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>>Hi all, I am wondering! What is the average age of piclist subscribers?
>>I usually hear stories about the 70s, which unfortunately I was still a
>>baby. BTW, I am still 26 :). regards, Reggie.
My "average age" is 24... but I'm 48.
Ehm.. it's a joke :-)
> I am wondering! What is the average age of piclist subscribers?
> I usually hear stories about the 70s, which unfortunately I was still a
> baby.
>
> BTW, I am still 26 :).
>Hi all,
>
>I am wondering! What is the average age of piclist subscribers?
>I usually hear stories about the 70s, which unfortunately I was still a
>baby.
>
>BTW, I am still 26 :).
>
>regards,
>Reggie
>
I'd make a wild uninformed guess that the average age is in the
thirties or forties somewhere, but there is an enormous range.
I turned (2^6)-1 last Christmas day and I'm certainly not
the oldest one.
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I am wondering! What is the average age of piclist subscribers?
>>I usually hear stories about the 70s, which unfortunately I was still a
>>baby.
>>
>>BTW, I am still 26 :).
>>
>>regards,
>>Reggie
>>
>
> I'd make a wild uninformed guess that the average age is in the
> thirties or forties somewhere, but there is an enormous range.
>
> I turned (2^6)-1 last Christmas day and I'm certainly not
> the oldest one.
>
> The Other Reggie
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>Hi all,
>
>I am wondering! What is the average age of piclist subscribers?
>I usually hear stories about the 70s, which unfortunately I was still a
>baby.
>
>BTW, I am still 26 :).
>
>regards,
>Reggie
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> >
> >I am wondering! What is the average age of piclist subscribers?
> >I usually hear stories about the 70s, which unfortunately I
> was still a
> >baby.
> >
> >BTW, I am still 26 :).
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I would say "human beings exchanging information"....my computer doesn't
care how old you are, but me...probably. I will be 0x28 on July the 4th of Y2K.
Hi all,
I can remember in high school seeing articles about fluidics. You could
machine a thin piece of metal or plastic and make a flip flop out of it.
You could make a whole slew of flip flops in less volume than a drafting
eraser. Obviously, with this level of miniaturization, the future of
electronics was limited.
You could buy a Nuvistor that was only a little bigger than a transistor.
Yes, you could still get the good old Raytheon CK-722 transistor. Never
could get one of them to work. Selenium diodes were everywhere, silicon
diodes could be had if you could afford them and didn't want very high
PIV's. Electrolytic capacitors leaked...physically not necessarily
electrically. Tunnel diodes were written about in Scientific American.
Time was being kept on battery-powered transistor-driven tuning forks
otherwise known as Bulova Accutrons. You could still buy "B" batteries, 90
to 125 volts, for "portable" radios. Vibrators, not what you think, were
still around as replacement parts to switch the 6 volt auto electric
circuits through a transformer to generate the B+.
A key troubleshooting tool was available from RCA. It looked like a wooden
pencil with two large erasers at right angles to the pencil, a little like
a two headed hammer. It was used to tap on tubes and see which ones
sparked, or flashed or otherwise failed. This test was the second or third
thing you tried in troubleshooting...never fourth! Portable meters were
invariably volt-ohm-meters. Cheap ones were 1000 ohms per volt, expensive
ones were 20000. Vacuum Tube Volt Meters (VTVM's) were as accurate as
anyone needed and they had an input resistance of 11 M ohms.
The calculator you used was often referred to as a "sly drool",
"slipstick", or even an analog computer. Heathkit sold an analog computer
for around $700, mostly to schools.
By the way, I'm 52. Born the same year as the transistor, and the first
oil well drilled by the US in Iran. And somehow, I feel like I'm just a
baby. I used to have a collection of QST magazines going back to the
1940's.
As a young kid, I remember days before television. We seemed to have a lot
more time then. But then I digress from my previous digressions.
> From: Regulus Berdin <rberdinEraseME.....BIGFOOT.COM>
> To: EraseMEPICLISTMITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: OT: getting on
> Date: Monday, January 25, 1999 12:42 AM
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am wondering! What is the average age of piclist subscribers?
