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'Problems with 16C620'
1996\09\25@143620 by ken

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I am having some problems with the PIC16C620 and was wondering if anyone
else has had similar problems.

Problem 1

Despite making sure that the CP bit was not set when I programmed them,
I now have 3 JW devices that have been erased but will not program
because the CP bit is now set.

Problem 2

I can program 620-JW and 620-04P devices on my PIC Start16B (firmware
2.0) but when I try to program SOIC 620's they will not program They
fail the verification as having all sorts of data which does not match,
but if you read the device it shows as being all 3FFF, if you then do
check blank it comes back and says the device is not blank. I am using a
DIL to SOIC adapter which is sold for PIC programmers and I have buzzed
out all of the pins and they are OK and go 1 to 1, any ideas.

Regards

Ken

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1996\09\25@175357 by vador Eduardo Tropea (SET)

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Hi Ken, here SET from Argentina:

>Problem 2

>I can program 620-JW and 620-04P devices on my PIC Start16B (firmware
>2.0) but when I try to program SOIC 620's they will not program They
>fail the verification as having all sorts of data which does not match,
>but if you read the device it shows as being all 3FFF, if you then do
>check blank it comes back and says the device is not blank. I am using a
>DIL to SOIC adapter which is sold for PIC programmers and I have buzzed
>out all of the pins and they are OK and go 1 to 1, any ideas.
I'm using the 622, I could be wrong, but are you sure that the pin layout of
the DIP part is the same as the SOIC part? I remmember a confution when I read
the data sheets, I connected bad the chip because there are 2 differents pin
layouts.

bye SET.

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1996\09\25@181939 by Scott Dattalo

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ken wrote:
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> I am having some problems with the PIC16C620....
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> Problem 1
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> Problem 2
> <snip>

Problem 3

The on-chip comparators require external active circuitry if you want
to provide any switching hysteresis. Of course, this applies to the
621 and 622 too.

Scott

1996\09\25@215505 by Jim Robertson

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At 06:05 PM 9/25/96 +0100, you wrote:
>I am having some problems with the PIC16C620 and was wondering if anyone
>else has had similar problems.
>
>Problem 1
>
>Despite making sure that the CP bit was not set when I programmed them,
>I now have 3 JW devices that have been erased but will not program
>because the CP bit is now set.


Ken,

In all, there are 8 code protection fuses in a 16C620. EVERYONE of them
must be left as "1" Due to my own little accident with a 14000, I can
confirm that there are multiple code protection fuses and they are
"ANDed" together.

It is likely you are still programming one or more code protect bits.
Examine your .HEX file and look for the config word line:

:02400E00LLHH[xx csum]
        ^config word

Ensure that bits 4,5,8-13 are ALL SET. If not, examine the __FUSES command
in your source file. Make sure this expression leaves the above bits set high.

If these bits are all high, then something is very wrong with the PS.

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When this happens you should be looking for clues in what is programmed
into the SOIC chip.

Are the errors always on the same bits? If so this can tell you if there is
poor contact or a short between pins etc.

The difference between a read and a blank check is the time it takes to send
the data to the PC. During this time, a floating pin may change state and give
different results. I can't say it is happening in your case but I have seen it
during development of my own programmers.

-Jim

P.S Can you let us know what the problem/s are when you get them sorted.

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