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1999\04\23@175341 by Phil

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Hi all,

In advance thanks for any help,  thankyou for taking the time to consider
what may seem to be a simple question!

I've got under #100 to spend on a PIC programmer and i'm completely confused
and unsure what to buy.  I'd mainly be working with 16C/F84's but would what
to be able to program the 16C873/6's when I could get a hold of them.

My questions are really what future proofing programmers are available and
which in the view of the PicList comunity offer the best value /
specifications / design.  I preferably like it to have just a standard 40pin
zif.

Currently i'm using a home built jdm84 design with pip-02 software  - works
well.  But would like to be working with a gui interface and ability to
drive more (newer) chips when they become available.

Any suggestions or pointers to possible programmers or software updates for
what i've got would be most welcome.  (I'm quite happy just expanding or
re-designing converters for what i've got feel I could be missing out on the
bigger picture - ie Masm development suits from Microchip etc.)


Phil.

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> Hi all,
>
> In advance thanks for any help,  thankyou for taking the time to consider
> what may seem to be a simple question!
>
> I've got under #100 to spend on a PIC programmer and i'm completely
confused
> and unsure what to buy.  I'd mainly be working with 16C/F84's but would
what
> to be able to program the 16C873/6's when I could get a hold of them.
>
> My questions are really what future proofing programmers are available and
> which in the view of the PicList comunity offer the best value /
> specifications / design.  I preferably like it to have just a standard
40pin
> zif.
>
> Currently i'm using a home built jdm84 design with pip-02 software  -
works
> well.  But would like to be working with a gui interface and ability to
> drive more (newer) chips when they become available.
>
> Any suggestions or pointers to possible programmers or software updates
for
> what i've got would be most welcome.  (I'm quite happy just expanding or
> re-designing converters for what i've got feel I could be missing out on
the
> bigger picture - ie Masm development suits from Microchip etc.)
>
>
> Phil.
>

1999\04\23@215819 by chuck

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Phil,
I wrote an article for Nuts & Volts magazine that might help you out.
It's titled "Programming a Microchip PIC".
You can download it form my website at
http://www.elproducts.com
In it I describe the differences between 4 programmers.
For my money the best one was the EPIC programmer for $59.95 from
MELABS. I now sell it on my site for only $55.95. It comes with windows
software to program all the PICs except the 5X parts. It has a adapter
port to add sockets for the larger PICs but the software which supports
the new 16F87X parts, is included in the $55.95 price.
Check it out.

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1999\04\24@122245 by g.daniel.invent.design

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Phil,
If you switch to Atmel then the STK200 does all parts except the Mega.
the nearest equivalent to the 16C84 is about half the price and faster.
Check their new range, the STK200 starter kit can also be used as a
prototype board with ISP and is only about $50 US.

regards,
Graham Daniel.

Phil wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> In advance thanks for any help,  thankyou for taking the time to consider
> what may seem to be a simple question!
>
> I've got under #100 to spend on a PIC programmer and i'm completely confused
> and unsure what to buy.  I'd mainly be working with 16C/F84's but would what
> to be able to program the 16C873/6's when I could get a hold of them.

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