> I usually hear stories about the 70s, which unfortunately I was still a
> baby.
>
> BTW, I am still 26 :).
>
> regards,
> Reggie
>
Ken, I just turned 49 and it's nice to know there are so many others
here that remember the same Rock'n'Roll ;-)
Actually, I'm amazed I'm still alive... I wish it were possible to
get all of us who remember the `Golden Era' of microprocessors, to write
a book. Like veterans, we all have been down similar paths and have a lot
of stories to share.
- Tom
At 10:26 PM 1/25/99 +1100, Ken Johnson wrote: {Quote hidden}
>Right on Glen, I hit the big five-0 just before christmas and can confirm
>life just keeps getting better!!
>
>Cheers, (and long time no see- ex vk5ken) Ken, RemoveMEvk7krjEraseMEEraseMEsouthcom.com.au
>
>> BTW I am rapidly approaching 49 - and I am convinced that "life"
>actually
>>begins at 50 !!!
>>
>> Glenville.
>>
>
>
>My "average age" is 24... but I'm 48.
>Ehm.. it's a joke :-)
>
>Roberto
Roberto, LOL!!! Actually my age varies. Last summer I thought I was
18 and my broken ankle kept me down for two months. Other times, I
could swear I was 90 (argghhh...) ;-)
> Ken, I just turned 49 and it's nice to know there are so many others
>here that remember the same Rock'n'Roll ;-)
>
> Actually, I'm amazed I'm still alive... I wish it were possible to
>get all of us who remember the `Golden Era' of microprocessors, to write
>a book. Like veterans, we all have been down similar paths and have a lot
>of stories to share.
>
> - Tom
>
>At 10:26 PM 1/25/99 +1100, Ken Johnson wrote:
>>Right on Glen, I hit the big five-0 just before christmas and can confirm
>>life just keeps getting better!!
>>
>>Cheers, (and long time no see- ex vk5ken) Ken, RemoveMEvk7krjKILLspamsouthcom.com.au
>>
>>> BTW I am rapidly approaching 49 - and I am convinced that "life"
>>actually
>>>begins at 50 !!!
>>>
>>> Glenville.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I am wondering! What is the average age of piclist subscribers?
>>I usually hear stories about the 70s, which unfortunately I was still a
>>baby.
>>
>>BTW, I am still 26 :).
>>
>>regards,
>>Reggie
>>
>
> I'd make a wild uninformed guess that the average age is in the
> thirties or forties somewhere, but there is an enormous range.
>
> I turned (2^6)-1 last Christmas day and I'm certainly not
> the oldest one.
>
> The Other Reggie
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:24:46 -0800, Tom Handley wrote:
> Ken, I just turned 49 and it's nice to know there are so many others
>here that remember the same Rock'n'Roll ;-)
>
> Actually, I'm amazed I'm still alive... I wish it were possible to
>get all of us who remember the `Golden Era' of microprocessors, to write
>a book. Like veterans, we all have been down similar paths and have a lot
>of stories to share.
>
I was just a kid, but I was inspired early on by a series of
articles or just a single article on the "PIP-2". A four
bit home-brew micro I think. I read the article and never saw
it again. I wanted to build one really bad. Then I followed
the ELF-II series. I built a kit version with the nice PC
board & keypad. Broke my machine code teeth on the 1802.
When I got my TRS-80, I was doing Z-80. BASIC was no fun...
too slow, although much easier when it came to doing math!
Let's see,,,, then on to the Radio Shack Color Computer... 6809
assembly there.... Oooh, I'll stop there..... It gets ugly
after that.... (PC's).
One thing for sure.... I never learned to trust
storing anything on tapes of any kind again after
living through *that* era!
Dan
BTW, I've been representing my age with 6 bits for 4
years now...
> - Tom
>
>At 10:26 PM 1/25/99 +1100, Ken Johnson wrote:
>>Right on Glen, I hit the big five-0 just before christmas and can confirm
>>life just keeps getting better!!
