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2003\12\12@111521 by Samuel BOUQUET

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I think I'm a bit too young to compeet with other's one, but here my
list:

1) Dell Inspiron (Laptop) 500m P-M, 1.5Ghz, Oct 2003, XP pro
2) Dell Dimension 2400 P4 2.4Ghz, January 03, Xp home, LCD screen
3) Home made Cyrix P150+ (120Mhz), Win98SE

Out of order: 4) PII or AMD, don't know
5) 3 HP (P120)

Those one are just retired
6) Olivetti PCS286 with CGA screen
7) Laptop Compaq LTE286,20MB, Dos

2 question
1) what is the min. requirement for a LINUX system (Speed and techno of
the uP, RAM and DD?)
2) where can i found a disk version of DOS and Pascal or Basic or C for
my laptop compaq LTE286. I want it to back up data on serial port for
embedded app.

My brother have use a Dragon32 in 82-87 (don't remember at all). I will
ask us what it happened to it

Sam

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OK, my list is probably small, but a little more varied than many.....
Is anyone else still actively using a 6502 based computer...? (I have a
customer who still uses a couple of PETs as IEEE
controllers!)

Main PC - 1GHz Pentium 3 (win98) in hacked case so the slots and drives
are all on the front. Many, many cables emerging.....

Tosh Tecra 500 laptop - (Win95/DOS) used almost exclusively in DOS mode
for bashing serial commands in & out of PIC/AVR based things.

Sony Vaio Picturebook  (win98) cute baby laptop used mainly for email on
holidays and CD duplication (External SCSI CD drives).

Sony VAIO PCG-FX-201 with no battery and dead CD drive (Win2K)- used as
an  internet terminal in the living room.
2GHz Athlon system recently built to test Windoze XP Media Edition, as I
build remote control widgets to control strange UK cable boxes with it.
(http://www.redremote.co.uk)

BBC Micro (6502 based), in custom rack case - comes in handy when I need
to hack up some sort of strange hardware protocol generator/analyser as
you can do accurate timing loops in BASIC or ASM!

Acorn A540 (ARM based) - I designed a lot of hardware in the past for
this range of machines, which were way ahead of their time but marketed
incompetently. I have still yet to find anything quicker/better than its BBC BASIC 5
for things like generating sine/thermistor lookup tables etc. for PIC
projects. Also holds some old PCB files from when I used PCB software that I wrote
many years ago. Often used as a serial port sniffer, but not much else.

Acorn Risc PC. Faster version of above - hardly ever used, and will
probably be the next thing to go when I need more room!

Ancient IBM 386 laptop, bought for peanuts for that occaison I need a
second DOS machine for serial port bashing etc.

..and of course a big box of assorted PC mainboards, cards, drives that
could probably make about two and a half PCs at a pinch!

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2003\12\12@120505 by Josh Koffman

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Samuel BOUQUET wrote:
> 1) what is the min. requirement for a LINUX system (Speed and techno of
> the uP, RAM and DD?)

This depends on what you want to do with it. If you just want to run a
command line system, anything from a 386 up will do it. If you want to
run a graphical interface, the requirements are a bit higher. You can
get Linux distributions that will run on a 386, 4MB of ram, and a floppy
drive. Just doin't expect to be able to run Netscape on them!

A good starting point might be http://www.linux.org

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2003\12\12@192956 by Neil Cherry

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Samuel BOUQUET wrote:

> 2 question
> 1) what is the min. requirement for a LINUX system (Speed and techno of
> the uP, RAM and DD?)

I've run RH9.0 on P90's with 500M HD's & 16M of ram. I'm careful about
what I load and no X.

I'd recommend a 1G drive, be selective about that packages, 32M ram
min for X. If you want Netscape or some other RAM hog 64M min.

> 2) where can i found a disk version of DOS and Pascal or Basic or C for
> my laptop compaq LTE286. I want it to back up data on serial port for
> embedded app.

Check out the Borland Museum For Turbo C and Pascal:

http://community.borland.com/museum/

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2003\12\12@234047 by Michael Davidson

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> 2 question
> 1) what is the min. requirement for a LINUX system (Speed and techno of
> the uP, RAM and DD?)

