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'OT How to connect two PC directly without hub?'
1999\03\18@162028 by Leonardo De Palo

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Hi PICer friends,

sorry for this msg just a little OT,  but I think this kind of problem can
interest some of our.

I have listen the possibility to connect two PC WIN95/98 between them, using
two network card, with an UTP cat 5 cable and without the hub.

Anyone know or have been experience about this type of direct connection?
Anyone have some information about the naming of the wire/line?

Thanks

Ciao

Leo



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1999\03\18@162443 by Dave VanHorn

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I have listen the possibility to connect two PC WIN95/98 between them,
using
two network card, with an UTP cat 5 cable and without the hub.

Anyone know or have been experience about this type of direct
connection?
Anyone have some information about the naming of the wire/line?


All you need is a "crossover cable". Works fine.

1999\03\18@165123 by Andy Kunz

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At 04:20 PM 3/18/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I have listen the possibility to connect two PC WIN95/98 between them,
>using
>two network card, with an UTP cat 5 cable and without the hub.
>
>Anyone know or have been experience about this type of direct
>connection?
>Anyone have some information about the naming of the wire/line?
>
>
>All you need is a "crossover cable". Works fine.

Download "The Hardware Book" by Joakim Ogren and it gives you the pinout.

Andy

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1999\03\18@190333 by EMPEE

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Without a hub, you need a 'crossover' cable. The hub provides a crossover
or link port and the rest are 'regular' connections.



On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, Leonardo De Palo wrote:

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1999\03\19@045153 by Jose Antonio Gracia Negre

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           greetings.
                           Jose Antonio Gracia



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1999\03\19@103828 by Wagner Lipnharski

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Jose Antonio Gracia Negre wrote:
>
> Leonardo:
>     I have directly connected them with PERSONAL NETWARE of NOVELL and
> works
>     In Windows, he works with:
>     station 1 normal                        station 2
>             1 w/orange                         1 w/green
>             2 orange                             2 green
>             3 w/green                           3 w/orange
>             4 blue                                 4 blue
>             5 w/blue                             5 w/blue
>             6 green                               6 orange
>             7 w/brown                          7 w/brown
>             8 brown                              8 brown
>
>             greetings.
>                             Jose Antonio Gracia

I believe his question was not only related to the cross cable,
but also how to preset Windows95/98 software to do that...

1999\03\20@121924 by Jose Antonio Gracia Negre

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Wagner Lipnharski escribi—:

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 Windows:
       Start  -->  config. --> control panel ---> network
                   add client for Microsoft Networks
                   add  adapter (ne2000?)
                   ADD PROTOCOL NETBEUI
                   [Add protocol ipx/spx] optional
                   ADD SHARED PRINTERS AND FILES
       re - start the PC
       My Pc
       right click DRIVE C
       Shared
           Shared as ...  (NEW NAME FOR NETWORK)

           NETWORK ENVIRONMENT
                   in network environment side the other computer, if it
is, to assign a letter of
             unit
           the unit also shares from a session DOS


             Also it is possible to be connected from a computer in MSDOS
with another one in win95/98 using the system of network of win311 (without
running Windows)





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1999\03\20@133528 by Gerhard Fiedler

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At 18:15 03/20/99 +0100, Jose Antonio Gracia Negre wrote:
>> I believe his question was not only related to the cross cable,
>> but also how to preset Windows95/98 software to do that...
>
>  Windows:
>        Start  -->  config. --> control panel ---> network
>                    add client for Microsoft Networks
>                    add  adapter (ne2000?)
>                    ADD PROTOCOL NETBEUI
>                    [Add protocol ipx/spx] optional
>                    ADD SHARED PRINTERS AND FILES
>        re - start the PC
>        My Pc
>        right click DRIVE C
>        Shared
>            Shared as ...  (NEW NAME FOR NETWORK)

i think both computers must have the same workgroup name in the
identification tab of the network settings (hub or no hub).

ge

1999\03\21@044722 by paulb

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Jose Antonio Gracia Negre wrote:

>  Also it is possible to be connected from a computer in MSDOS with
> another one in win95/98 using the system of network of win311 (without
> running Windows)

 Ah!  Now I'm passably curious as to how you do that?
--
 Cheers,
       Paul B.

1999\03\22@115335 by Andy Kunz

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>i think both computers must have the same workgroup name in the
>identification tab of the network settings (hub or no hub).

No.  You just need to click on "entire network" to see the other workgroup.
You can always specify the computer name and get to the files that way, no
need to specify the workgruop at all.

Andy

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1999\03\22@155807 by Peter Wilson

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At 20:45 21/03/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Jose Antonio Gracia Negre wrote:
>
>>  Also it is possible to be connected from a computer in MSDOS with
>> another one in win95/98 using the system of network of win311 (without
>> running Windows)
>
>  Ah!  Now I'm passably curious as to how you do that?
>--
>  Cheers,
>        Paul B.
>
There was a Microsoft program called Workgroup Add-on for MSDos which
allowed a Dos machine to talk to a Windows for Workgroups Network - I don't
know if it is still available or how it goes with Win95/98


Regards

Peter Wilson
Arago Computer Support
Peachester Queensland
Australia

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