>>
>>Cheers, (and long time no see- ex vk5ken) Ken, EraseMEvk7krjEraseMEsouthcom.com.au
>>
>>> BTW I am rapidly approaching 49 - and I am convinced that "life"
>>actually
>>>begins at 50 !!!
>>>
>>> Glenville.
>>>
>>
>>
>
<snip>
>>
>> I'd make a wild uninformed guess that the average age is in the
>> thirties or forties somewhere, but there is an enormous range.
>>
>> I turned (2^6)-1 last Christmas day and I'm certainly not
>> the oldest one.
>>
>> The Other Reggie
Well, I'm 49 heading to 50 this year, and I suspect that there is
a higher representation in the 45-55 age group than you might expect.
Those who were like me, in their early 20's when micro's first became
readily available.
I remember the Ohio Scientific, we used to make add-on memory cards
and stuff for it. But my real favourite of those times was the AIM 65
It had a "assembler" well kind of a mnemonic translator anyway.
On board printer and an alphanumeric display. 2K of 2114's.. There
was even a version of fig-Forth in eprom.
Programming PIC's is a bit like those early days, except everything
now is cheaper faster lower-powered.
How many folks out there can remember converting "golf-ball" typewriters
and Model 15 teletypes to print out memory dumps and then spending days
and days poring over them to find some miscalculated branch or corrupted
memory location.... I can't imagine doing that anymore!...
><snip>
>>>
>>> I'd make a wild uninformed guess that the average age is in the
>>> thirties or forties somewhere, but there is an enormous range.
>>>
>>> I turned (2^6)-1 last Christmas day and I'm certainly not
>>> the oldest one.
>>>
>>> The Other Reggie
>
>Well, I'm 49 heading to 50 this year, and I suspect that there is
>a higher representation in the 45-55 age group than you might expect.
>Those who were like me, in their early 20's when micro's first became
>readily available.
>
>I remember the Ohio Scientific, we used to make add-on memory cards
>and stuff for it. But my real favourite of those times was the AIM 65
>It had a "assembler" well kind of a mnemonic translator anyway.
>On board printer and an alphanumeric display. 2K of 2114's.. There
>was even a version of fig-Forth in eprom.
>
>Programming PIC's is a bit like those early days, except everything
>now is cheaper faster lower-powered.
>
>How many folks out there can remember converting "golf-ball" typewriters
>and Model 15 teletypes to print out memory dumps and then spending days
>and days poring over them to find some miscalculated branch or corrupted
>memory location.... I can't imagine doing that anymore!...
>
>
>Ray Gardiner VK3YNV TakeThisOuTrayKILLspamspamhdc.com.au
At 11:02 01/26/99 -0500, Rich Graziano wrote:
>Perhaps the MEDIAN age would be a better measure than the MEAN.
in any case mine became 39 yesterday. my first birthday in the usa. did you
know that they want the exact date of =any= previous visit to the usa from
new residents in the first tax declaration? i have no way of finding that
out and answering that question "truthfully." maybe that's a provision to
always be able to legally deport me later, if they decide they want to do
that... :-)
I'm 36.
I was a little bit too late for the 'golden age', but I used to read
Osborne's book on microprocessors (part III, everything from MicroNova and
1802 to 8086, 99000 and 68000) before I got to sleep. I designed my own
CP/M computers on paper, but never got to build them. I'm a software
professional, but with a soft spot for hardware.
Wouter.
I turned 59 this month.
Back in my day we had to walk 20 miles barefoot in the snow to program
PICs. We made our own chips from melted sand and programmed them using
Roman numerals. We were REAL programmers back then, not wussies using
assemblers and programming languages.
> I'd make a wild uninformed guess that the average age is in the
> thirties or forties somewhere, but there is an enormous range.
>
> I turned (2^6)-1 last Christmas day and I'm certainly not
> the oldest one.
