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'Reading MIME messages'
1996\11\06@230155 by Peter J. Crowcroft

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Not wishing to appear ignorant I have been waiting for anyone to ask HOW to
read these messages. No one has so assumed everyone could, except me. So I
emailed three people I know read the list to ask the secret. All 3 said they
delete them & did not in fact know how to do it.

I use Eudora Light. I can read the message if it is file attached. But when
it is within the message itself I do not know how to decode it. Would
someone please explain.

Tks,  Peter

1996\11\07@070440 by Gerhard Fiedler

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At 11:56 07/11/96 -0800, Peter J. Crowcroft wrote:
>Not wishing to appear ignorant I have been waiting for anyone to ask HOW to
>read these messages. No one has so assumed everyone could, except me. So I
>emailed three people I know read the list to ask the secret. All 3 said they
>delete them & did not in fact know how to do it.

_I_ think you can ask things related to the messages, anytime... in fact,
you should. And even responding, _thinking_ you know what you're talking
about, you can look pretty dumb in the light of other responses ;-) Much
more than just asking.

>I use Eudora Light. I can read the message if it is file attached. But when
>it is within the message itself I do not know how to decode it. Would
>someone please explain.

There are a couple of freeware decoders for MIME and UUENCODEd messages
around. A search in any BBS (or in the Internet) should give you a broad
selection. There are a few basic working principles: some simply convert a
certain file (then you'd have to save your message as a file, call the
converter, maybe rename the file,...), some work with the Windows clipboard
(copy the relevant part of the message to it and call the converter which
will ask you for a name/place where to save the file), and so on.

1996\11\07@072137 by tjaart

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I use Netscape's mail. I downloaded the file and Excel read it.
No Problem
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1996\11\07@110326 by Les Troyer

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According to Peter J. Crowcroft:
>
> Not wishing to appear ignorant I have been waiting for anyone to ask HOW to
> read these messages. No one has so assumed everyone could, except me. So I
> emailed three people I know read the list to ask the secret. All 3 said they
> delete them & did not in fact know how to do it.
>
> I use Eudora Light. I can read the message if it is file attached. But when
> it is within the message itself I do not know how to decode it. Would
> someone please explain.
>
> Tks,  Peter
>

Peter:

I think you are confusing two different things.  MIME is fairly easily
read/saved.... It is well documented and usually uses base64 encoding to
convert binary data to limited ascii (other encodings (ie UUENCODE) are also
allowed).  I'm guessing you can at least get this far and get the WINMAIL.DAT
or whatever file decoded.

The file that was decoded is a propriarity (god i can't even spell it) format
for MS-MAIL.  So.. the secret to reading the message is to use MS-MAIL.  I
don't think the format of the file is published anywhere.

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1996\11\07@120932 by Chuck McManis

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I'm using Microsoft Messaging and I just click on the message and it opens up
in a separate window to be read.
--Chuck

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From:   Peter J. Crowcroft[SMTP:.....diykitKILLspamspam@spam@HK.SUPER.NET]
Sent:   Thursday, November 07, 1996 11:56 AM
To:     Multiple recipients of list PICLIST
Subject:        Reading MIME messages

Not wishing to appear ignorant I have been waiting for anyone to ask HOW to
read these messages. No one has so assumed everyone could, except me. So I
emailed three people I know read the list to ask the secret. All 3 said they
delete them & did not in fact know how to do it.

I use Eudora Light. I can read the message if it is file attached. But when
it is within the message itself I do not know how to decode it. Would
someone please explain.

Tks,  Peter

1996\11\07@153525 by Thomas Vegeby

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>I use Eudora Light. I can read the message if it is file attached. But when
>it is within the message itself I do not know how to decode it. Would
>someone please explain.

This is what has happened to me a couple of times:

For some reason the attached file is included as coded text, an example:

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Description: "Base64 encode of st202a.xls by Wincode v2.6.1"
Message-ID: <3426804073068_st202a.xls>
Content-Type: application…octet-stream; name="st202a.xls"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: Base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="st202a.xls"

0M8R4KGxGuEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPgADAP7/CQAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAMwAAAAAAAAAA
EAAA/v///wAAAAD+////AAAAADIAAAD/////////////////////////////////////////////
  ...
bQBlAG4AdABTAHUAbQBtAGEAcgB5AEkAbgBmAG8AcgBtAGEAdABpAG8AbgAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOAAC
Af///////////////wAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACoAAAAAEAAA
AAAAAA==

/end of example.

This is how to solve it:

1.  Get a suitable decoder.  I use WINCODE.  You may get if from TUCOWS,
   get a suitable mirror site at http://www.tucows.com .
2.  Extract the coded message segment,  either to a separate file (the file
   name does not matter),  or to the clipboard.
3.  Decode with WinCode.  The decoded file will appear in the WinCode
   decode library.


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1996\11\07@165054 by Reginald Neale

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>I'm using Microsoft Messaging and I just click on the message and it opens up
>in a separate window to be read.
>--Chuck
>
Yes, you are one of the fortunate people who have realized that resistance
to BillGatus of Borg is futile. Those who have been assimilated will have
no problem with the encoded message.




.....................Reg Neale.....................
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