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1998\06\15@212455 by Bo Berglund

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Today I received this message from Wolfgang Kynast (spam_OUTwkysagTakeThisOuTspamgmx.de):

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>Hi Bo,
>once again: PLEASE SWITCH THIS MS-BULLSHIT OFF!!!!!!!
>You can do that by diabling 'Microsoft Exchange Rich Text Format'
>in the adressbook.
>Thanks,
>Wolfgang

Even though I really don't know what is going on I have now switched off the checkbox he mentions above in my address book. I hope this solves whatever problem you were experiencing with my messages. I am using the Microsoft Exchange ver. 4 mail client and I don't ever recall having any problems with my outgoing mail. Must be some peculiarity with this list server....

Bo

1998\06\16@001531 by Bob Blick

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Hi Bo,

It's not a problem with the listserver, it is a problem with MS Exchange,
MS Access, MS... anyone who reads mail with a standard(non-microsoft) email
program will have various problems with rich text or html mail created with
those programs. When I'm at work, I read mail with PINE on a unix system,
and I don't see anything but a blank page when I try to read those emails,
even if they are sent directly to me and not through the list.

It is to your benefit to make your email text-only and readable by all, and
I thank you for doing it and sharing your experience(so I don't have to be
the one to annoy you).

Cheers,
Bob

At 11:38 PM 6/15/98 +0200, you wrote:
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the checkbox he mentions above in my address book. I hope this solves
whatever problem you were experiencing with my messages. I am using the
Microsoft Exchange ver. 4 mail client and I don't ever recall having any
problems with my outgoing mail. Must be some peculiarity with this list
server....
>
>Bo
>

http://www.bobblick.com/

1998\06\16@073059 by Pasi T Mustalahti

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On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Bo Berglund wrote:

> Today I received this message from Wolfgang Kynast (wkysagspamKILLspamgmx.de):
>
> -- large snip --
>
> >Hi Bo,
> >once again: PLEASE SWITCH THIS MS-BULLSHIT OFF!!!!!!!
> >You can do that by diabling 'Microsoft Exchange Rich Text Format'
> >in the adressbook.
> >Thanks,
> >Wolfgang
>
> Even though I really don't know what is going on I have now switched off the c
heckbox he mentions above in my address book. I hope this solves whatever proble
m you were experiencing with my messages. I am using the Microsoft Exchange ver.
4 mail client and I don't ever recall having any problems with my outgoing mail
. Must be some peculiarity with this list server....
>
> Bo
>
PTM: You don't have troubles while meiling, everyone else does, while
reading your miles, if you use some of these modes, that send something
else than pure ASCII TXT file. Except if they alla do as I do: If I see
that there is an attachment in a emeil, I delete the whole emeil without
reading.
There might go something usefull to Recycle bin, but counting percentages,
I do really doubt.

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1998\06\16@113048 by Martin Green

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    Wolfgang obviously didn't have his regular ten cups of coffee this
    morning, but he is right that MS Exchange and Outlook produce a bunch
    of garbage that pure email readers see as attachments or trash text in
    the message. Unfortunately, only some of it can be turned off from the
    client. To get it all turned off requires the Exchange or Outlook
    server settings to be correctly configured, easy if you are running it
    at home, nearly impossible if you are trying to convince your office
    network admin to do it for you. Only people using 'pure' email
    packages (non LAN) such as Eudora or Agent or Pine, etc. will see this
    trash

    Incidentally, other LAN mail programs do similar stuff. I am forced to
    use cc:Mail at work, which as you may notice, adds an attachment turd
    too.

    The problem with all these messy mail apps is that the user doesn't
    realize he or she is annoying everyone else until someone is polite
    (or annoyed - Wolfgang) enough to let you know what is happening. On
    top of this, in some cases it is impossible to do anything about it
    (cc:Mail) or the instructions are buried somewhere the average user
    could never find (Exchange and Outlook).


    CIAO - Martin.


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Subject: MS bullshit inside piclist emails?
Author:  pic microcontroller discussion list <PICLISTspamspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU> at
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Date:    6/15/98 11:38 PM


Today I received this message from Wolfgang Kynast (@spam@wkysagKILLspamspamgmx.de):

-- large snip --

>Hi Bo,
>once again: PLEASE SWITCH THIS MS-BULLSHIT OFF!!!!!!!
>You can do that by diabling 'Microsoft Exchange Rich Text Format'
>in the adressbook.
>Thanks,
>Wolfgang

Even though I really don't know what is going on I have now switched off the
checkbox he mentions above in my address book. I hope this solves whatever
problem you were experiencing with my messages. I am using the Microsoft
Exchange ver. 4 mail client and I don't ever recall having any problems with my
outgoing mail. Must be some peculiarity with this list server....

Bo

1998\06\17@041254 by Dr. Imre Bartfai

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Hi,

I see this bullshit and it is annoying but - at least for me, using LINUX
Pine - there is a way to read the message:

1. Press V
2. Select the "plain text" entry
3. Press Enter

Of course, it is inconvenient.

If someone sends me HTML - it happened more times - then I must extract
it, then read it with lynx or (ough!) Netscape.

Imre

PS. Linux is THE operating system.

On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Martin Green wrote:

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1998\06\22@035146 by Neil Strong

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In OUTLOOK 97 the problem is that when you hit 'reply', the default is to
send in Rich Text format.

I think the only way to stop this is to double click on the 'pic
microcontroller discussion list' destination ( To... ) field _EVERY_ time
you reply and unset the 'Always send to this recipient in Microsoft
Exchange Rich Text format' checkbox.

Regards,
Neil
spamBeGoneNeil.StrongspamBeGonespamsyntegra.bt.co.uk

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