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1999\09\24@133755 by Randy Brumbaugh

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so IS there a USENET newsgroup for PIC?

if so, where?

if not, why not?

1999\09\24@134636 by Andy Kunz

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At 10:38 AM 9/24/99 -0700, you wrote:
>so IS there a USENET newsgroup for PIC?
>
>if so, where?
>
>if not, why not?

This is much more convenient.  The mail list vs. newsgroup debate also
comes up periodically.  Your side loses that one, too.

Somebody actually went out and started one once about a year ago.  AFAIK,
he was the only subscriber.

Like I said, if you want on-topic only, join the parallax list.

Andy

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1999\09\28@163618 by Randy Brumbaugh

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Ahmmm. . well it is definitely not more convenient. . .

and a newsgroup would solve many of these problems that seem to be
fomenting rebellion in the list right now.

but you seem confused by USEnet -- a newsgroup has no subscribers
maybe you are thinking of something else?

What is a parallax list?

>
>This is much more convenient.  The mail list vs. newsgroup debate also
>comes up periodically.  Your side loses that one, too.
>
>Somebody actually went out and started one once about a year ago.  AFAIK,
>he was the only subscriber.
>
>Like I said, if you want on-topic only, join the parallax list.

1999\09\28@164831 by Andy Kunz

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>but you seem confused by USEnet -- a newsgroup has no subscribers
>maybe you are thinking of something else?

I meant subscribers in the sense of "people who log on and check the news."
Some browsers use "subscribe" others use "join."

>What is a parallax list?

Visit http://www.parallaxinc.com - it's a mailing list similar to the one
we have here, but it's a very low traffic site with very little noise and
lots of newbies.

Also very little interest, I stay subbed to it because I can help the
people there on occasion.  Just like here.

Andy

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1999\09\28@171112 by Andy Kunz
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At 02:02 PM 9/28/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Andy - -
>Please give me a link to the Parallax page with the mail list info.
>I've searched their site without any luck.

Here's the footer is assigns to every message passing through.

Andy


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1999\09\28@192119 by Sean H. Breheny

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I DO find this current format more convenient. I am often tired when I come
home from classes and I just quickly scan my email,and I see a topic or two
being discussed that I like and it encourages me to sit and read it. I
probably wouldn't check it as often if I had to open a newsreader. I like
receiving the list as email,so I just use one program for both regular
email and listservs that I am on.

Sean

At 01:34 PM 9/28/99 -0700, you wrote:
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1999\09\28@214017 by Dan Larson

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Those of us that have been around the Piclist have seen this cycle
of discord come and go many times. Most of us accept it reluctantly
as a fact of 'Net life.

I will have to comment that it seems that this time more destruction
was done then I can remember.  Several Piclist veterans have either
unsubscribed or threatened to.

Last time I remember things being really bad, it was again,
started by a religious argument.  I think someone's wife had
passed away and an innocent offer of prayer started the whole thing.

It is clear that the topic of religion can stir people up more than
anything I have seen.  Especially in an *international* forum, where
folks are highly likely to have widely varying spiritual beliefs, is
it dangerous to bring up religion.

This time around someone else started a huge battle over a
sarcastic remark in response to a newcomer's complaints about
the noise of the list.

Both the recent offense taken over the religious remarks, *and*
the "a plea for focus" war combined to have a very damaging effect.

If I had only three wishes for the PICList they would be:

1) Be tolerant of others, even if they piss you off, try real
  hard to bite your tongue.  The ensuing flame wars are far worse
  than the original offense.

2) If you must discuss religion, please use private email.

3) If you don't like the Piclist the way it is... UNSUBSCRIBE!
  Of course, for some, a t-shirt purchase is required to do
  be able to do this.

I really don't care about off topic discussions, I just hate
flame wars and TROLLS.


There, I have spoken my mind.

Dan

1999\09\29@082238 by Paul Brown

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I have to agree with Sean on this one.  The simple fact is that I only get
email.  I have email access at home, but not internet access.  I have both
email and internet access at work.   However, the company firewall blocks
the newsgroup feed.  I think that if you look around, you will see many
people in the same situation.

Paul A. Brown





"Sean H. Breheny" <RemoveMEshb7TakeThisOuTspamCORNELL.EDU> on 09/28/99 07:18:12 PM

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Subject:  Re: PIC and USEnet




I DO find this current format more convenient. I am often tired when I come
home from classes and I just quickly scan my email,and I see a topic or two
being discussed that I like and it encourages me to sit and read it. I
probably wouldn't check it as often if I had to open a newsreader. I like
receiving the list as email,so I just use one program for both regular
email and listservs that I am on.

Sean

At 01:34 PM 9/28/99 -0700, you wrote:
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| Amateur Radio Callsign: KA3YXM
| Electrical Engineering Student
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1999\09\29@190434 by Steve Ridley

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I also only have access to email. If USEnet is like "news group" then I
would not be able to access this.

Also aren't news groups the ones that cause you to receive a lot of SPAM.

Steve

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1999\09\30@083255 by paulb

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Steve Ridley wrote:

> Also aren't news groups the ones that cause you to receive a lot of
> SPAM.

 You *could* say that...   Mmmmmm.
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