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1998\12\28@172200 by Gabe Cherian

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<DIV><FONT size=2>Greetings:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I just subscribed to this list and I am already
impressed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I need some advice and I suspect that there are quite a few of
you out there who are expert in this field and could give me your opinion on
this subject.&nbsp; Thanks in advance.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I am a semi-retired mechanical engineer and I am trying to
learn about microprocessors.&nbsp; (I know and have worked with PLCs, but I want
something much smaller and more economical).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I received a literature package from Microchip Technology Inc.
They are offering the PICSTART Plus Mechatornics Kit for @219.- plus shipping
and handling.&nbsp; It looks to me that this could be a good way for me to
start.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Do you have any suggestions or comments.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Thank you very much.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Gabe Cherian</FONT></DIV>
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1998\12\28@190719 by Bob Blick

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> I received a literature package from Microchip Technology Inc. They are
offering the PICSTART Plus Mechatornics Kit for @219.- plus shipping and
handling.  It looks to me that this could be a good way for me to start.
> Do you have any suggestions or comments.

Well, it's basically the $199 Picstart+ package with a few 12CXXX devices
and pamphlets thrown in. Last year about this time they had the Picstart+
for $149. Chances are they figured the new name and packaging were clever
new ways to "add value".

It's a good programmer, and comes with a bunch of documentation you'll
need to have around, and all the software you'll ever need(perhaps more,
opinions on MPLAB vary considerably). Hope you are using win3.11 or 95.

-Bob

1998\12\28@232219 by Eric Borcherding

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Gabe, (any other fresh PICLISTer PICers)

Any start you can get is great.   Mine was to download all of the App Notes
from Microchip and put into printed (markable and Tabable Binder loosleaf)
then read... read... - I wanted to - had to learn for job.   Then Get MPASM
4.0 on a download (http://www.miccochip.com) and a PICSTART PLUS
programmer (has worked well for 5V apps).  If you have enough of ASM
and want to try a step up to a compiler I like and use a CCS C compiler of
which the DOS versions for PCM and PCL are only 150$.   They have two
versions on for 12b and 14b cores.   I am quite impressed with the CCS
compiler - not the MPASM I?F to it though.

Good Luck

Eric Borcherding

1998\12\29@033948 by Gabe Cherian

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Eric, Hi:
Thank you for your message.
I appreciate your suggestions.
A few new questions:
What is ASM, PCM and PCL, and CCS C compiler?
Where do I buy this compiler? From Microchip, also?
Are there other sources of kits like the PICSTART PLUS or other starters
kits?
Again, I will appreciate any comments and guidance.
Thanks and regards.
Gabe

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1998\12\29@095647 by lilel

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> Greetings:
> I just subscribed to this list and I am already impressed.
> I need some advice and I suspect that there are quite a few of you
> out there who are expert in this field and could give me your
> opinion on this subject.  Thanks in advance. I am a semi-retired
> mechanical engineer and I am trying to learn about microprocessors.

Here's the upgade path I started on:

Month 1:
Bought a David Tait programmer kit for $20 or $30 US, and some
PIC16C84's, a simple enough chip.

Month 2:
Subscribed to the PIClist.

Month 3:
Convinced the Microchip rep to send me a hardcopy embedded control
handbook and databooks (I hate CDroms).  Get MPLAB for free and start
programming.

Year 1:
Began with simple projects like LED blinkies and sqwak boxes until I
could make it do something useful.

Got a older PICStart  programmer for $100 that wouldn't program half
the new parts

Year 2:
Got an ICEPIC emulator for $800 or $1000

Year 3:
Got a newer programmer (the one you saw for $220) for about $150 that
is upgradeable.

Finally, four years later, I'm just dabbling in C.  My first patent
was designed around a PIC microcontroller.

BTW my boss paid for all the expensive stuff.
-- Lawrence Lile

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