>
> The Other Reggie
>
I was going to keep my mouth shut, but I am 14.2 lustrum old and
have had the Amateur call W3NMK since 1947.
Well looks like you are all kids, I'm going on 61. Boy that is hard to say,
just does not seem that much time has passed. zzzzzzzzzz oh yes, where was
I?
I started working on computers in the mid 60's when the registers consisted
of flip-flops constructed from transistors, diodes and resistors(talk about
low level trouble shooting). This was before integrated circuits, they may
have been invented by that time but I had never heard of them.
Well my first computer was a Southwest Tech, It was a kit (the only way it
came) 6800 CPU and a whopping 4K static ram(pre dynamic). It had the
switches on the front panel so you could load your program one byte at a
time. In those days the terminal of choice was a Teletype (110 or 300
baud). The next machine I owned was an Apple II with 16K memory and a
keyboard, a Sony TV was the monitor. There was no floppy disk drives
available when I bought the machine but Apple promised they would start
shipping them in a few months. I had never seen a floppy but wanted one bad
enough to place a deposit (90% of the cost) for one when I bought the Apple
II.
Time has been good to the microprocessor world and I am glad.
I am just getting involved with microcontrollers and to me it is very
exciting because it reminds me of the 70's.
Back in my day we had to walk 20 miles barefoot in the snow to program
PICs. We made our own chips from melted sand and programmed them using
Roman numerals. We were REAL programmers back then, not wussies using
assemblers and programming languages.
I'm 39. While the above is amusing, it's pretty sobering to think that
I first became interested in PICs about 10 years ago, when they were
first available from parallax, and were (I think) the first small-pinout
micro to hit the market. While 10 years doesn't seem so long ago to me,
some of our younger list members were still in grade school...
>I'm 39. While the above is amusing, it's pretty sobering to think
that
>I first became interested in PICs about 10 years ago, when they were
>first available from parallax, and were (I think) the first
small-pinout
>micro to hit the market. While 10 years doesn't seem so long ago to
me,
>some of our younger list members were still in grade school...
>
>BillW
>
Depends on what counts as "small pinout".
There were "20 something" pin 6805 versions (24? 28?) before that
(back in them thar NMOS days).
Motorola made a 16 pin "1 bit" processor (Don't ask!!!) (MC144xx???)
before that, possibly early 80's or before, which had about 8
instructions. ALL instructions were cycled through in sequence with
the logic unit being turned off and on as required to process
instructions. Branching back a few instructions could be rather slow!
Regulus Berdin wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am wondering! What is the average age of piclist subscribers?
> I usually hear stories about the 70s, which unfortunately I was
> still a baby.
.. And walking under the computer's table - isn't it ? ;-))
Just a piece of russian humor.
Regulus Berdin wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am wondering! What is the average age of piclist subscribers?
> I usually hear stories about the 70s, which unfortunately I was still
a
> baby.
>
> BTW, I am still 26 :).
Hello Reggie ;-)
As I've seen I'm not a little 28 year aged one among the giants ...
This probably promise that computer's spirit will never dissapear ;-)
00101010 here, just old enough to recall, as a toddler,
seeing John Kennedy in a US presidential campaign
appearance in Utica, NY.
First computer experience was a BASIC program written for
a computer at the Hercules plant in Hudson (or was it
Glens?) Falls, NY, around 1970 or so -- a Boy Scout field
trip.
Worked with an IBM 1130 in college (running a custom,
local-written DOS... had three error codes, "hung",
"loop" and "stop", all of which were at the discretion
of the operator based on what the register lights were
doing), lots of IBM 360s (20, 75, 91, etc) in the late
'70s and early '80s -- anyone else recall submitting jobs
on card punch decks to OS/MFT? TSO was a big improvement...
"that 300K region only has three jobs in the queue;
if I cut my data set in half I can probably squeze
into that..."
My first first real job was in 1980 as a contractor
at NASA Goddard; besides the IBMs, we used lots of DEC
machines... PDP-8, PDP-11. RSTS-11, RSX-11M, standalone
Forth. One PDP-8 we used to run a microdensitometer,
one had to toggle in the boot loader so it could read the
OS off of the paper tape reader on the teletype terminal,
or the 800bpi 1/2" magtape.