I remember running Linux, with X, on an old greyscale 486 IBM Thinkpad.
Think it had about 8 - 16mb RAM. I remember it had a pretty small
harddrive, ~100mb. It took some wittling to get X and the devtools on
there. It wasn't terribly fast, I could only run once LICQ and xterm. If I
ran anything more I seem to recall it segfaulting. It was a version of
slackware that installed via floppy. Don't remember the exact version, but
it would have been from around Redhat 5 days.

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2003\12\22@195749 by John Ferrell
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That brings up another question.
I have several generations of IBM PC's taking up space here. The oldest is
the first (active cassette interface, 64 mb motherboard). The newest in this
category is a PS2/M80 (386, 80M hard drive, used it to design the house I am
in). Is there any use for them other than hauling off to the landfill?
Oh ... there is also a TRS-80 II on that shelf as well.

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2003\12\22@203145 by Rick C.

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I have a Model 2 and 12. Long live TRSDOS.....
I think I paid over $6000 for the Model 12 and a daiseywheel printer and
Visicalc.

Rick

John Ferrell wrote:

> Oh ... there is also a TRS-80 II on that shelf as well.
>
> John Ferrell

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2003\12\22@211752 by John Ferrell

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But now they are simply robbing me of space...
I don't want to think about what I spent on them, I know they were worth it
though.

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> I have a Model 2 and 12. Long live TRSDOS.....
> I think I paid over $6000 for the Model 12 and a daiseywheel printer and
> Visicalc.
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2003\12\22@213910 by Russell McMahon

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It would be a crime not to keep an original IBM PC forever.

It would be a crime to keep an M80 :-)

The TRS80 will certainly have sentimental value in time.

   RM

> I have several generations of IBM PC's taking up space here. The oldest is
> the first (active cassette interface, 64 mb motherboard). The newest in
this
> category is a PS2/M80 (386, 80M hard drive, used it to design the house I
am
> in). Is there any use for them other than hauling off to the landfill?
> Oh ... there is also a TRS-80 II on that shelf as well.

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2003\12\23@013610 by Phillip Vogel

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I have a TRS80 Model I in the attic. Level I and Level II basic (via a
slide switch). I learned an awful lot with that machine...

P.

> > Oh ... there is also a TRS-80 II on that shelf as well.
> >
> > John Ferrell

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2003\12\23@062857 by Lyle Hazelwood

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I remember building my own parallel printer port for the TRS-80
Model 1. It was my first "hardware" project, but not my last.
I soon had an array of home interface hookups hardwired to the
computer, as well as a very early store bought X-10 interface.

Gosh that was a few years back. I even took out a loan to get
the "Big" model with 16K of RAM. Wow. How times change.

Lyle

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2003\12\23@085443 by John Ferrell

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I bought the floppy disk & controller for $800. That was the same year I
bought my wife a new Ford Mustang for $4500. I got a deal on a box of
Diskettes at $40.

My first printer was a model 15 teletype. The interface was a from ham radio
gleanings.
It evolved into Selectric IO printer from a scrapped IBM system.
The problem is that I still have some of this junk. I believe the landfill
is calling...

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2003\12\23@085651 by John Ferrell

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I think I am ready to commit the crime...

John Ferrell
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2003\12\23@115721 by Ken Walker

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I have 11 Nascoms, all working, and all with ZEAP :o) will probably be with
me forever.

My first ever computer was a TransTec, if anybody remembers them, huge
green/grey. It was in a box at collage. The owner had lost his temper with
it and threw it out of the third floor window, i was very lucky the neck on
the tube hadn't smashed. But i got it up and running.

Has anybody here in England seen the recent advert where two people were
staring at a green computer screen, onto which was very very very slowly
being drawn a frog or something similar, and the guy shouts, blinding,,,,,
this is gonna catch on. Well i remember the days :o)



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2003\12\23@172955 by Russell McMahon

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> I think I am ready to commit the crime...

If throwing out a "real" original IBM PC you may wish to ask who would want
it in exchange for freight.
I don't :-) - 10,000 km or so too far away, and I have one already


               RM

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2003\12\23@185754 by John Ferrell

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I need to verify that it is among the things on the shelf first.

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