the
products that this statement is most likely to encompass are "clone" chips -
at the present time, Microchip has not licensed the PICMicro architecture to
any third parties).   Quoting the review on your web page or in sales
material will require written permission from McGraw-Hill and myself.


myke



Company Submission form:

Name of Company: _________________________________

Primay Contact: ____________________________________
Phone Number: ____________________________________
Fax: _____________________________________________
 (Note: For non-North American locations, please include the Country Code)
email: ____________________________________________

Company Street Address: _____________________________
Company Suite/Apt Number: ___________________________
Company City Address: _______________________________
Company State/Provice/Territory: ________________________
Company Country: ___________________________________
Company Postal/Zip Code: _____________________________

Company URL: ______________________________________
Company email: _____________________________________
Company Phone: _____________________________________
Company Fax: _______________________________________
 (Note: For non-North American locations, please include the Country Code)
Company Support email: _______________________________
Company Support Phone: ______________________________
Company Support Fax: ________________________________
 (Note: For non-North American locations, please include the Country Code)

Company/Product Description (200 Words Max): _____________
___________________________________________________
___________________________________________________
___________________________________________________
___________________________________________________
___________________________________________________
___________________________________________________
___________________________________________________
___________________________________________________


Do you have a company Logo you want presented with the
Listing? ___ Yes  ___ No

Do you have a product photograph you want to be presented with
the Listing?  ___ Yes ___ No

If the answer is "Yes" to either of these questions, explain how the
graphics are to be submitted and if they are attanched to this note
please describe their format: ___________________________
__________________________________________________
__________________________________________________
__________________________________________________
__________________________________________________


Are you interested having your product reviewed in the book?
___ Yes ___ No

If the answer is "yes" to this question, please describe the product
and the terms of the submittal: ___________________________
__________________________________________________
__________________________________________________
__________________________________________________
__________________________________________________

1999\10\04@175156 by Chris Eddy

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>Hi Folks,
>
>I am working on the second edition of my "Programming and Customizing the
>PIC Microcontroller", which will have its name changed slightly to reflect
>the actual Microchip product name.  At the same time, I will be producing a
>"PICMicro Pocket Reference Book".  The target publication date for both
>books is 2Q 2000 and they will be published by McGraw-Hill (I don't know at
>this time if they will be under the "TAB" label).
>

You dog!  Everytime I see your title in Borders, as I wander through, I
think, 'That Mike must be filthy rich by now'.  I believe that the winner in
life is the one who got off his ass and did something.  My hat is off to
you.

Then again, in Canada, your tax return probably looks like this:

Name____________
Total income_______________
$200 living deduction______________
Difference:__________________
Please send this amount in.

Chris Eddy
Pioneer mcirosystems, Inc.

1999\10\04@184910 by wsiemens

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Chris wrote:
Then again, in Canada, your tax return probably looks like this:

Name____________
Total income_______________
$200 living deduction______________
Difference:__________________
Please send this amount in.

Chris Eddy
Pioneer mcirosystems, Inc. <<Might want to check that spelling>>

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       You've got in wrong, the living deduction is around $6500. Of course tha
t
works out to about $200 US :-)

Wendall

1999\10\04@195849 by Brian Gracia

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At 11:56 AM 10/4/99 , you wrote:
>Hi Folks,
<snip>
>If you have any suggestions for the book, I am interested in hearing what
>you have to say.  I will not be publishing a proposed Table of Contents
>simply because it is continually changing and probably won't be "finalized"
>for a couple of months.
>

How bout showing a user how to use VB to talk to the pic.  Seems this comes
up enough!

>I will be reordering quite a bit of the book to avoid problems where some
>material is presented before the prerequisite material.

Thank You!!!!!!  I did think that for a beginner like myself, your book was
a little hard to follow.  I did gleam a few things from the book though.
It would be really nice if you would go over how basic computer programming
commands like loops can be done in pic code.

> There will also be
>much more substantial Appendices with more reference information.  There
>will be about twenty new experiments and ten new projects in the book.
>These additional projects (and the current experiments and projects) will
>have complete schematics and I will be including Gerber files where
>applicable.
>
<SNIP>

Brian Gracia
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Better Produce through Better Control
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1999\10\05@092721 by Myke Predko

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Hi Chris,

I wish I was getting "filthy rich".  Right now I am "just able to pay my
bills".

Yeah, my tax return looks *something* like that.

I'm looking forward to getting your information for the book,

myke
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1999\10\05@093353 by Myke Predko

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Hi Brian,

> <snip>
> >If you have any suggestions for the book, I am interested in hearing what
> >you have to say.  I will not be publishing a proposed Table of Contents
> >simply because it is continually changing and probably won't be
"finalized"
> >for a couple of months.
> >
>
> How bout showing a user how to use VB to talk to the pic.  Seems this
comes
> up enough!

