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'PIC Development Systems Comparisons'
1996\10\31@104437 by Jamie W. Burnside

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Fellow PICers,

I am planning to select a PIC development system at work, primarily to
develop applications for the new 12C50X controller (for size and power
reasons).  I am a little bewildered by the choices of systems
available.  For instance, you can by the entry level system from
MicroChip consisting of the PICSTART-PLUS for assembler, simulator and
programmer, plus the ICE PIC in-circuit emulator for a total system
cost of under $1000.  At the high end, you can by the PICMASTER
development system with the MPLAB software and the PROMATE programmer,
for a total system cost of about $3400.  I did not hear a compelling
reason to spend the additional money for the higher end system from the
folks at MicroChip (perhaps because I didn't speak to the right
person), but I would guess you get something for the additional money.

Would the experienced PIC users care to offer some guidance in
selecting a development system?  My personal bias is towards ease of
use rather than the absolute lowest price.  Any help is appreciated.

TIA,

Jamie Burnside

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Jamie W. Burnside        M.I.T. Lincoln Laboratory
spam_OUTjburnsideTakeThisOuTspamll.mit.edu     244 Wood Street, Rm. D-353
Phone: 617-981-4511      Lexington, MA  02173 USA
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1996\10\31@124600 by Bob Fehrenbach

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"Jamie W. Burnside" <.....jburnsideKILLspamspam@spam@LL.MIT.EDU> wrote:
>I am planning to select a PIC development system at work, primarily to
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  If you have the cash, get the PICMASTER  - one of the best.

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Bob Fehrenbach    Wauwatosa, WI     bfehrenbspamKILLspamexecpc.com

1996\10\31@190154 by Craig Knotts

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    I haven't used the ICE PIC emulator, but I have used the PICMaster for
    several years now, and can recommend it highly.


'PIC Development Systems Comparisons'
1996\11\01@001258 by tjaart
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Jamie W. Burnside wrote:
>
> Fellow PICers,
>
> I am planning to select a PIC development system at work, primarily to
> develop applications for the new 12C50X controller (for size and power
> reasons).  I am a little bewildered by the choices of systems
> available.  For instance, you can by the entry level system from
> MicroChip consisting of the PICSTART-PLUS for assembler, simulator and
> programmer, plus the ICE PIC in-circuit emulator for a total system
> cost of under $1000.  At the high end, you can by the PICMASTER
> development system with the MPLAB software and the PROMATE programmer,
> for a total system cost of about $3400.  I did not hear a compelling
> reason to spend the additional money for the higher end system from the
> folks at MicroChip (perhaps because I didn't speak to the right
> person), but I would guess you get something for the additional money.
>
> Would the experienced PIC users care to offer some guidance in
> selecting a development system?  My personal bias is towards ease of
> use rather than the absolute lowest price.  Any help is appreciated.

I've used the ICEPIC and the PICMASTER. I prefer the PICMASTER though.
The PICSTART plus is a nice programmer for development.

I'm currently using MPLABC (also quite expensive) and cannot beleive I
programmed in assembly for so long!

Home-made programmers are usually a pain in the backside because you
don't (usually) get frequent softwate upgrades.

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Friendly Regards

Tjaart van der Walt
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1996\11\01@055444 by Andy David
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>
>    If you have the cash, get the PICMASTER  - one of the best.
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> --
> Bob Fehrenbach    Wauwatosa, WI     .....bfehrenbKILLspamspam.....execpc.com

Yes, I agree. I've used RICE16, Icepic and PICMaster...
going back to the picmaster after using the other two
was when I realised that it is better. MPLAB is also
better than the software that drives RICE16 or Icepic;
when working with the RICE16 or Icepic I still do a
fair amount of work using the simulator in MPLAB before
using the Icepic/RICE16.

The RICE16 and Icepic *are* capable tools, though, each
with good points.

- Andy.

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1996\11\01@093737 by Jamie W. Burnside

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Thanks to all who responded.  Since the PICMASTER seems to have
universal approval (with the possible exception of the price ;-), I
will probably go with it.  My compliments to this group for the rapid
and helpful posts.

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Jamie W. Burnside        M.I.T. Lincoln Laboratory
jburnsidespamspam_OUTll.mit.edu     244 Wood Street, Rm. D-353
Phone: 617-981-4511      Lexington, MA  02173 USA
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1996\11\01@135343 by fastfwd

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Jamie W. Burnside <@spam@PICLISTKILLspamspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU> wrote:

> Thanks to all who responded.  Since the PICMASTER seems to have
> universal approval (with the possible exception of the price ;-), I
> will probably go with it.  My compliments to this group for the
> rapid and helpful posts.

Jamie:

I have a couple of PICMASTERs, and I believe they're the best PIC
emulators, but I can sympathize with the price issue.  You might want
to take a look at the $700 ICEPIC emulators; they have minor software
problems now, but by this time next year, Microchip will probably
have them running under MPLAB.

-Andy

Andrew Warren - KILLspamfastfwdKILLspamspamix.netcom.com
Fast Forward Engineering, Vista, California
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2499

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