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'Microchip Web Page annoyance! (Why)'
1998\10\26@021341 by jcline

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This is due to their extreme use of "very large" tables, and
tables-within-tables.

For some reason browsers do not like tables this large (why it would
take a glorified document display program several dozen seconds
to format a document on a 100+ Mhz machine is beyond me; object
oriented coding perhaps? snicker).

You could always use Lynx.  It doesn't suffer from these kinds of
problems, and is a much faster browser as well (text only of
course).  Or Opera, which only takes 1.5 meg of memory (whereas
Netscape allocates about 15 megs, booting fresh).


Let's all complain to Microchip, we can tell them to get a site
like National's-- no silly marketting stuff on the front page and
a blantant link for engineers.

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Jonathan
.....jclineKILLspamspam@spam@ee.calpoly.edu

1998\10\26@044526 by Mark Willis

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"A blatant link for engineers."  I *Like* it! <G>  I agree that
National's site's far nicer to visit.  Thanks for the info, Jonathan
(Next year I might get time to learn HTML, but more likely I'll be busy
PIC-ifying an entire factory.  Should pay really well at least!  So much
to learn, and my brain's already full, though <G>)

 Been looking at Opera, haven't stuck it on a machine yet but their
having a 128-bit SSL browser that'll run on a 386 with 8 Mb RAM gives me
the idea to use that on the engineering 486 laptops here instead of
Netscape 2.02, which has, ah, "limitations", that's the word.  (Almost
finished upgrading those laptops to 486DX2/66 & larger HDD, still need
to glue on the heatsinks & add RAM to one!)

 Best answer may be to get my embedded computers finished off, anyways
(and use the 586-100 to view the .pdf files while programming on the 486
& editing source code on the 386 <G>)

 Mark

Jonathan wrote:
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1998\10\26@181429 by James Cameron

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Mark Willis wrote:
> (Next year I might get time to learn HTML, but more likely I'll be busy
> PIC-ifying an entire factory.  Should pay really well at least!  So
> much to learn, and my brain's already full, though <G>)

Seems like you've got the basics of HTML already, Mark, with that grin
tag. <p>

HTML is really easy to write, because;

<ul>
<li>    you can do it with a plain text editor,

<li>    you can immediately test it offline by opening up the file with a
       web browser (or two),

<li>    the tags actually mean something, like UL for un-numbered list,
       and LI for list item, P for paragraph, and HR for horizontal
       line,

<li>    you can still read the text after you have written it,

<li>    you can add as much spacing as you like and it gets ignored,

<li>    you can have a look at how other people do it and simply
       <i>immitate</i>.
</ul>

There's heaps more on writing HTML for newbies.  Mostly on the web.
<hr>

--
James Cameron                                    (EraseMEcameronspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTstl.dec.com)
Digital Equipment Corporation (Australia) Pty. Ltd. A.C.N. 000 446 800

1998\10\27@064222 by Mark Willis

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James Cameron wrote:
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 There's a difference between being able to look up stuff quickly in a
dictionary, & holding it in L2 cache, let's say, James <G>

 I figure I can fake it, but I prefer to finesse things <G>

 Mark, @spam@mwillisKILLspamspamnwlink.com, another PIC-y perfectionist micro-optimizer
<G>

1998\10\27@123058 by Martin McCormick

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Jonathan writes:
>You could always use Lynx.  It doesn't suffer from these kinds of
>problems, and is a much faster browser as well (text only of
>course).

       Yes and no.  I am the one who was whining several weeks ago
about trying to download the data sheet PDF's from the Microchip web
site and just plain getting stuck in a screen that wouldn't let me go
any further.

       Lynx usually works perfectly on sites that are rather generic
and chokes on those that are too closely intertwined with
Micro$oftisms or Netscapisms.  When it comes to information transfer,
generic may not be as flashy, but most of us are hitting the site to
get information and not to be entertained with dubious eye candy.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK
OSU Center for Computing and Information Services Data Communications Group

1998\10\27@125532 by Michael Hagberg

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try changing you link to this
http://www.microchip.com/0/index.htm

it's the text version of the site and you should have no problems

michael

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