Post by thread:Mathias or Icepic ??

I would like to receive feedback from you guys with experience on this subject. I am seriously considering to buy an emulator, and it looks from what I have heard here that Mathias and Icepic are well acepted. Is the first time I am going to deal with them an I have the feeling that some are really complex to get familiar with. Please, help me to make my final decision. I will be focused on PIC 12CXXX and 16F84, but price, friendliness and support are pluses . Thank you Eduardo R

At 20:54 03/26/99 -0600, Eduardo R. wrote: > I would like to receive feedback from you guys with experience on this >subject. I am seriously considering to buy an emulator, and it looks from >what I have heard here that Mathias and Icepic are well acepted. > Is the first time I am going to deal with them an I have the feeling that >some are really complex to get familiar with. i don't think either of them is what one might call a "complex" emulator; at least the mathias is a rather basic emulator. you can check out the functionality of the mathias with their software, running in a "virtual mathias" mode, which basically simulates the emulator. most of the features work as claimed, some minor ones don't work as expected/claimed, the primary functionality (running the program as if it were a real chip) seems to be working ok, and support seems to be good (as far as i can tell from my short experience). what does not work as expected/claimed: basically source code integration with the hitech c compiler, which seems to have some serious incompatibilities in the interpretation of the cod file format. (they say it's better since the last hitech update, but i haven't checked on that yet. and both said before that their cod file interpretation was ok...) the trace buffer is very basic in its function -- it really just traces everything, no selection criteria, for example. and it loads everything down to the host at every break, which can take annoyingly long tens of seconds if you have a large trace depth set up. they could download only the chunks i'm looking at, for example. ge

> I would like to receive feedback from you guys with experience on this >subject. I am seriously considering to buy an emulator, and it looks from >what I have heard here that Mathias and Icepic are well acepted. > Is the first time I am going to deal with them an I have the feeling that >some are really complex to get familiar with. > Please, help me to make my final decision. I will be focused on PIC 12CXXX >and 16F84, but price, friendliness and support are pluses . I've used both. My vote: MATHIAS by a long shot. ANdy \-----------------/ \ /---\ / \ | | / Andy Kunz \ /---\ / Montana Design /---------+ +---------\ http://www.montanadesign.com | / |----|___|----| \ | \/___| * |___\/ Go fast, turn right, and keep the wet side down!

Eduardo R. wrote: > > I would like to receive feedback from you guys with experience on this > subject. I am seriously considering to buy an emulator, and it looks from > what I have heard here that Mathias and Icepic are well acepted. > Is the first time I am going to deal with them an I have the feeling that > some are really complex to get familiar with. > Please, help me to make my final decision. I will be focused on PIC 12CXXX > and 16F84, but price, friendliness and support are pluses . Hi Eduardo. Mathias is much better for many reasons. I highly recommend you to buy it. WBR Dmitry.

Dmitry Kiryashov wrote: > > Eduardo R. wrote: > > > > I would like to receive feedback from you guys with experience on this > > subject. I am seriously considering to buy an emulator, and it looks from > > what I have heard here that Mathias and Icepic are well acepted. > > Is the first time I am going to deal with them an I have the feeling that > > some are really complex to get familiar with. > > Please, help me to make my final decision. I will be focused on PIC 12CXXX > > and 16F84, but price, friendliness and support are pluses . > > Hi Eduardo. > > Mathias is much better for many reasons. I highly recommend you to buy > it. > > WBR Dmitry. I used to plug the PICMaster, but with Microchip's recent decision to force all PICMaster users to buy new emulators, I'd rather stick a certain sensitive body part into a bee hive than recommend the PICMaster, or any other tool Mchip makes for that matter. I've also got an old ICEPIC, which works fine. The support from RF solutions was pretty good. -- Friendly Regards /"\ \ / Tjaart van der Walt X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN spam_OUTtjaartTakeThisOuTwasp.co.za / \ AGAINST HTML MAIL |--------------------------------------------------| | WASP International | |R&D Engineer : GSM peripheral services development| |--------------------------------------------------| | Mobile : .....tjaartKILLspam@spam@sms.wasp.co.za (160 text chars) | | http://www.wasp.co.za/~tjaart/index.html | |Voice: +27-(0)11-622-8686 Fax: +27-(0)11-622-8973| | WGS-84 : 26¡10.52'S 28¡06.19'E | |--------------------------------------------------|