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'PIC START PLUS From Digi-Key'
1998\02\21@151839 by Mike

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I saw Bob Blick's comment about the PIC START--but that $148.88 price tag is
incorrect.  I just ordered it and it is $199.++.  Seems that Microchip
changed the price of it almost before the Digi-Key catalog came out.  I was
torqued!!! to say the least but ordered it anyway.  Its a shame that
Microchip would do something like that but ...  better let it go I guess.

Just wanted to save anyone else the pain that I went through at the time I
ordered mine.  Its not Digi-Key's fault, and the order lady I talked to when
I ordered mine was very polite and full of sorry's about the whole deal.  Be
nice if Microchip would give us a rebate if orderd during the three month
period of the Digi-Key catalog currently published.

Mike
Regards...
Mike Hall - "http://members.aol.com/mhall34450/"
WB8ICN
Dayton, Ohio

1998\02\21@154542 by Calvin

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Hello All,

I have a PicStart Plus programmer and I just can't get it to communicate
with my PC. When I run MPLAB and try to select the comm port for the
programmer, all the options appear dimmed. I tried changing the BWCC.DLL
driver, the MPPLUS.DLL, reinstalling MPLAB, checking the ports on the Device
Manager and configuring them manually, etc.
I have com2 available but so far I haven't been able to 'undimm' it in
MPLAB.

Please, help...

TIA

Gabriel Gonzalez
TGO Electronica

1998\02\21@162036 by Charles Laforge

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Just to add to this... if you are a student or an educational
institution make sure you ask for the educational discout on the
PICSTART PLUS.  I'm not sure whether you do this with Digikey directly
or if you have to go throught Microchip but since I got this information
from my Microchip Rep yours should also be aware of the details.

Just wanted to share this and hopefully save some people a few bucks.

Charles



>Date:         Sat, 21 Feb 1998 15:13:47 -0500
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>From:         Mike <.....wb8icnKILLspamspam@spam@DNACO.NET>
>Subject:      PIC START PLUS From Digi-Key
>To:           PICLISTspamKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU
>
>I saw Bob Blick's comment about the PIC START--but that $148.88 price
tag is
>incorrect.  I just ordered it and it is $199.++.  Seems that Microchip
>changed the price of it almost before the Digi-Key catalog came out.  I
was
>torqued!!! to say the least but ordered it anyway.  Its a shame that
>Microchip would do something like that but ...  better let it go I
guess.
>
>Just wanted to save anyone else the pain that I went through at the
time I
>ordered mine.  Its not Digi-Key's fault, and the order lady I talked to
when
>I ordered mine was very polite and full of sorry's about the whole
deal.  Be
>nice if Microchip would give us a rebate if orderd during the three
month
>period of the Digi-Key catalog currently published.
>
>Mike
>Regards...
>Mike Hall - "http://members.aol.com/mhall34450/"
>WB8ICN
>Dayton, Ohio
>


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1998\02\21@162915 by Sean Breheny

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At 01:20 PM 2/21/98 PST, you wrote:
>Just to add to this... if you are a student or an educational
>institution make sure you ask for the educational discout on the
>PICSTART PLUS.  I'm not sure whether you do this with Digikey directly
>or if you have to go throught Microchip but since I got this information
>from my Microchip Rep yours should also be aware of the details.
>
>Just wanted to share this and hopefully save some people a few bucks.
>
>Charles

Charles,

How much is the educational discount?

Thanks,

Sean


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1998\02\21@174318 by Ken Pergola
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Mike wrote:

> Be nice if Microchip would give us a rebate if orderd during the three month
> period of the Digi-Key catalog currently published.

Mike,

Give Microchip a call and explain the scenario. Who knows, *maybe* they'll give
you a break.
A lot of companies are pretty reasonable when it comes to customer service. You
just have to give them a try before you feel frustrated.

Good luck,

Ken Pergola

1998\02\21@194506 by Charles Laforge

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>From:         Sean Breheny <EraseMEshb7spam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTCORNELL.EDU>
>Subject:      Re: PIC START PLUS From Digi-Key
>To:           PICLISTspamspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU
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>At 01:20 PM 2/21/98 PST, you wrote:
>>Just to add to this... if you are a student or an educational
>>institution make sure you ask for the educational discout on the
>>PICSTART PLUS.  I'm not sure whether you do this with Digikey directly
>>or if you have to go throught Microchip but since I got this
information
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The Canadian rep informed me I could get the package for approx. $150
CND.  (Please don't quote me on this)  I am at work right now and don't
have my Digikey catalog handy but perhaps someone else can tell you what
the regularly go for in CND bucks.

Good Luck!

