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1998\06\16@144951 by Martin Green

    Yep, the transmission fluid is used both to shift gears, and in the
    torque converter to transfer power between the engine and the
    transmission with 'slip'.

    On the subject of a manual transmission on a hill, my father, now 65,
    told me that in England when he went for his original drivers license,
    he was tested on his expertise with using clutch slip to stay
    stationary on a hill. The tester placed the car on a fairly steep hill
    facing uphill, with the parking brake on. He then placed a wooden
    matchbox (that should date my father's driving test) tight behind one
    of the rear wheels. My father then had to get the car moving forward
    without breaking the matchbox or lurching forward, using ONLY the
    brake and clutch (he couldn't use the handbrake except to disengage it
    just before moving). If the matchbox was broken, or cracked, the
    testee failed.

    Although I never used a matchbox, his description challenged me, and I
    trained myself to do the same maneuver without the use of the
    handbrake. I rolled backward a few times, and stalled the engine many
    times, but eventually I would have done my dad proud.

    Good luck with your driving test - Martin.

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Subject: Re: [OT] Re[2]: Water injection
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Date:    6/16/98 1:14 PM

Hello and thanks to all who responded to my transmission question. I am
18 years old and I am in the process of getting my driver's license. I
have very rarely even been in manual transmission cars, and have never
driven one (I know some of you are going to think that this is pretty sad :)

I was aware that automatic tranmissions used transmission fluid, but I
wasn't sure whether it actually was used to couple the engine to the
wheels or if it was used to hydrolically shift regular gears. In any
event, I thought that manual transmission cars could also hold on a hill
(without brakes) without special clutch tricks, but I guess I was quite

Again thanks for all your help and the fascinating discussions,


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