At my current job we started using Suns in 1985,
with the Sun 2/120. We've gone through hundreds of
them since, and expect to be all UltraSPARC this
year; the capabilities of these new machines
are utterly staggering in a historical context.
Like many have reported, Microcontrollers and embedded
stuff is new to me, but I'm enjoying them in a way
that I haven't enjoyed computers in recent memory.
--Bob
--
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> ----------
> From: Maris[SMTP:spamBeGonemaris@spam@spam_OUTTIAC.NET]
> Sent: 27 January 1999 02:33
> To: TakeThisOuTPICLISTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: OT: getting on
>
> I turned 59 this month.
> Back in my day we had to walk 20 miles barefoot in the snow to program
> PICs. We made our own chips from melted sand and programmed them using
> Roman numerals. We were REAL programmers back then, not wussies using
> assemblers and programming languages.
>
> - Maris -
>
Hahaha, Maris! Reminds me of a Monty Python routine. "But tell that
to kids today!" ;-)
- Tom
At 09:33 PM 1/26/99 -0500, Maris wrote:
>I turned 59 this month.
>Back in my day we had to walk 20 miles barefoot in the snow to program
>PICs. We made our own chips from melted sand and programmed them using
>Roman numerals. We were REAL programmers back then, not wussies using
>assemblers and programming languages.
>
>- Maris -
>I was going to keep my mouth shut, but I am 14.2 lustrum old and
>have had the Amateur call W3NMK since 1947.
>
Wow!. Not often someone sends me scrambling for the dictionary.
I knew there was someone older (and wiser!) lurking here. But I
AM an old-timer. When I got into electronics, ANALOG computers
were dominant. In addition to the sly drool, I mean. They used
vacuum tubes. I still have some of the old Philbrick Computing
plug-in modules.
Back in MY day, we didn't have no fancy high numbers. We only had
"nothing," "one," "twain," or "multitudes." Or you could hold up
digits to show how many. Maximum twenty for women, twenty-one for
men.
> Back in my day we had to walk 20 miles barefoot in the snow
Me, I had a modern convience, a horse to ride to school (for real).
Early computers were fun the first compiler I wrote was for the IBM1620
an BCD computer with 20000 digits of memory it was slow but you
could add two 4000 digit numbers together with one instruction.
I believe that you could emulate the IBM-1620 with one of the 12bit core
PIC's and 16K of I2C memory, much faster too. The IBM-1620
cost about $65/hour to run at a time engineers earned $4000/year
my my, and nobody has mentioned the good ol TRS-80 Model I. In fact, still
have the one I played with that my dad brought home one day. Oh...seems
that he was having some problems with the TRS-DOS and the BASIC on it, so he
found the place that wrote some of the software. Small company in
Washington. Talked to this guy named Bill....
Final config of the machine was four 5-1/4 floppys, expansion interface, a
REAL centronics printer, modem and a FORTRAN compiler.
Tom Handley wrote:
>
> Hahaha, Maris! Reminds me of a Monty Python routine. "But tell that
> to kids today!" ;-)
>
How about "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"? Next month my age will
equate to the 'meaning of life' divulged in the final episode.
If I try and write my age in hex I'll probably get an error from the list
server -- I can't remember whether the '$' goes before or after the number...
(yeh, my first programming after TRS-80 BASIC was 6502 assembler on Apple ][
)
That places me twice as young as some of you, and half as young as others.
Nice and comfy in the middle. You're all right, though, it is amazing to
consider the changes in even 15 years... Once upon a time people were lucky
to see _anything_ much change in their _lifetime_. Perhaps a country or two
would get taken over. Someone might build a nicer buggy for their horse. Now
people are amazed that I started life with black&white TV, and people not much
older without it.
I was rather amused when I found the design for a 'pong' TV game on the web
using a PIC, a transistor and a couple of passive components.. We thought
that was such exciting technology then..