Charles

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1998\02\21@215702 by Herbert Graf

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> -----Original Message-----
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> [@spam@PICLISTKILLspamspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Charles Laforge
> Sent: February 21, 1998 19:45
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> Subject: Re: PIC START PLUS From Digi-Key

> >>or if you have to go throught Microchip but since I got this
> information
> >>from my Microchip Rep yours should also be aware of the details.
> >>
> >>Just wanted to share this and hopefully save some people a few bucks.
> >
> >How much is the educational discount?
>
> The Canadian rep informed me I could get the package for approx. $150
> CND.  (Please don't quote me on this)  I am at work right now and don't
> have my Digikey catalog handy but perhaps someone else can tell you what
> the regularly go for in CND bucks.

       Well in my Digikey catalog they list it at $199US, that comes to about
$280.59CND. Not a bad deal, more than $100 off, if the quote is correct.
TTYL

1998\02\21@220715 by Richard Nowak

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Open up Mplab.ini in the windows directory and under programmers set the
commport to the one that the picstart is connected to.

[programmers]
current=PRO MATE Device Programmer
0=PRO MATE Device Programmer
1=PICSTART Plus Dev. Programmer
commport=2

Rich

At 02:46 PM 2/21/98 -0600, you wrote:
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1998\02\22@001208 by Alvin Tan

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Charles Laforge wrote:

> The Canadian rep informed me I could get the package for approx. $150
> CND.  (Please don't quote me on this)  I am at work right now and
> don't
> have my Digikey catalog handy but perhaps someone else can tell you
> what
> the regularly go for in CND bucks.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Charles

       Is that price for the Educational version?  I am currently a
student at BCIT, but didn't know about the educational version.  I got
my Picstart Plus last December, and got it for around CDN $200 + Taxes =
$230.

Alvin

1998\02\22@084006 by Gene Norris

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The $148.88 price was a special offer at the end of last year which
expired on 12/31/97.  I am not sure when it started.  Just before the
end of the year I got a new Jameco catalog and noticed that the price
had jumped to $199 and then someone on this list mentioned the special
offer and I went out that day to purchase one that day.



At 03:13 PM 2/21/98 -0500, you wrote:
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1998\02\22@123009 by Charles Laforge

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I don't have the letter here with me but what I believe my Microchip
reprensentative said was the PicStart Plus was available to students for
$150 versus the $212 (I think thats the current CND Digikey price) it
normally sells.  I don't beleive its for an educational or slimmed down
version but for the full package.  You might have to order it through
your school or something... I'm not sure.  If i think about it I'll
contact my rep tommorow and get more details for you guys.

Actually, any Canadian reps on the list?

Charles



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1998\02\22@134705 by Robert McAtee

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Good Idea about the rebate Mike. After the gal told me it was just a
promotional price good in Dec 97 it took me several days to get over being
mad. Like you I finally ordered it. I wonder if the price difference was
worth the flak their sales persons must have received...... ==Mac==
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At 03:13 PM 2/21/98 -0500, you wrote:
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1998\02\23@135939 by andre

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Calvin wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I have a PicStart Plus programmer and I just can't get it to communicate
> with my PC. When I run MPLAB and try to select the comm port for the
> programmer, all the options appear dimmed. I tried changing the BWCC.DLL
> driver, the MPPLUS.DLL, reinstalling MPLAB, checking the ports on the Device
> Manager and configuring them manually, etc.
> I have com2 available but so far I haven't been able to 'undimm' it in
> MPLAB.
>
> Please, help...
>
> TIA
>
> Gabriel Gonzalez
> TGO Electronica

Hi Gabriel.

a few thing I will recommend it should work.
before you do any thing disconnect your mouse cable and
connect it with com2 to see your port is fine is yes continue

1. do not reinstall with out deleting old mplab .
2. run diskscan first.
3. rum memmaker
4. install new mplab
5. in system folder unchecked FIFO
6. restart your pc

Andre Abelian

let me know if you still have problem.








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1998\02\23@183338 by H.P.d.Vries

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Andre Abelian wrote:
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I've had a (similar) problem with my picstart-plus. It won't initialise
when my modem is in use and vice versa. Maybe this is because com2 and
com4 share IRQ? I still dont know exactly what it is, but I can't be
online and program pic's at the same time now ;)

Hans

1998\02\23@230940 by Richard Nowak

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Comm ports 1 and 3 typically share the same IRQ as does comm ports 2 and 4.
You can't have two devices operating at the same time both using the same IRQ.

I received a message from Gabriel stating that his problem got fixed when he
made the edit in the Mplab.ini file as I suggested.  He claims that it did
not fix the "dim" selections problem however.

Rich

At 09:38 PM 2/23/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Andre Abelian wrote:
>>
>> Calvin wrote:
>>
>> > Hello All,
>> >
>> > I have a PicStart Plus programmer and I just can't get it to communicate
>> > with my PC. When I run MPLAB and try to select the comm port for the
>> > programmer, all the options appear dimmed. I tried changing the BWCC.DLL
>> > driver, the MPPLUS.DLL, reinstalling MPLAB, checking the ports on the
Device
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