Post by thread:Re: OT How to connect two PC directly without hub?

Hi PICer friends, sorry for this msg just a little OT, but I think this kind of problem can interest some of our. I have listen the possibility to connect two PC WIN95/98 between them, using two network card, with an UTP cat 5 cable and without the hub. Anyone know or have been experience about this type of direct connection? Anyone have some information about the naming of the wire/line? Thanks Ciao Leo -----Messaggio originale----- Da: WF AUTOMACAO <spam_OUTwfTakeThisOuTAMBIENTE.COM.BR> A: .....PICLISTKILLspam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <PICLISTKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU> Data: gioved“ 18 marzo 1999 21.48 Oggetto: Re: 68HC11 in EXPANDED MODE [MW] - OFF TOPIC {Quote hidden}>Cranston Grey wrote: >> >> Check out this site. It has links to at least three such circuits. >> >> Marvin Green's BotBoard 2 >> J. Fong's Finger Board >> Fred Martin's Handy board >> >> Probably more if you look around. >> >> Good Luck. >> >> http://www.ezl.com/~rsch/ >> >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >I Will see them! > >I give preference for 68hc11 F1 (Romless) series! I think that my problem >is that the 68hc11 don't accept RESET with RC circuit! Today i lost >12hours in this circuit! ;( > >Miguel >

At 04:20 PM 3/18/99 -0500, you wrote: >I have listen the possibility to connect two PC WIN95/98 between them, >using >two network card, with an UTP cat 5 cable and without the hub. > >Anyone know or have been experience about this type of direct >connection? >Anyone have some information about the naming of the wire/line? > > >All you need is a "crossover cable". Works fine. Download "The Hardware Book" by Joakim Ogren and it gives you the pinout. Andy \-----------------/ \ /---\ / \ | | / Andy Kunz \ /---\ / Montana Design /---------+ +---------\ http://www.montanadesign.com | / |----|___|----| \ | \/___| * |___\/ Go fast, turn right, and keep the wet side down!

Without a hub, you need a 'crossover' cable. The hub provides a crossover or link port and the rest are 'regular' connections. On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, Leonardo De Palo wrote: {Quote hidden}> Hi PICer friends, > > sorry for this msg just a little OT, but I think this kind of problem can > interest some of our. > > I have listen the possibility to connect two PC WIN95/98 between them, using > two network card, with an UTP cat 5 cable and without the hub. > > Anyone know or have been experience about this type of direct connection? > Anyone have some information about the naming of the wire/line? > > Thanks > > Ciao > > Leo > > > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: WF AUTOMACAO <.....wfKILLspam.....AMBIENTE.COM.BR> > A: EraseMEPICLISTspam_OUTTakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU <PICLISTspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU> > Data: giovedì 18 marzo 1999 21.48 > Oggetto: Re: 68HC11 in EXPANDED MODE [MW] - OFF TOPIC > > > >Cranston Grey wrote: > >> > >> Check out this site. It has links to at least three such circuits. > >> > >> Marvin Green's BotBoard 2 > >> J. Fong's Finger Board > >> Fred Martin's Handy board > >> > >> Probably more if you look around. > >> > >> Good Luck. > >> > >> http://www.ezl.com/~rsch/ > >> > >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >I Will see them! > > > >I give preference for 68hc11 F1 (Romless) series! I think that my problem > >is that the 68hc11 don't accept RESET with RC circuit! Today i lost > >12hours in this circuit! ;( > > > >Miguel > > > --------------------------------------------------------- [ Mike Powney {Pelham, AL} Empee at concentric dot net ] [ WWW: http://www.cris.com/~empee/ ] =========================================================

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Jose Antonio Gracia Negre wrote: > > Leonardo: > I have directly connected them with PERSONAL NETWARE of NOVELL and > works > In Windows, he works with: > station 1 normal station 2 > 1 w/orange 1 w/green > 2 orange 2 green > 3 w/green 3 w/orange > 4 blue 4 blue > 5 w/blue 5 w/blue > 6 green 6 orange > 7 w/brown 7 w/brown > 8 brown 8 brown > > greetings. > Jose Antonio Gracia I believe his question was not only related to the cross cable, but also how to preset Windows95/98 software to do that...

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At 18:15 03/20/99 +0100, Jose Antonio Gracia Negre wrote: >> I believe his question was not only related to the cross cable, >> but also how to preset Windows95/98 software to do that... > > Windows: > Start --> config. --> control panel ---> network > add client for Microsoft Networks > add adapter (ne2000?) > ADD PROTOCOL NETBEUI > [Add protocol ipx/spx] optional > ADD SHARED PRINTERS AND FILES > re - start the PC > My Pc > right click DRIVE C > Shared > Shared as ... (NEW NAME FOR NETWORK) i think both computers must have the same workgroup name in the identification tab of the network settings (hub or no hub). ge

>i think both computers must have the same workgroup name in the >identification tab of the network settings (hub or no hub). No. You just need to click on "entire network" to see the other workgroup. You can always specify the computer name and get to the files that way, no need to specify the workgruop at all. Andy \-----------------/ \ /---\ / \ | | / Andy Kunz \ /---\ / Montana Design /---------+ +---------\ http://www.montanadesign.com | / |----|___|----| \ | \/___| * |___\/ Go fast, turn right, and keep the wet side down!

At 20:45 21/03/99 +1000, you wrote: >Jose Antonio Gracia Negre wrote: > >> Also it is possible to be connected from a computer in MSDOS with >> another one in win95/98 using the system of network of win311 (without >> running Windows) > > Ah! Now I'm passably curious as to how you do that? >-- > Cheers, > Paul B. > There was a Microsoft program called Workgroup Add-on for MSDos which allowed a Dos machine to talk to a Windows for Workgroups Network - I don't know if it is still available or how it goes with Win95/98 Regards Peter Wilson Arago Computer Support Peachester Queensland Australia