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1998\06\20@235713 by David Schmidt

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I think I saw a basic stamp 1 in the new X-files movie.
Check out the timer for the bomb carefully.
FWIW, I hate it when I see overly complicated alarm timers being
used in hollywood bombs.  And why does even the electronic ones
'tick'?

Dave

1998\06\21@003523 by paulb

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David Schmidt wrote:

> FWIW, I hate it when I see overly complicated alarm timers being
> used in hollywood bombs.  And why do even the electronic ones
> 'tick'?

 FWIW, if I *were* going to set a bomb timer, I'd sure like plenty of
feedback about it being armed, and how much time I had to evacuate!
Ergo, display and piezo sounder.

 Of course, if it was under $200 worth of bomb (not too likely in a
military sense) or if I was on a *really* low budget, a 12C508 plus a
VMOS-FET and a single LED would do.

 Cheers,
       Paul B.

1998\06\21@030051 by Virtual

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> I think I saw a basic stamp 1 in the new X-files movie.
> Check out the timer for the bomb carefully.
> FWIW, I hate it when I see overly complicated alarm timers being
> used in hollywood bombs.  And why does even the electronic ones
> 'tick'?
>
> Dave

 Thats the first thing that popped into my mind when I saw it on the
left side of that circuit board.

1998\06\21@130611 by David VanHorn

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>I think I saw a basic stamp 1 in the new X-files movie.
>Check out the timer for the bomb carefully.
>FWIW, I hate it when I see overly complicated alarm timers being
>used in hollywood bombs.  And why does even the electronic ones
>'tick'?
>
>Dave

Dramatic effect.

Most movie bombs are so pathetic.. The good news is that apparently the real
ones are even lamer.

Although it's tempting to continue discussing this, I think i'll pass.

1998\06\21@152842 by Mark Willis

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Virtual wrote:
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> > I think I saw a basic stamp 1 in the new X-files movie.
> > Check out the timer for the bomb carefully.
> > FWIW, I hate it when I see overly complicated alarm timers being
> > used in hollywood bombs.  And why does even the electronic ones
> > 'tick'?
> >
> > Dave
>
>   Thats the first thing that popped into my mind when I saw it on the
> left side of that circuit board.

 For munitions, I always liked R. Heinlein's talking grenade idea (pull
the pin, throw it, it announces "I am a bomb, three, two, one, <wham>".

 For a "time bomb", wouldn't it make sense if it only beeped or clicked
for the first few seconds, after that the LED just stayed lit, so the
person arming it knows it's armed, after that it's moot;  if you see the
LED on, you know to run like your life depends on it, IF you know it's a
bomb that is!?!

 Do any of us WANT to think like terrorists, really, though?!

 Mark Willis, spam_OUTmwillisTakeThisOuTspamnwlink.com

1998\06\21@172637 by Herbert Graf

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       Ya I noticed that chip in the movie too, looks liked they wiped it out
slightly or something. I do wonder why in every movie the bomb has a
fantasic LED or even LCD display, kinda unrealistic, but I guess that would
take some of the drama away, oh well... TTYL

1998\06\22@004838 by tjaart

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> Virtual wrote:
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> > > I think I saw a basic stamp 1 in the new X-files movie.
> > > Check out the timer for the bomb carefully.
> > > FWIW, I hate it when I see overly complicated alarm timers being
> > > used in hollywood bombs.  And why does even the electronic ones
> > > 'tick'?

You mean it is even more bull than the X-files itself? <G>

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1998\06\22@093932 by paulb

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Herbert Graf wrote:

> I do wonder why in every movie the bomb has a fantasic LED or even LCD
> display, kinda unrealistic, but I guess that would take some of the
> drama away, oh well... TTYL

 Yes, If I happened across one such I'd be sorely tempted to whip out
the nail clippers (nearly said pocket knife, but I have found nail
clippers to be the best for this!) and remove the timer/ display for
more "practical" use!

 Cheers,
       Paul B.

1998\06\22@094520 by Andy Kunz

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>   Do any of us WANT to think like terrorists, really, though?!

Why not just think like SWAT or Special Ops guys?

Andy

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1998\06\22@112124 by Martin Green

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    Over-engineering?

    Martin.


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Subject: OT: X-files movie has a Basic Stamp 1 (I think)
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Date:    6/20/98 8:10 PM


I think I saw a basic stamp 1 in the new X-files movie.
Check out the timer for the bomb carefully.
FWIW, I hate it when I see overly complicated alarm timers being
used in hollywood bombs.  And why does even the electronic ones
'tick'?

Dave

1998\06\22@113010 by John A. Craft

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At 08:10 PM 6/20/98 -0700, you wrote:
>I think I saw a basic stamp 1 in the new X-files movie.
>Check out the timer for the bomb carefully.
>FWIW, I hate it when I see overly complicated alarm timers being
>used in hollywood bombs.  And why does even the electronic ones
>'tick'?
>

I think you're right!, I saw the same thing, and watched carefully the
second time and it appears to be one.  They scratched all the writing off
the chips though.

Jc.

1998\06\22@155545 by Mark Willis

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Andy Kunz wrote:
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> >   Do any of us WANT to think like terrorists, really, though?!
>
> Why not just think like SWAT or Special Ops guys?
>
> Andy
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> Andy Kunz - Statistical Research, Inc. - Westfield, New Jersey USA
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 Read too many "Danger: UXB" books in high school, about German WWII
bomb disarmament backup fuse schemes, and have seen too many of the
films on the, ah, pitfalls of bomb disposal.  And I have far too nasty
of a creative mind (though fascinated with 'gadgets', I just prefer
'positive' applications - love doing medical electronics & safety
avionics!)

 I like my hands, I want to keep them usable, I would prefer to let
someone/something else - a Bomb disposal expert, or better yet a Robot!
- handle bombs, when at all possible.

 (And I'm a little bothered by the tendency of all the Special Ops guys
to wear ski masks etc., but let's not get into that.  Dress like a
terrorist, can confuse people's psychology...)

 Let's just not & say we didn't!

 Mark

1998\06\22@161023 by William Chops Westfield

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    >> And why does even the electronic ones 'tick'?

Well, the original engineering proposal was for a simple LED indication
of "armed."  There were some worries about daylight visibility of LEDs,
however, and by the time marketing was satisfied we had implemented the
three-speaker 3x-oversampled digital dolby surround sound implementation
of "ticking" that you see in the final device.

:-)
BillW

1998\06\23@083919 by Andy Kunz

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>  (And I'm a little bothered by the tendency of all the Special Ops guys
>to wear ski masks etc., but let's not get into that.  Dress like a
>terrorist, can confuse people's psychology...)

Ever wonder why New Jersey State Troopers wear Gestapo uniforms?

The guys in black aren't the problem, it's the people giving the orders.

Andy

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