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2007\09\19@072008 by xxx xxx

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Dear list,

There are alot of GSM SIM card cloning/copier windows based S/W at the net.
But is there any Linux based S/W for the same ?
KMobile tools is there but it is not a SIM card copier/cloner.
Please suggest me one if exists.

More over I am also looking for a GSM SIM card data recovery linux
application which can
recover deleted SMS /Contact from SIM card.
Please show me the way.
thanks

2007\09\19@080621 by Mauricio Giovagnini

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xxx xxx escribió:
> Dear list,
>
> There are alot of GSM SIM card cloning/copier windows based S/W at the net.
> But is there any Linux based S/W for the same ?
> KMobile tools is there but it is not a SIM card copier/cloner.
> Please suggest me one if exists.
>
>  
And what 'legal' activities are you planning to do with such at ool?

> More over I am also looking for a GSM SIM card data recovery linux
> application which can recover deleted SMS /Contact from SIM card.
> Please show me the way.
> thanks
>  


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Mauricio Giovagnini (Maunix)
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Cordoba, Arg.

2007\09\19@082315 by xxx xxx

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On 9/19/07, Mauricio Giovagnini <spam_OUTmaugiovagniniTakeThisOuTspamyahoo.com.ar> wrote:
> xxx xxx escribió:
> > Dear list,
> >
> > There are alot of GSM SIM card cloning/copier windows based S/W at the net.
> > But is there any Linux based S/W for the same ?
> > KMobile tools is there but it is not a SIM card copier/cloner.
> > Please suggest me one if exists.
> >
> >
> And what 'legal' activities are you planning to do with such at ool?
>
No such planned activity. I am a linux user and love working/knowing the
forensic utilities based on linux. recently I have accidentally blockem my
SIM PIN2 code. after searching a lot I have come to know about SIM cloner which
can also allow to modify the PIN2 apart from cloning. Thus I have very much
interested in SIM cloning but in Linux as I am a Linux user.
I love to write articles on Linux and recently I have completed
"Digital Steganograohy"
You can see all my articles at lxer.com as well as my own site
http://jbakshi.50webs.com

I am very much interested in  linux based SIM copier. As I have
mentioned before that
there are a lot S/W at net but based on Windows. Where I am looking
for linux based tool.
could you show me the way ?

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2007\09\19@084028 by Russell McMahon

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> And what 'legal' activities are you planning to do with such at
> tool?

I'd not be surprised if Mr (presumably) xxx xxx (who a casual net
search reveals, as of November 9th last year had a Linux laptop and is
a serious PIC beginner) is wanting this for tasks non-nefarious BUT,
as he says, the capability is widely available on the dark side
platform. And, all the tasks he lists are potentially entirely
legitimate ones - typically what one may wish to have in a support
role for cellular phones.

Use of a slightly more likely name would probably assist his
credibility :-)



       Russell

2007\09\19@131855 by Morgan Allen

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I have not used it in a while, but gnokii may do what you need. I have only
used it to backup sims in the past.

On 9/19/07, Russell McMahon <.....apptechKILLspamspam@spam@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
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2007\09\20@002045 by xxx xxx

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Hi Russell,

you can get my full name and all my present activities at
http://jbakshi.50webs.com

with regards,
Joydeep Bakshi

On 9/19/07, Russell McMahon <apptechspamKILLspamparadise.net.nz> wrote:
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2007\09\20@003202 by xxx xxx

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On 9/19/07, Morgan Allen <.....morganrallenKILLspamspam.....gmail.com> wrote:
> I have not used it in a while, but gnokii may do what you need. I have only
> used it to backup sims in the past.

Hi Morgan,
thanks for your response. I am quite familiar with gnokii and it is
*NOT* the SIM cloner/scanner at all. It is just like KMobile tool
available in KDE and gnokii is actually designed fot Nokia mobile.  I
wounder when there are *A LOT* of windows based SIM cloner freely
available in the net why not any single Linux utility for this ???

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2007\09\20@011205 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 9/20/07, xxx xxx <bakshi12spamspam_OUTgmail.com> wrote:
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> thanks for your response. I am quite familiar with gnokii and it is
> *NOT* the SIM cloner/scanner at all. It is just like KMobile tool
> available in KDE and gnokii is actually designed fot Nokia mobile.  I
> wounder when there are *A LOT* of windows based SIM cloner freely
> available in the net why not any single Linux utility for this ???
>

You can ask a lot of questions why Linux does not have xxx.
Something like this will not help.
"There are *A LOT* of windows based xxx xxx freely available
in the net why not any single Linux utility for this ???" ;-) :-)

Seriously, you can make it if your have the skills. There is no
points asking why there is no such utilities. There are many
reasons. In this case, there is no general requirement to do this
and the legal aspect is not clear. So I'd prefer a Linux hacker
to improve gputils/sdcc/piklab/gpsim/pk2 than to do something
strange like a SIM card cloner...