Hi All,
I am going to be 40 next weekend. It feels pretty bad.
PeterS
Peter Schultz
<spamBeGoneschupetEraseMEdvp.com>
DVP Inc.
3430 Ocean View Blvd. Unit A
Glendale, CA
(818) 541-9020
Fax: (818) 541-9423
Back in my day we had to walk 20 miles barefoot in the snow to program
PICs. We made our own chips from melted sand and programmed them using
Roman numerals. We were REAL programmers back then, not wussies using
assemblers and programming languages.
I turn 28 in April, my first computer was a Microbee with 16k of ram and a
Z80, I still use it for all my applications that need speed, if speed
isn't an issue I just turn on my Pent Pro and do it the slow way.
Stu.
P.S. You think you had it hard, I used to live in a rolled up news paper
in a septic tank.
Maris wrote:
> I turned 59 this month.
> Back in my day we had to walk 20 miles barefoot in the snow to program
> PICs. We made our own chips from melted sand and programmed them using
> Roman numerals. We were REAL programmers back then, not wussies using
> assemblers and programming languages.
>
> - Maris -
----------
> From: Maris <marisspamBeGoneTIAC.NET>
> To: RemoveMEPICLIST@spam@spamBeGoneMITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: OT: getting on
> Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 9:33 PM
>
> I turned 59 this month.
> Back in my day we had to walk 20 miles barefoot in the snow to program
> PICs. We made our own chips from melted sand and programmed them using
> Roman numerals. We were REAL programmers back then, not wussies using
> assemblers and programming languages.
>
> - Maris -
At 03.54 26/01/1999 -0800, you wrote:
>>My "average age" is 24... but I'm 48.
>>Ehm.. it's a joke :-)
>>
>>Roberto
>
> Roberto, LOL!!! Actually my age varies. Last summer I thought I was
>18 and my broken ankle kept me down for two months. Other times, I
>could swear I was 90 (argghhh...) ;-)
>
> - Tom
My age INCF regularly every year... but I think not for the eternity.
Sooner or later the carry will be set :-)
Seriously.
I'm from Turin, North West of Italy
My studies was in industrial electronic but my passion was programming.
My first informatic love was a C64 and his 6510, many years ago.
The first time I play it from 09:00 PM to 05:00 AM !!!
My face in the morning was:
|||||
O = O
&
~~~
W
My first work was a GWBASIC programm for automatic test equipment.
At present I'm working always in automotive ATE project or similar but my
experiences are only in software/firmware, my brother is the hardware-man:
- Quick Basic 4.5 on PC/MSDOS system based with I/O cards (10 year)
- Visual Basic (only 1 project)
- DB3
- DYNAMIC C on ZWORLD microcontroller (2 year) (any list or pointer?)
- programmable ohmmeter with data files, PC interface, printer interface
- a math inteface for a PIC based data acquisition card and a PLC
- programmable multi-timer
- assembly on PIC micro (3 year):
- IEE488 interface for 2 channel power supply (HP emulation)
- RS232 interface for 5 banks x 8 cards x 2 channels power supply
- programmable ramp generator
- driver for multiple coil test
- data acquisition card
- serial I/O expander (with keypad/display interface) for a ZWORLD
microcontroller
I'm not an expert and I like the piclist because I learn many things
Thanks all.
Roberto
/*
sorry for my bad english
*/
> At 03.54 26/01/1999 -0800, you wrote:
> >>My "average age" is 24... but I'm 48.
> >>Ehm.. it's a joke :-)
> >>
> >>Roberto
> >
> > Roberto, LOL!!! Actually my age varies. Last summer I thought I was
> >18 and my broken ankle kept me down for two months. Other times, I
> >could swear I was 90 (argghhh...) ;-)
> >
> > - Tom
>
> My age INCF regularly every year... but I think not for the eternity.
> Sooner or later the carry will be set :-)
>
PIC Programmers never die, their carry flag just gets set!
