Post by thread:Myke's book (was PicMicro Compatibles)

>From: John Haggins <spam_OUTjawgTakeThisOuTEARTHLINK.NET> >Subject: Re: PicMicro Compatibles >>Myke, >> >>With due respect to you as a valuable piclist contributor, I think your >>position regarding the purpose of the Microchip patents is nonsense. >True... I think Myke should be careful about criticizing other peoples >products especially when this list is so silently kind to him regarding the >chronic "quality" of his book... nuff said. I agree about its "quality"... or lack of. If I could return the book and get a full refund I'd do so in a New York minute.

WOW.....His book is one of the most recommended books for intermediate level PIC'lers. Why there is not webpage dealing with programming books without his title listed. Moreover, someone ranks it 1st. compared to some other similar books. Of course I ordered my copy and is here in line behind Easy Pic'n. " LORD you are my rock....my shield " Eduardo R. ---------------- At 11:51 AM 10/29/98 -0800, you wrote: {Quote hidden}>>From: John Haggins <.....jawgKILLspam@spam@EARTHLINK.NET> >>Subject: Re: PicMicro Compatibles > >>>Myke, > >>True... I think Myke should be careful about criticizing other peoples >>products especially when this list is so silently kind to him regarding the >>chronic "quality" of his book... nuff said. > >I agree about its "quality"... or lack of. If I could return the book and >get a full refund I'd do so in a New York minute. > > " Happy of those who fears The Lord " Humbleness is the clue. ________ ________ ________ / / / / / /_____ /_______/ /_______/ / / \ / \ /________ / \ / \ ICQ# 10909825 \_ / \___________ eriveraKILLspamumemphis.campus.mci.net

Considering the limited range of PIC books available, I consider Myke's the best! Calvin -----Original Message----- From: Eduardo R. <.....eriveraKILLspam.....UMEMPHIS.CAMPUS.MCI.NET> To: EraseMEPICLISTspam_OUTTakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU <PICLISTspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU> Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 1:35 PM Subject: Re: Myke's book (was PicMicro Compatibles) {Quote hidden}> WOW.....His book is one of the most recommended books for intermediate >level PIC'lers. > Why there is not webpage dealing with programming books without his title >listed. > Moreover, someone ranks it 1st. compared to some other similar books. > > Of course I ordered my copy and is here in line behind Easy Pic'n. > > > > " LORD you are my rock....my shield " > > Eduardo R. >---------------- >At 11:51 AM 10/29/98 -0800, you wrote: >>>From: John Haggins <@spam@jawgKILLspamEARTHLINK.NET> >>>Subject: Re: PicMicro Compatibles >> >>>>Myke, > >> >>>True... I think Myke should be careful about criticizing other peoples >>>products especially when this list is so silently kind to him regarding the {Quote hidden}>>>chronic "quality" of his book... nuff said. >> >>I agree about its "quality"... or lack of. If I could return the book and >>get a full refund I'd do so in a New York minute. >> >> > " Happy of those who fears The Lord " > Humbleness is the clue. > ________ ________ ________ > / / / / / > /_____ /_______/ /_______/ > / / \ / \ > /________ / \ / \ > ICQ# 10909825 \_ / \___________ > KILLspameriveraKILLspamumemphis.campus.mci.net

In a message dated 98-10-29 15:38:23 EST, you write: << I agree about its "quality"... or lack of. If I could return the book and >get a full refund I'd do so in a New York minute. >> Did you copy Myke's book so that you would like, now, to return it for a full return of your money? I bought it and I think it is great. Hats off to you Myke for a great book that, obviously, took a great deal of time and effort to creat. I and many others really appreciate your effort, Myke. Max Toole, Electronic Innovations, Inc. http://www.elecin.com

Well, it is easy to comment but very difficult to do it better! It is hard to please an experienced PIC guy. Mike's book is meant for beginners and/or as a handy reference. I trust it has done it beautifully. I am sure it will make a good college text book, too. I read it all. Put it that way, can anyone in the list here suggest another quality book than Mike's???????? May be Robert can answer this before he return the book for a refund. Cheers, Steve Max Toole wrote: {Quote hidden}> > In a message dated 98-10-29 15:38:23 EST, you write: > > << I agree about its "quality"... or lack of. If I could return the book and > >get a full refund I'd do so in a New York minute. >> > Did you copy Myke's book so that you would like, now, to return it for a full > return of your money? I bought it and I think it is great. > > Hats off to you Myke for a great book that, obviously, took a great deal of > time and effort to creat. I and many others really appreciate your effort, > Myke. > > Max Toole, > Electronic Innovations, Inc. > http://www.elecin.com

>Well, it is easy to comment but very difficult to do it better! Amen. Speaking as a former Tech Editor/Writer, the work that goes into something like this is unbelievable. >It is hard to please an experienced PIC guy. Mike's book is meant for >beginners and/or as a handy reference. I trust it has done it >beautifully. I am sure it will make a good college text book, too. I >read it all. As a rank beginner w/ PICs, but with some microprocessor experience, the book was enormously helpful to me, and I'm still going back and referring to it. All in all, it was a good investment for me, and I'd heartily recommend it to anyone who's getting started with PICs BUT already knows a little something about microprocessors and electronics, with the warning to watch out for typos. The book is packed with good and useful info, it simply needs a thorough edit by a technical editor who knows what she's doing. It's a pity that TAB books doesn't provide that. Find a different publisher, Myke! :-) For a REAL beginner who has no experience at all with microprocessors, some of the small editing goofs could be really confusing, and that would be a shame. For a pure beginner I think I'd recommend Easy PIC'n. Dave Johnson