Regards,
Xiaofan

2007\09\20@023404 by Russell McMahon

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> There are alot of GSM SIM card cloning/copier windows based S/W at
> the net.
> But is there any Linux based S/W for the same ?
> KMobile tools is there but it is not a SIM card copier/cloner.
> Please suggest me one if exists.

Would one of the Linux based Windows emulators work well enough for
this purpose?


       Russell.

2007\09\20@051411 by Tamas Rudnai

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Hi,

One legal reason I could imagine for this is for example I have a very old
SIM card which I forgot the PIN for. I have not succeed to find any of the
invoice / descriptions / PIN / PUK codes, basically everything about this
card, so phone provider would not open this card for me (aka would not give
me the PUK code). So I am not able to get the phone numbers out of it. Would
be nice if such a tool let me access to the data, in the other hand it
worries me a lot.

Tamas


On 9/20/07, Russell McMahon <@spam@apptechKILLspamspamparadise.net.nz> wrote:
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2007\09\20@082537 by Mauricio Giovagnini

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Tamas Rudnai escribió:
> Hi,
>
> One legal reason I could imagine for this is for example I have a very old
> SIM card which I forgot the PIN for. I have not succeed to find any of the
> invoice / descriptions / PIN / PUK codes, basically everything about this
> card, so phone provider would not open this card for me (aka would not give
> me the PUK code). So I am not able to get the phone numbers out of it. Would
> be nice if such a tool let me access to the data, in the other hand it
> worries me a lot.
>
> Tamas
>  
I think the 'worries' about the possible things that can be than with
such a tool are much more important
than the solutions it can give.

For example, if you lost your PUK or whatever... buy another one, it
costs 1 or 2 dollars, cheap enough
to be bought on every corner of this planet.

On the other hand, having a duplicated phone is not what I would like to
have... more over if its used
for ilegal purposes.  And talking about illegal we can go as far as we
want... kidnapping, drug dealers, etc.


The, If I'm a Mobile Service Company I woldn't unlock the PUK code to
any user, even if they come
with the nicest excuse of all.  I'll give him another chip (with money
involved or not) and problem solved.
The risks on a demand from a legal user whose mobile has been hacked or
duplicated would be far more
expensive...

Just a thought

2007\09\20@091339 by Tamas Rudnai

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Yes, I understand that and fully agree with that, however, a new chip:

1. brings new phone number which I may not what I want
2. phonebook could be on the SIM too, so I could loose my numbers by that
way

Most of the times if you can prove that the SIM legally belongs to you you
could get the PUK from the phone company, so no need new chip (except if you
hit wrong pin 3 times, then PUK 10 times...). The problem starts when you
cannot prove the legality - with a pre-pay phone you just buy it in a shop
just like any other ordinary products, then you use it without subscription.
You have only your bill as a prove - or you may be able to register yourself
with the provider but not all of us doing this.

I would be satisfied if provider had this tool saying, you've been stupid
loosing all your pin and puk, pay 20 euros and here is your saved phone book
and your old number in your new sim card. Probably I'd pay even 100.

Tamas



On 9/20/07, Mauricio Giovagnini <KILLspammaugiovagniniKILLspamspamyahoo.com.ar> wrote:
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2007\09\21@011509 by xxx xxx

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On 9/20/07, Russell McMahon <RemoveMEapptechTakeThisOuTspamparadise.net.nz> wrote:
> > There are alot of GSM SIM card cloning/copier windows based S/W at
> > the net.
> > But is there any Linux based S/W for the same ?
> > KMobile tools is there but it is not a SIM card copier/cloner.
> > Please suggest me one if exists.
>
> Would one of the Linux based Windows emulators work well enough for
> this purpose?
>
>
Chances are there. But as an user (non root) you need to have the
privileges (read/write)  on your com or usb port.  I have come to know
about gammu, the python based GUI is called wammu. but those are just
tool like KMobile with some added options. It seems at present there
is no linux based tool for doing SIM forensic & SIM cloning :-(



>         Russell.
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2007\09\21@050305 by YAP

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Superb info you have on you site. Keep up the good work! Look forward
to something similar on simcards etc.

Cheers
/Ake

On 9/20/07, xxx xxx <spamBeGonebakshi12spamBeGonespamgmail.com> wrote:
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2007\09\21@083443 by xxx xxx

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Thanks a lot :-)


On 9/21/07, YAP <x112358EraseMEspam.....gmail.com> wrote:
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2007\09\24@163840 by Mauricio Giovagnini

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Tamas Rudnai escribió:
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Number 1. is wrong.... you get the same number if you wish.  SIM and
Number are not rigid related.  They are associated in the GSM database
of your service provider, that's all.
2. Yes but its a risk I would assume that risk if I were a service
provider .  The benefits are bigger than the drawbacks (remember my
thought about illegal work that could be done with such a tool).  By the
way you can store the number in the phone and in the chip.  The goal of
the service provider is to provide GSM phone service, not 'repairing' or
related services.

Mauricio



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