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'Pinout of the 80286, AGAIN'
1998\11\25@042652 by Fco. Luis Guillen

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       Sorry, I think that i hadn't explain very well.

       I'm designing a board for a ROBOT. It has a SIEMENS SAB80286 in a
PGA  package. The pinout and the instruction set is compatible with the
Intel i80286 CPU, but i cannot find the pinout of the i80286 and the
SAB80286.

       I'm a student and I'm doing the final project.


       Thankout very much, again...


               FRAN

1998\11\25@064623 by Stefan Sczekalla-Waldschmidt

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Hi,

"Fco. Luis Guillen" wrote:
>
>         Sorry, I think that i hadn't explain very well.
>
>         I'm designing a board for a ROBOT. It has a SIEMENS SAB80286 in a
> PGA  package. The pinout and the instruction set is compatible with the
> Intel i80286 CPU, but i cannot find the pinout of the i80286 and the
> SAB80286.
>
>         I'm a student and I'm doing the final project.


Than you should have already learned where to lookup such things...

Ok,

1.) goto the web-Page from intel or simens

2.) in case of simens go for semiconductors

3.) search for appropriate DATA-SHEETS

4.) Download appropriate DATA-SHEETs

5.) Print the Pinout, mostly found close to the end of these
data-sheets.

6.) Any questions, just ask.

7.) This Mailing-List is intended to be used mainly for discussions
   concerning Microcontrollers form Arizona Microchip called "PIC"


:-)

>
>         Thankout very much, again...
>
>                 FRAN

Kind regards

       Stefan

1998\11\25@074514 by paulb

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Stefan Sczekalla-Waldschmidt wrote:

> 5.) Print the Pinout, mostly found close to the end of these
> data-sheets.

 Eh?  Most datasheets I have seen have the pinout on the first page.
For example (let's get this back to PICs!) the 16F84 datasheet DS30430B.

 It's the *package dimensions* that are down the back end.
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 Cheers,
       Paul B.

1998\11\25@100616 by Stefan Sczekalla-Waldschmidt

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Hi,

"Paul B. Webster VK2BZC" wrote:
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> Stefan Sczekalla-Waldschmidt wrote:
>
> > 5.) Print the Pinout, mostly found close to the end of these
> > data-sheets.
>
>   Eh?  Most datasheets I have seen have the pinout on the first page.
> For example (let's get this back to PICs!) the 16F84 datasheet DS30430B.
>
>   It's the *package dimensions* that are down the back end.
> --
>   Cheers,
>         Paul B.

Sorry, you are definitely right !

Had something in mind with different package dimensions compared
somewhere at the ...

Kind regards

       Stefan

1998\11\25@124827 by William Chops Westfield

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   > >   I'm a student and I'm doing the final project.

   > Than you should have already learned where to lookup such things...

Only if he goes to a "lesser" school.  At the good schools, you get occupied
by electron mobility, circuit analysis and "object design" (I guess.  Im my
day it was "top down vs bottom up", and "recursive descent vs uh...")
Useful things like how to find and read a manufacturers data sheet are not
part of the ciriculum.

BillW

1998\11\25@173844 by Mark Willis

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William Chops Westfield wrote:
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>     > >   I'm a student and I'm doing the final project.
>
>     > Than you should have already learned where to lookup such things...
>
> Only if he goes to a "lesser" school.  At the good schools, you get occupied
> by electron mobility, circuit analysis and "object design" (I guess.  Im my
> day it was "top down vs bottom up", and "recursive descent vs uh...")
> Useful things like how to find and read a manufacturers data sheet are not
> part of the ciriculum.
>
> BillW

 Too true!  I once spent 25 minutes convincing an honors student in a
local college that such a thing as a 10-turn dial potentiometer existed
(Asking him to explain to me what, exactly, the locking 10-turn
(calibration?) pot on the partially disassembled (HP OScope?  Signal
generator?  I think it was a 'scope) we were sitting next to, WAS,
stumped him for 10+ of those minutes, admittedly <G>  He finally hemmed
& hawed & admitted that maybe such a thing existed <G>)  He'd used a
10-turn trim pot, of course, for the lab he'd taken (making a 1 uA
current meter with an op amp was the lab project there when I took that
lab.  Oooh aah.  High tech <EG>)

 Lock that man in a room with a Digi-Key catalog for a month <G>

 Takes a mix of tech knowledge & engineering knowledge to make a really
Good electrical engineer - you can't do a quality design job on
something if you don't know what parts exist to create it with, and you
can't do well unless you know what the "gotchas" are in there as well.
Some schools just teach theory...  Helps if engineers & techs know &
trust each other, too <G>

 Mark, spam_OUTmwillisTakeThisOuTspamnwlink.com

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