I just want to say me too (praising the book) and me three for the online errata. Actually could we help, if people find a mistake, a quick note to Myke with the page and line number should suffice ? Come on Myke, don't be shy, we know your listening. Reginald Neale wrote: > > >warning to watch out for typos. The book is packed with good and useful > >info, it simply needs a thorough edit by a technical editor who knows > >what she's doing. It's a pity that TAB books doesn't provide that. > > Is there an errata sheet somewhere online? > > Reg Neale -- Peter Cousens email: RemoveMEcousensTakeThisOuTher.forthnet.gr phone: + 3081 380534 snailmail: Folia, Agia Fotini, Karteros, Heraklion Crete, Greece. Is it true that they have, on the new version of windows managed to increase the MTBF from 95 to 98 minutes ? (That's why they called it 95)

> Dave Johnson wrote: > > > > >Well, it is easy to comment but very difficult to do it better! > > Amen. Speaking as a former Tech Editor/Writer, the work that goes into > > something like this is unbelievable. > > > > >It is hard to please an experienced PIC guy. Mike's book is meant for > > >beginners and/or as a handy reference. I trust it has done it > > >beautifully. I am sure it will make a good college text book, too. I > > >read it all. > > As a rank beginner w/ PICs, but with some microprocessor experience, the > > book was enormously helpful to me, and I'm still going back and referring > > to it. All in all, it was a good investment for me, and I'd heartily > > recommend it to anyone who's getting started with PICs BUT already knows > > a little something about microprocessors and electronics, with the > > warning to watch out for typos. The book is packed with good and useful > > info, it simply needs a thorough edit by a technical editor who knows > > what she's doing. It's a pity that TAB books doesn't provide that. > > > > Find a different publisher, Myke! :-) > > > > For a REAL beginner who has no experience at all with microprocessors, > > some of the small editing goofs could be really confusing, and that would > > be a shame. For a pure beginner I think I'd recommend Easy PIC'n. > > > I think the Easy PIC'n book is way over priced, very limited technical information(reading the 16F84 tech info downloaded from Mchip is more helpful and in better detail). Nevertheless, the examples should be welcome by beginners and ONLY beginners. In comparision, Mike's book worth the money spent. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Robert and other book critics: I suggest you give specific examples of why the "quality" of Myke's book ("Programming and Customizing the PIC Microcontroller") is lacking (to help us readers and Myke to improve his next book). As a practicing analog/digital design engineer I found a it good reference book with real world example hardware / software examples. It doesn't have the errors that I found in the Microchip application notes. Just try to get their I2C EEPROM stuff to work right! I particularly found Myke's book sections on Serial LCD interface, PIC interrupts, RS232 Communications, and Experiments to speed up first time designs on the PICs. I worked with Intel and Moto ICs before. The only negative comment I have about the book is that it light on the analog examples. But then I am an analog / digital designer not a digital / analog designer. If you have ever produced a project like his book I sure you would better appreciate the effort that he made. No single book can be "the all" to any given subject - that's why there are hundreds books on many technical subjects. The Microchip PIC is not mainstream even in the microcontroller world, so any good book like Myke's is valuable to me. Sorry for the bandwidth but I don't believe Myke deserves the cryptic negative reviews. And yes I have bought and read all the other PIC books. Sincerely, Wayne Foletta SiliconSoft, Inc. http://www.siliconsoft.com Robert Powell wrote: {Quote hidden}> >From: John Haggins <spamBeGonejawgspamBeGoneEARTHLINK.NET> > >Subject: Re: PicMicro Compatibles > > >>Myke, > >> > >>With due respect to you as a valuable piclist contributor, I think your > >>position regarding the purpose of the Microchip patents is nonsense. > > >True... I think Myke should be careful about criticizing other peoples > >products especially when this list is so silently kind to him regarding the > >chronic "quality" of his book... nuff said. > > I agree about its "quality"... or lack of. If I could return the book and > get a full refund I'd do so in a New York minute.

Dave Johnson wrote: > > >Well, it is easy to comment but very difficult to do it better! > Amen. Speaking as a former Tech Editor/Writer, the work that goes into > something like this is unbelievable. > > >It is hard to please an experienced PIC guy. Mike's book is meant for > >beginners and/or as a handy reference. I trust it has done it > >beautifully. I am sure it will make a good college text book, too. I > >read it all. > As a rank beginner w/ PICs, but with some microprocessor experience, the > book was enormously helpful to me, and I'm still going back and referring > to it. All in all, it was a good investment for me, and I'd heartily > recommend it to anyone who's getting started with PICs BUT already knows > a little something about microprocessors and electronics, with the > warning to watch out for typos. The book is packed with good and useful > info, it simply needs a thorough edit by a technical editor who knows > what she's doing. It's a pity that TAB books doesn't provide that. > Isn't TAB known for that. Many years ago they published a book on 6809 that had errors in several hundreds region ( i don't remember but it was a lot! ) > Find a different publisher, Myke! :-) > I don't by TAB books but i have Myke's since i bouht a package from wirth. I have not read it though. Maybe there is an erata available? > For a REAL beginner who has no experience at all with microprocessors, > some of the small editing goofs could be really confusing, and that would > be a shame. For a pure beginner I think I'd recommend Easy PIC'n. > > Dave Johnson regards /Sten -- Sten Dahlgren ! I'd rather have 39 hp under my right arm than Enea Data AB ! one horse under my bottom ! Box 232 ! 183 23 TŠby ! Sweden ! +46 8 6385038 ! TakeThisOuTstdaEraseMEspam_OUTenea.se !