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'RFD: comp.arch.home-designed moderated'
1998\04\07@053512 by Theo Markettos

                    REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
              moderated group comp.arch.home-designed

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
world-wide moderated Usenet newsgroup comp.arch.home-designed.
This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
Procedural details are below.

Newsgroup line:
comp.arch.home-designed Homebrew digital electronics design. (Moderated)

RATIONALE: comp.arch.home-designed

The topic of designing computers and peripheral devices at home is
discussed on the newsgroup alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt. While there
is a great deal of interest in this topic, many people avoid the
above newsgroup due to the fact that it is not moderated, and due to
similar terminology, the newsgroup gets flooded with off topic IBM
PC clone assembly questions. Measures taken to alleviate this
problem have failed to eliminate the off topic noise. It is
therefore proposed that a moderated forum be created, which will
allow the topic to be discussed in a noise free environment.

CHARTER: comp.arch.home-designed

A moderated forum to exchange ideas, techniques, problems,
solutions, and other information concerning the hobby of
electronics design and construction, specifically related to
digital machines and their peripherals.

Commercial advertisements (except when non-repetitive and
directly relevant to the topic of the group) are expressly
forbidden; it is up to the moderation group to make individual

Posting of binaries or other non-text content is not allowed;
authors should upload this data to an FTP or WWW site and
instead post a pointer to that site. An exception is made for
ASCII schematics.


MODERATOR INFO: comp.arch.home-designed

Moderation group alias:     <>
Bot-master: Jan-Derk Bakker <>

Daily moderators:
Moderator: Jan-Derk Bakker <>
Moderator: Ales Hvezda     <>
Moderator: Ian Stirling    <>

Moderation group:
Moderator: Jan-Derk Bakker <>
Moderator: Randy Gardner   <>
Moderator: Darren Guiden   <>
Moderator: Leon Heller     <>
Moderator: Ales Hvezda     <>
Moderator: Theo Markettos  <>
Moderator: Mark Sokos      <>
Moderator: Ian Stirling    <>

A 'bot moderator will be used, which will reject articles by
authors who have not read the posting guidelines. Articles rejected
by the 'bot will be forwarded to a group of three daily moderators
for review. These daily moderators will be appointed by a
moderation group of at least eight and at most twelve members who
will decide on moderation policy in general and the workings of the
'bot in particular. Moderation will follow the scheme outlined

The 'bot:

- auto-approves articles that match all of these:
 - known author
   OR keyword/phrase in article
   OR reply to approved article to the same set of newsgroups
 - article with no binary content
 - plain text, without markup encoding
- mails notification of non-approval to original authors,
 without an attempt to circumvent spamblocks
 - notification message explains moderation system,
   and points poster to relevant posting guidelines
- sends non-approved articles to the daily moderators
- uploads non-approved articles to a WWW site, and
 regularly posts a pointer to them
- scans for forged approvals and cancels

The daily moderators:
- individually check articles the 'bot rejected;
 - if at least one of the daily moderators think the
   article is on-topic, it gets posted
 - if it is reposted, the original author is notified
- in extreme cases cancel articles unanimously decided
 to be off-topic

The moderation group:
- appoints the daily moderators
- deals with group abuse that's not caught by the 'bot
 - it has the power to bar persistent abusers by
   unanimous decision for a period of up to
   30 days at a time
- deals with long-term moderation policy
- is obliged to post details of all moderation group
 decisions to the newsgroup
- if a moderation group member does not express an opinion
 on a matter, then their silence shall not be taken as
 supporting either side of a decision

Moderators of news.announce.newgroups and successor groups are
allowed blanket crossposting at their discretion.



This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this
phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed
newsgroup should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period
will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the
first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups),
after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote
taker if the discussion warrants it.  Please do not attempt to vote
until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and
"How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to
these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have
any questions about the process.


This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

 news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
 comp.arch.embedded, comp.home.automation,, sci.electronics.misc

and the following mailing lists: (pic microcontroller discussion list)
     subscribe via: (homebuilt processor discussion)
     subscribe via:

After the RFD has been officially posted to news.announce.newgroups
it will be reposted to:


Proponent: Mark Sokos     <>
Proponent: Theo Markettos <>
Mentor:    Simon Lyall    <>

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