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1999\12\01@044316 by Andy Baker

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Is anyone using PIC Start+ on NT 4.0?

I've just spotted a comment on the Microchip Web site saying this doesn't
work, and am looking for confirmation.

If so, what programming software / hardware do people use on NT for 16F84's?

Thanks,

Andy

1999\12\01@045147 by Don McKenzie

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Andy Baker wrote:
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> Is anyone using PIC Start+ on NT 4.0?
>
> I've just spotted a comment on the Microchip Web site saying this doesn't
> work, and am looking for confirmation.
>
> If so, what programming software / hardware do people use on NT for 16F84's?

You will find the first program written for the 84 under NT is at:
Don's Download Dungeon:   http://www.dontronics.com/download.html
you will find it under Nigel Goodwin's software.

Hardware? any David Tait type programmer.

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programmer to a target board as they are one and the same. LOAD/RUN.
Straight away!! Hey, we can even do it now with the new all flash
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DIY KIT-119 Serial PIC Programmer.
This 8, and 18 pin PICmicro programmer Kit runs off the Parallel Printer
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1999\12\01@053133 by Clyde Smith-Stubbs

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On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 09:40:53AM -0000, Andy Baker wrote:
> Is anyone using PIC Start+ on NT 4.0?

YEs.

> I've just spotted a comment on the Microchip Web site saying this doesn't
> work, and am looking for confirmation.

It requires an extra driver, that you can download from the web site,
I believe. It may even be in the MPLAB download.

Regards, Clyde

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1999\12\01@053928 by Joseph Reed

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Thanks,

Any idea what the file / driver name is?

I can find no mention of an NT patch on the Microchip site.

Andy

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1999\12\01@074705 by Darrel Johansen

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Andy Baker wrote:
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> Is anyone using PIC Start+ on NT 4.0?
>
> I've just spotted a comment on the Microchip Web site saying this doesn't
> work, and am looking for confirmation.

That is an old notice.  Just download MPLAB v4.12 and install it.  The standard
PS+ driver works with all versions of Windows including NT.

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1999\12\01@080755 by Andy Baker

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I already have MPLAB 4.12.0.

I'll be avoiding 4.12.12 as it sounds like it has installation problems.

Thanks for the clarification.

Andy

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1999\12\01@093617 by James Paul

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Darrel,

Yes, but you have to get the latest revision of MPLAB from the
Microchip website that supports NT.  That being version 4.12.12.
I have been running NT on a 333 Mhz machine with 256 Meg of RAM
for about 8 months now without any problems.

                                        Regards,

                                          Jim




On Tue, 30 November 1999, Darrel Johansen wrote:

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1999\12\01@095108 by James Paul

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All,

I have MPLAB v4.12.12 installed on my 333 Mhz PC woth 256 Meg
Ram, and have had NO problems either with the installation or
with the running and use of the program.  Either you were
misinformed, or whomever told you that was an isolated
incident, or I was just lucky.  Either way, I have been using
Microchip products and software for years without any major
problems.  And when I did have a problem, an email to the FAE
or FSE usually brought satisfaction.  If they didn't know the
answer at that particular moment, they found the answer and got
back to me with a day or two.  I am really surprised at all the
negative remarks with Microchip software.  I mean afterall it's
virtually free.  Where else can you get a deal like this on
professionally written software, and the cost being basically
the cost of a phone call.  What else do you expect for nothing?
Anyway, that's my two cents worth.

                                           Regards,

                                             Jim



On Wed, 01 December 1999, Andy Baker wrote:

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> I already have MPLAB 4.12.0.
>
> I'll be avoiding 4.12.12 as it sounds like it has installation problems.
>
> Thanks for the clarification.
>
> Andy
>
> {Original Message removed}

1999\12\01@130141 by Quitt, Walter

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NOTHING bad intended.  The __CONFIG directive
IS broke for some processors.  Specifically
the 17C756 and some 18 part.  That's a fact.
We all write software and we all know about
bugs.  4.12.12 IS and interim release.  It
has copious release notes.  They readily admit
some stuff doesn't work under NT, too.  Like
my MPLAB-ICE 2000.  No biggie.

I was sooooo relieved last year when I could
split my projects into multiple files and
link stuff together.  Thank you Microchip!

I am VERY pleased with MPLAB.  Sure it has
some rough edges.  It is a work in progress.
I (atleast) understand this.  I use it A LOT!
Because of this (8+ hours a day) intimacy,
I notice some things others may not notice.
There has always been a work around though.
Pleasant or not.  Witness the sipped 302
Bank 0 message.  (That one bugs me alot,
actually but, I DON'T turn it off as it is
useful, sometimes.)  I do wish it would
tell me something similar about being
not being in the correct Peripheral bank....

I, too am VERY happy with my FAE.  John A
(our FAE) is a super dude.  We almost have
the 25LC640 mystery licked.  "Almost"...
more later on this.

As previously stated: "Wadda ya expect for free!"

Walt...

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1999\12\01@155929 by Darrel Johansen

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Jim,

NT was supported in earlier versions of MPLAB.  The only thing that's added
in
v4.12.12 is support for the 18Cxxx parts and an updated MPLAB-ICD driver.
PICSTART Plus has not changed in terms of its ability to run on NT.

That comment on the web site about PS+ is old and not valid.  Can someone
give me the URL where you see that message, and I'll get it eradicated!

Thanks,

Darrel Johansen


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On Tue, 30 November 1999, Darrel Johansen wrote:

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> Andy Baker wrote:
> >
> > Is anyone using PIC Start+ on NT 4.0?
> >
> > I've just spotted a comment on the Microchip Web site saying this
doesn't
> > work, and am looking for confirmation.
>
> That is an old notice.  Just download MPLAB v4.12 and install it.  The
standard
> PS+ driver works with all versions of Windows including NT.
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1999\12\02@033638 by Andy Baker

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Here's the URL:

www.microchip.com/10/Tools/PICmicro/Program/picstart/trouble/index.ht
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Thanks for everyone's help.

Andy

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1999\12\02@080850 by farmerpentium

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Mine's WIN 95, but I'm perplexed about this sort of post, since I found
that 4.12 wouldn't compile after the first time, although MPASM worked
separately.  Then I loaded 4.12.12 and this time the IDE is working 100%
I tend to suspect that something may have gotten corrupted in the
supposedly error-checked downloads.  If any truth in this then the
remedy is to refetch the package.

On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 13:05:52 -0000, you wrote:

>I already have MPLAB 4.12.0.
>
>I'll be avoiding 4.12.12 as it sounds like it has installation problems.
>
>Thanks for the clarification.
>
>Andy
>
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