May you'll just roll over to 0x00 and start again...
Matt, you got me there. It's been awhile since I've seen it. I
remember Eric Idle popping out of the refrigerator singing about the
universe which would make you quite old and Michael Palin summing it
up in the end which would make you quite young ;-)
>Tom Handley wrote:
>>
>> Hahaha, Maris! Reminds me of a Monty Python routine. "But tell that
>> to kids today!" ;-)
>>
>How about "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"? Next month my age will
>equate to the 'meaning of life' divulged in the final episode.
>
>--Matt
>
>
Next year I'll be -60 ... now back to fixing my Y2K problem...
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>
> But to what base?
> Many people don't realise that this was meant to be to base thirteen
> (decimal)
>
> ie the question was
>
> What do you get when you multiply 6 times 9
>
> The answer was, of course -
>
> 42
>
And to Russell goes the prestigious "Arthur Dent" award! :-)
"You were lucky.... we lived in't cardboard box at bottom of lake"
Another vet. whose first exposure to computers was the 2nd hand all-valve
basement monster (DEC? maybe) donated by an oil refinery to our local
university. (circa 1970).
Some privileged postgrads had been allowed to cut their teeth programming
it..... to shoot noughts and crosses.
Inputs via toggle switches. Outputs, relays and filament lamps.
All nicely mounted in a varnished wooden box.
best regards, John (0x02C)
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o50 aka 0x28 myself. (Can anyone tell I've used CDC machines a bit?
<G>) I want a vacation, just one, before the big 0x40, that's my big
aspiration for myself...
> > I'd make a wild uninformed guess that the average age is in the
> > thirties or forties somewhere, but there is an enormous range.
> >
> > I turned (2^6)-1 last Christmas day and I'm certainly not
> > the oldest one.
> >
> > The Other Reggie
> I was going to keep my mouth shut, but I am 14.2 lustrum old and
> have had the Amateur call W3NMK since 1947.
Harrison Cooper wrote:
>
> my my, and nobody has mentioned the good ol TRS-80 Model I. In fact, still
> have the one I played with that my dad brought home one day. Oh...seems
> that he was having some problems with the TRS-DOS and the BASIC on it, so he
> found the place that wrote some of the software. Small company in
> Washington. Talked to this guy named Bill....
>
> Final config of the machine was four 5-1/4 floppys, expansion interface, a
> REAL centronics printer, modem and a FORTRAN compiler.
... And, as a free bonus, it would sometimes over-write one of those
4 floppys, if you had a power glitch (Model I level III that a Search
and Rescue group I was in, was kept on a local air force base, to do the
computer work for their Search section; they had horrible awful
problems as they wouldn't budget a UPS for the machine. Seems the
industrial motors (engine start carts, maybe?) were causing problems -
Ewww. I'd moved out of state at the time, fortunately <G>)
I'd forgotten that, fortunately, until I read this <G>
I've got one I built from a kit when I was 17. Been thinking lately that I
need to interface it to a PIC. Anyone know where I can find assembler code
examples (Z80 of course) for accessing the bus lines on the external
connector of the ZX81?
I've got one I built from a kit when I was 17. Been thinking lately that I
need to interface it to a PIC. Anyone know where I can find assembler code
examples (Z80 of course) for accessing the bus lines on the external
connector of the ZX81?
There seems to be something of a cult following for the ZX80/81. I forget
exactly what I was searching for, but I once found complete plans for
building a ZX80 (from scratch, using ttl.) I think they had the OS/basic
code there too, as well as other information.
I built a ZX81 kit and gave it to my mom for Christmass one year, although
I don't think that particular experiment turned out so well. (Mom now surfs
the web, though...)
That is a good question!
Not quite being around when the ancient Romans used the term
lustrum as a time measurement, I can't come up with a definitive
answer. A synodic year is approximately 354 days, a sidereal year
is approximately 324 days, and the presently used solar year is
approximately 365 days. Take your pick.
I'll bet I got at least a few people to blow the dust off their
dictionaries.
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