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'Pic Simulator'
1995\11\23@202252 by MORBIUS

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Does anyone out there know where I could find a Pic similator for a
16C74 ?  All I have been able to find is one for the 54's.  I can't use
that one because I want to use the A/D converters.

Thanks in advance.
Chris Hecker

Only Death is colder than cold.

1995\11\23@211348 by Andrew Warren

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Chris Hecker <spam_OUTh93036753TakeThisOuTspamacs.saultc.on.ca> wrote:

> Does anyone out there know where I could find a Pic similator for a
> 16C74 ?  All I have been able to find is one for the 54's.  I can't
> use that one because I want to use the A/D converters.

Chris:

You can download Microchip's MPSIM simulator (which simulates ALL
their PICs) from their BBS or Web site.  The Web-site's URL is

       http://www.ultranet.com/microchip/

-Andy

Andrew Warren - .....fastfwdKILLspamspam@spam@ix.netcom.com
Fast Forward Engineering, Vista, California


'PIC simulator'
1996\07\25@082148 by fgunawan
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Is there any PIC simulator with source code? free or commercial.
Thanks

1996\07\25@093205 by Luigi Rizzo

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> Is there any PIC simulator with source code? free or commercial.

two students of mine have written one in C++. Once some cleanup has
been done, it will be made available (I expect some time in september).

       Luigi
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1996\07\25@132638 by Mike Bergen

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hey dude resend me the last message i got "pic sim" and "yamaha"


'PIC Simulator'
2000\03\11@115148 by Robert A. LaBudde
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<x-flowed>There was a thread a week ago about re-writing or improving the MicroChip
GPSIM PIC simulator.

Apparently no one was interested in this task.

Having thought it over, I'd be interested in participating in such an
endeavor. For me, programming it in MS Visual Basic would be easiest.

I think an object-oriented approach would allow plugging in of different
PICs without impacting the rest of the design. I would also have objects
for the pin interfaces, so more complex modeling could be used.


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2000\03\11@123759 by Andrew T Kelley

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I would also be interested... BUT I do Windows/ANSI C/C++.

Andrew K.
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 11:49:53 -0500 "Robert A. LaBudde" <EraseMEralspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTLCFLTD.COM>
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2000\03\11@163020 by Scott Dattalo

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On Sat, 11 Mar 2000, Robert A. LaBudde wrote:

> There was a thread a week ago about re-writing or improving the MicroChip
> GPSIM PIC simulator.

Umm, I think you mean MPSIM and not gpsim. MPSIM is the Microchip PIC
simulator. gpsim is the gnupic simulator. gpsim is open sourced and free
as in freedom. MPSIM is just free as in free beer. Those familiar with GPL
have heard this free beer versus freedom metaphor hundreds of times...

If you had cygwin installed on your windows PC, then I'm fairly certain
that a gpsim port to windows would not be too ominous - certainly easier
than starting from scratch.


> Apparently no one was interested in this task.
>
> Having thought it over, I'd be interested in participating in such an
> endeavor. For me, programming it in MS Visual Basic would be easiest.
>
> I think an object-oriented approach would allow plugging in of different
> PICs without impacting the rest of the design. I would also have objects
> for the pin interfaces, so more complex modeling could be used.

And just to be clear, what Darrel is proposing is releasing the DLL
interface documentation. That way you could embed MPSIM into a gui of your
choosing and then call the dll support functions for the simulation. Right
Darrel? But I imagine what would actually happen is that someone will come
up with a way to write scripts to simulate special situations.


But to reiterate,

   movf   MPSIM,w
   xorwf  gpsim,w
#ifdef LINUX_USER
   xorwf  MPSIM,f  ;)
#endif

Clear?

Scott

2000\03\13@054105 by Wesley Moore

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I am aware VB is very easy but I think it would be way too slow, thus
defeating the purpose of the exercise. I think you should talk to Andrew T
Kelley <@spam@k_andrewKILLspamspamJUNO.COM> about a C/C++ version.

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RMIT - BEng/BApp.Sc. 2nd Year

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2000\03\13@171419 by Robert A. LaBudde

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<x-flowed>At 09:39 PM 3/13/00 +1100, Wesley wrote:
>I am aware VB is very easy but I think it would be way too slow, thus
>defeating the purpose of the exercise. I think you should talk to Andrew T
>Kelley <spamBeGonek_andrewspamBeGonespamJUNO.COM> about a C/C++ version.

Everything is relative. VC may be a couple of times faster than VB on the
same computer, but that's not going to be an issue compared to the sluggish
performance of MPASM/MPSIM.

In 1987 I benchmarked an Alliant Unix-based machine in Fortran 77. This
$250k minicomputer with 4-processors was the principal computing machine
for an aerospace R&D center. A year or two ago I ran the same benchmark in
VB6 on a Pentium III 333 MHz. The VB6 was 60x faster than the Alliant. Sic
transit gloria mundi!


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