Already written.  I have a section on the "MSCOMM" object in VB as well, I
will be showing an example application that uses a VB interface.

> >I will be reordering quite a bit of the book to avoid problems where some
> >material is presented before the prerequisite material.
>
> Thank You!!!!!!  I did think that for a beginner like myself, your book
was
> a little hard to follow.  I did gleam a few things from the book though.
> It would be really nice if you would go over how basic computer
programming
> commands like loops can be done in pic code.

I got that comment from a few people.  I think you'll like the changes I
have made to how the instructions are explained.


myke

1999\10\05@101644 by Lawrence Lile

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Myke,

Thanks for being diligent!

There have been some discussions about C programming, and several people
have gone to the trouble to convert your competitor's Easy PIC'n examples
into C.  You might want to inlcude a chapter on C, some examples in C, and
recommend some further references and reading for those who want to go
further.  If you want some "fer instances" of decent C references (Besides
just K&R)  I can forward some to you.

-- Lawrence



-----Original Message-----
From: Myke Predko <spam_OUTmykeTakeThisOuTspamPASSPORT.CA>
To: .....PICLISTKILLspamspam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <PICLISTspamKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 12:01 PM
Subject: Second Edition of "Programming and Customizing the PICMicro"


>Hi Folks,
>
>I am working on the second edition of my "Programming and Customizing the
>PIC Microcontroller",

>etc.etc.

1999\10\05@115315 by Adam Bryant

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Myke,
Something that comes up on the list quite frequently is "freebie" high
level languages for the PIC (C, BASIC, JAL, PICLite, etc.).  I would
include as many of these as possible on the CD as well as simple examples
of code for each to give people reading the book that many more avenues
to getting involved in PICs.  Even if the code examples are 20 line
"blink an LED" programs, it will show users how the same task is
accomplished in different languages.  Many people are scared of assembler
(wimps!) and having to code assembler is enough to keep them from
learning PICs.

I personally recommend the free CC5X C compiler.  I find myself using it
quite frequently when I don't need the precise control over timing and
number of bytes I can get in assembler.  Often though, I write the C
code, see what assembler code is generated, then go back and tweak the C
code until the generated assembly code is as tight as possible.  Best of
both worlds.

Now if only there were an inexpensive upgrade path for those of us that
own the original "Programming and Customizing the PICMicro". :-)  Can you
"patch" a book?

I really liked the first edition and I am sure that the second edition
will be an even more valuable resource for PIC'ers everywhere.

Adam Bryant (age 0x23)
.....abryantKILLspamspam.....peaktech.com (work)
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Parker, CO, USA
Robotics, RC Airplanes, anything using a PIC

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1999\10\05@133952 by Chris Eddy

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Ah, um, I haven't bought the book.  But, I would love to suggest ideas.

I don't know if this book remains targetted at beginner, intermediate, or
advanced level.  Nevertheless, you might add two sections.

You probably have an interrupts section, I suggest making it as strong as
possible.  When I inherit new clients to do code for, half of the time the
previous project engineer wrote some abominable code that frequently has no
use of interrupts.  Professional level code cannot be written without
effective use of interrupts.

The second idea is for a 'Foobydust' section.  Of course, ask Bob Pease for
the use of the word.  In this section, you might do fast intros to the
config line format, the basic syntax of a macro, the subtle aspects of
emulating, and debugging techniques.  Certainly, this section could go to
unlimmitted size, but simply prune it to just the major ideas.

Best of luck with the new volumes.
Chris Eddy

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1999\10\06@150123 by Anthony Clay

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<x-flowed>Myke, try to go into greater detail in analog to digital conversions and
serial communication between two pics, like SPI or I2C.  Or at least provide
an overview.

Anthony

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1999\10\15@074334 by fernteix

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Hi Myke

Many people like me, that have worked in analogue world and that are updated
to PICs to produce better devices, need to communicate in serial with PCs
for sending controls to a PIC and receiving data in the PC.

We need not only to know by curiosity how others do it, and to buy modules,
but would like to learn ways to do simple things ourselves in the least
expensive way. So we would like to learn with simple but useful working
examples. As example in VB, ( if possible without  requiring the expensive
prof package...) choosing a A/D channel of the 877 , sending more control
bits for an experiment,  reading the 10 bit A/D, saving the values in a file
excel compatible.  After we can learn more when necessary.

fernando

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'Second Edition of "Programming and Customizing the'
1999\11\07@140748 by Myke Predko
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Hi Folks,

I just wanted to put up the request again for companies that want to be
listed in the second edition of the PICMicro book.  I will not be
transferring listings automatically between editions - although if your
information hasn't changed, let me know I will transfer the listing.

