Searching \ for 'NASA in a rut ?' in subject line. ()
Make payments with PayPal - it's fast, free and secure! Help us get a faster server
FAQ page: www.piclist.com/techref/index.htm?key=nasa+rut
Search entire site for: 'NASA in a rut ?'.

Truncated match.
PICList Thread
'NASA in a rut ?'
1999\11\02@230825 by Jinx

face picon face
part 0 16 bytes
</x-html>

1999\11\03@165859 by Pedro Drummond

flavicon
face
Excellent. Loved this one. :-)




----- Original Message -----
From: Jinx
To: spam_OUTPICLISTTakeThisOuTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 2:05 AM
Subject: NASA in a rut ?


A tenuous (?) connection between several recent postings about
railways, standards, and space shots. And, to keep it relevant,
even the earliest railway engineers were known to have used PICs
........ and shovels

------------

The US standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is
4 feet 8.5 inches. That's an odd number. Why is that gauge used?
Because that's the way they built them in England, and the US
railroads were built by English expatriates.

Why did the English build them like that ? Because the first rail
lines were built by the same people who built the pre-railroad
tramways, and that's the gauge they used. Why did 'they' use
that gauge then ? Because the  people who built the tramway
used the same jigs and tools that they used for building wagons,
which used that wheel spacing.

Why did the wagons have that particular odd wheel spacing ? Well,
if they tried to use any other spacing the wagon wheels would
break on some of the old, long distance roads in England, because
that was the spacing of the wheel ruts. So who built those old
rutted roads ? The first long distance roads in Europe (and
England) were built by Imperial Rome for their legions. The roads
have been used ever since. And the ruts ? The initial ruts, which
everyone else had to match for fear of destroying their wagon
wheels and wagons, were first made by Roman war chariots. Since
the chariots were made for or by Imperial Rome they were all
alike in the matter of wheel spacing.

Thus, we have the answer to the original question: The United
States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet 8.5 inches derives
from the original specification for an Imperial Roman war chariot.

When we see a Space Shuttle sitting on its launch pad, there are
two big booster rockets attached to the sides of the main fuel tank.
These are solid rocket boosters, or SRBs. The SRBs are made by
Thiokol at their factory in Utah. The engineers who designed the SRBs
might have preferred to make them a bit fatter, but the SRBs had
to be shipped by train from the factory to the launch site. The
railroad line from the factory had to run through a tunnel in the
mountains. The SRBs had to fit through that tunnel. The tunnel is
slightly wider than the railroad track. So, the major design feature
of what is arguably the world's most advanced transportation system
was essentially determined by whoever built the Roman legions'
chariots.

Specifications and bureaucracies live forever. So the next time
you are handed a specification and wonder what horse's ass came
up with it, you may be exactly right -- because the Imperial Roman
war chariots were made just wide enough to accommodate the back
ends of two war horses.

1999\11\03@232422 by bowman

flavicon
face
Pedro Drummond wrote:
>
> Specifications and bureaucracies live forever. So the next time
> you are handed a specification and wonder what horse's ass came
> up with it, you may be exactly right -- because the Imperial Roman
> war chariots were made just wide enough to accommodate the back
> ends of two war horses.


iirc, the Europeans couldn't even get that right. Or maybe they did have
it right. Hard for an enemy to invade when all his rolling stock has to
be parked at the border.

--
Bear Technology  Making Montana safe for Grizzlies

http://people.montana.com/~bowman/

1999\11\03@233932 by Jinx

face picon face
Subject: Re: NASA in a rut ?

> Pedro Drummond wrote:
> >
> >because the Imperial Roman  war chariots were made just
> >wide enough to accommodate the back  ends of two war horses.
>
> iirc, the Europeans couldn't even get that right. Or maybe they did have
> it right. Hard for an enemy to invade when all his rolling stock has to
> be parked at the border.
>
> bowman

And it's my understanding that UK rolling stock can't even get out of
the French end of the Channel Tunnel to use track that is standard
across the whole of the rest of Europe.

Jinx

1999\11\04@001120 by bowman

flavicon
face
Jinx wrote:
>
> And it's my understanding that UK rolling stock can't even get out of
> the French end of the Channel Tunnel to use track that is standard
> across the whole of the rest of Europe.

That is designed that way. Keeps the wily Brits from shipping
anglophonic mad cows to La Belle France.

Thought some of the Eastern countries had a different gauge, too. I seem
to recall there was some place on the Orient Express where the
passengers had to switch trains.

--
Bear Technology  Making Montana safe for Grizzlies

http://people.montana.com/~bowman/

More... (looser matching)
- Last day of these posts
- In 1999 , 2000 only
- Today
- New search...