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1998\06\23@103941 by Martin Green

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    Yep, I thought so too, but lately I have been reading of a lot of PC
    owners that are following the instructions in various computing mags,
    and finding that their PC's won't handle >1999. In short, to test your
    PC, set your clock to a few minutes before midnight, December 31,
    1999, then shut off your PC. Wait a few minutes, until the clock
    should be well into January 1, 2000 and run your PC back on. Your OS
    will read the clock setting from the BIOS, and although most PC's will
    correctly read Jan 1, 2000, apparently many are being set back to Jan
    1, 1980 or 1900.

    Again, as you said, I have not personally seen a PC that can't handle
    Y2K, but it seems that not everyone is so lucky.

    BTW, to properly perform this test you MUST shut off your PC as
    described, otherwise the time will not be read in from the hardware
    clock, and the OS will happily roll over into 2000, and you will think
    everything is Ok, when it's not.


    CIAO - Martin.


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Date:    6/22/98 5:18 PM


THere must be something that I am totally not noticing, but I can not
ever remember seeing a PC whose BIOS couldn't handle years >2000. Not
that I went and tested every one, but I have sometimes seen PC's dates
accidentally get set to a year like 2048. I can buy that banks and the
gov't will have a problem with older systems, but I have always been
under the impression that it was standard in PCs to store the date in a
format offset from some recent year (I think 1980). I also thought that
at least 8 bits were devoted to it.

Sean


On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Martin Green wrote:

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1998\06\23@122147 by Martin Green

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    Hey Bill, this morning I got to work to find a sticker on my phone
    from the IS department at Consumers Gas here in Toronto, stating that
    my phone has been certified as Y2K audited. Now I can see this being
    relevant for the people here witht the LCD display on their phones
    that displays the time and date, but mine is little more than a
    handest and a box with buttons.

    Kind of reminds me of a few years ago, with all the food manufacturers
    using vegetable oils scrambling to inform the public that their
    product is now "cholesterol free!", when only products made with
    animal fats have cholesterol in the first place.


    CIAO - Martin.


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Date:    6/22/98 2:56 PM


    <SNIP>

I mostly see the silly side of this: "is your router with no senses of date
to start with certified to be year-2000 compatible"?, I talked with a
financial planner the other day, and he had a significant worry that there
would be financial crises related to the "year 2000 problem". (~30%, I
think.)  I think "Crisis" in this context means anything that will spook the
stock market, as opposed to "real" crises...

BillW

1998\06\23@132032 by Dan Larson

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Does it matter if the Handset is Y2K compliant when the public network
that it interfaces to falls appart?

Lets see,,, I have this nice Y2K compliant pencil and eraser,,,
Y2K micro-wave popcorn (No joke!  ACT II 2000 popcorn!
"The popcorn of the new millenium")...

I think, though, that the Y2K issues will be a little more serious
than "oat bran" was.  *Sigh*

On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:42:39 -0400, Martin Green wrote:

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1998\06\23@133626 by David VanHorn

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>     Hey Bill, this morning I got to work to find a sticker on my phone
>     from the IS department at Consumers Gas here in Toronto, stating that
>     my phone has been certified as Y2K audited. Now I can see this being
>     relevant for the people here witht the LCD display on their phones
>     that displays the time and date, but mine is little more than a
>     handest and a box with buttons.


Reminiscent of when the megacorp I used to work for decided to asset tag
everything of value. I came in one morning to find my computer had been
tagged, by putting the tag on the KEYBOARD.  The main box, monitor, ram,
hard disk.. all were worth vastly more.

I unplugged my keyboard and took it to the guy in charge of this, and
offered
to swap him my computer for his.

The only thing more irritating than a bad solution is a bad solution to a
non-problem.

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