If you are interested, please fill out the form below:

Logos/photographs must be in TIFF Version 5.00 Format at a minimum of 300
dpi resolution.  Graphics can be submitted in CorelDRAW 8 format.
Photographs can also be shipped to me and scanned in for the book.

And, like the previous books, I will not be accepting companies with pages
that have political messages, pornographic pictures or obscenities.

For your company/product description, please spend some time writing it and
thinking about what you want to present.  In the past, many companies left
this section of the form blank or submitted text that is poorly written and
difficult to understand what is being presented.  If English is not your
first language, you should probably find somebody who can translate your
ideas into English.


If you have a product you would like reviewed and presented in the book, I
am interested in taking a look at it.  Of most interest would be compilers,
programmers and emulators.  If you want to do this, I expect that the
product be shipped to me via FedEx and if you want it back, you will supply
me with a FedEx account code.  The manufacturer will be responsible for all
shipping and customs charges (I live in Canda).  If I have any problems with
the product, it will be returned and not reviewed or presented in the book.


Legal stuff:  I will not take responsibility of the accuracy of the
statements made by companies or their material in the book.  I will not
review products that are based on unlicensed Microchip technology (the
products that this statement is most likely to encompass are "clone" chips -
at the present time, Microchip has not licensed the PICMicro architecture to
any third parties).   Quoting the review on your web page or in sales
material will require written permission from McGraw-Hill and myself.


myke



Company Submission form:

Name of Company: _________________________________

Primay Contact: ____________________________________
Phone Number: ____________________________________
Fax: _____________________________________________
 (Note: For non-North American locations, please include the Country Code)
email: ____________________________________________

Company Street Address: _____________________________
Company Suite/Apt Number: ___________________________
Company City Address: _______________________________
Company State/Provice/Territory: ________________________
Company Country: ___________________________________
Company Postal/Zip Code: _____________________________

Company URL: ______________________________________
Company email: _____________________________________
Company Phone: _____________________________________
Company Fax: _______________________________________
 (Note: For non-North American locations, please include the Country Code)
Company Support email: _______________________________
Company Support Phone: ______________________________
Company Support Fax: ________________________________
 (Note: For non-North American locations, please include the Country Code)

Company/Product Description (200 Words Max): _____________
___________________________________________________
___________________________________________________
___________________________________________________
___________________________________________________
___________________________________________________
___________________________________________________
___________________________________________________
___________________________________________________


Do you have a company Logo you want presented with the
Listing? ___ Yes  ___ No

Do you have a product photograph you want to be presented with
the Listing?  ___ Yes ___ No

If the answer is "Yes" to either of these questions, explain how the
graphics are to be submitted and if they are attanched to this note
please describe their format: ___________________________
__________________________________________________
__________________________________________________
__________________________________________________
__________________________________________________


Are you interested having your product reviewed in the book?
___ Yes ___ No

If the answer is "yes" to this question, please describe the product
and the terms of the submittal: ___________________________
__________________________________________________
__________________________________________________
__________________________________________________
__________________________________________________

1999\11\26@144428 by Robin Abbott

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Myke

Is it too late for your book ? If not please let me know and I'll return
your emai request by emial if that's OK.

Robin Abbott - robin.abbottspamspam_OUTfored.co.uk

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1999\11\27@105122 by Myke Predko

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Hi Robin,

No problem.  Just send it to me when you're ready.

myke
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From: Robin Abbott <@spam@robin.abbottKILLspamspamFORED.CO.UK>
To: <KILLspamPICLISTKILLspamspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: Second Edition of "Programming and Customizing the PICMicro"


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300
> > dpi resolution.  Graphics can be submitted in CorelDRAW 8 format.
> > Photographs can also be shipped to me and scanned in for the book.
> >
> > And, like the previous books, I will not be accepting companies with
pages
> > that have political messages, pornographic pictures or obscenities.
> >
> > For your company/product description, please spend some time writing it
> and
> > thinking about what you want to present.  In the past, many companies
left
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architecture
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1999\11\30@132958 by w. v. ooijen / f. hanneman

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Hi Myke

I don't know whether I am too late, but
here is my response for Jal.
Note that I am not a company, just a
private person offering a freeware compiler,
so most of your questions do not apply.

> Name of Company/ Primay Contact: Wouter van Ooijen
> Company Country: Netherlands
> Company (product) URL: http://www.xs4all.nl/~wf/wouter/pic/jal
> Company email: RemoveMEwfspamTakeThisOuTxs4all.nl
> Product Description (200 Words Max):
Jal is a freeware compiler for the 16c84, 16f84, SX18 and SX28.
Jal is a simple, Pascal-like language. Libraries are provided
for delays, serial communication, LCD interface etc.
> Listing? No
> the Listing?  No
> Are you interested having your product reviewed in the book? Yes

success with your book
Wouter

1999\11\30@133709 by WF

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Hi Mike,

Don't forget the REXPIC, remote experiment with PIC17C756...

Ahhh,

My web page changed:

http://www.blusoft.org.br/wf/

Thanks!

Miguel

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'Second Edition of "Programming and Customizing the'
2000\02\02@214043 by Myke Predko
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Hi Folks,

I just wanted to put this out one last time - please fill out the form below
and get it to me if you are interested in getting your company listed in
"Programming and Customizing the PICmicro", the Second Edition.  I need your
requests by February 15, 2000.

If you did reply to the previous requests, please do it again - I think I
have them all, but most of the replies came in when I was having trouble
with my sight...

Thanx,

myke
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2000\02\03@011301 by Peter Keller

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Myke Predko schrieb:

> Hi Folks,
>
> I just wanted to put this out one last time - please fill out the form below
> and get it to me if you are interested in getting your company listed in
> "Programming and Customizing the PICmicro", the Second Edition.  I need your
> requests by February 15, 2000.
>
> If you did reply to the previous requests, please do it again - I think I
> have them all, but most of the replies came in when I was having trouble
> with my sight...
>
> Thanx,
>
> myke
> {Original Message removed}

2000\02\11@081333 by Myke Predko

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Hi Folks,

This is your last chance - I'm going to wrap everything up next Friday
(February 18, 2000).  If you want to be listed in the book, please fill out
the form below.

myke
{Original Message removed}

2000\02\11@102844 by - KITS EDUCACIONAIS NACIONAIS

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Myke

May i send you an article about REMOTE EXPERIMENT WITH PIC???

Thanks

Miguel

Myke Predko wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> This is your last chance - I'm going to wrap everything up next Friday
> (February 18, 2000).  If you want to be listed in the book, please fill out
> the form below.
>
> myke
> {Original Message removed}

2000\02\11@121835 by Jim Mand

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-----Original Message-----
From: Myke Predko [RemoveMEmykespam_OUTspamKILLspamPASSPORT.CA]
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 7:11 AM
To: RemoveMEPICLISTTakeThisOuTspamspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Second Edition of "Programming and Customizing the PICMicro"


Hi Folks,

This is your last chance - I'm going to wrap everything up next Friday
(February 18, 2000).  If you want to be listed in the book, please fill out
the form below.

myke
----- Original Message -----
From: Myke Predko <EraseMEmykespamspamspamBeGonepassport.ca>
To: <RemoveMEpiclistKILLspamspammitvma.mit.edu>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 2:07 PM
Subject: Second Edition of "Programming and Customizing the PICMicro"


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and
> thinking about what you want to present.  In the past, many companies left
> this section of the form blank or submitted text that is poorly written
and
> difficult to understand what is being presented.  If English is not your
> first language, you should probably find somebody who can translate your
> ideas into English.
>
>
> If you have a product you would like reviewed and presented in the book, I
> am interested in taking a look at it.  Of most interest would be
compilers,
> programmers and emulators.  If you want to do this, I expect that the
> product be shipped to me via FedEx and if you want it back, you will
supply
> me with a FedEx account code.  The manufacturer will be responsible for
all
> shipping and customs charges (I live in Canda).  If I have any problems
with
> the product, it will be returned and not reviewed or presented in the
book.
>
>
> Legal stuff:  I will not take responsibility of the accuracy of the
> statements made by companies or their material in the book.  I will not
> review products that are based on unlicensed Microchip technology (the
> products that this statement is most likely to encompass are "clone"
chips -
> at the present time, Microchip has not licensed the PICMicro architecture
to
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> Company Support email: _______________________________
> Company Support Phone: ______________________________
> Company Support Fax: ________________________________
>   (Note: For non-North American locations, please include the Country
Code)
>
> Company/Product Description (200 Words Max):  Design Concepts designs and
engineers products for a variety of industries.  The Industrial Designers,
Mechanical and Electrical Engineers, and Prototype Specialists can turn
ideas into one-of-a-kind or mass produced products.  PIC projects include a
consumer use hand tool with a yearly production of two million units and an
industrial use labeling machine with a yearly production of five hundred
units.>
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