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'Libraries for Windraft and Winboard'
1997\03\05@063222 by efoc

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Hi Peeps,
       I have just downloaded the Windraft V1.26a and Winboard V2.12 drafting
tools. Does anybody have or can anybody point me to a source for
Libraries for the PIC series.

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Cheers Peter ..........

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1997\03\05@090754 by rrose

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>         I have just downloaded the Windraft V1.26a and Winboard V2.12 drafting
> tools. Does anybody have or can anybody point me to a source for
> Libraries for the PIC series.

I have created a library for the Microchip PIC and EEPROM products.
I'm in the process of adding some of the new EEPROMs to the library.
If you want a copy when I get done, drop me a note.


Richard Rosenheim
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1997\03\05@090758 by rrose

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>         I have just downloaded the Windraft V1.26a and Winboard V2.12 drafting
> tools. Does anybody have or can anybody point me to a source for
> Libraries for the PIC series.

Oops, I forgot to mention that I only have created the library for
WinDraft.


Richard Rosenheim
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1997\03\05@115451 by David W. Duley

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In a message dated 97-03-05 06:32:37 EST, you write:

<<
Hi Peeps,
        I have just downloaded the Windraft V1.26a and Winboard V2.12
drafting
tools. Does anybody have or can anybody point me to a source for
Libraries for the PIC series.

--

Cheers Peter ..........

==================================
New Ideas come from those who
didn't know it wasn't possible
==================================
 >>
Peter,
Lots O Luck with those to pieces of S____.  I struggled with WinDraft and
WinBoard for several months and I came to several conclusions:
1) The writers of these applications (and they barely qualify as
applications) have not now or ever have written Windows code. (and this
includes these two things)
2) These two programs started out as a high school fortran project on a
comadore PET. and later ported to Windows.
3) The writers of these two programs have sighed a serect pact with all of
the other low cost PCB packages on the market with the net effect of making
everyone else look good, including other high school fortran projects!


Seriously though, I hope they fixed a whole lot of bugs.  After loosing all
your changes to a dialog box that presents you with an error mesage with one
option namley CLOSE,  you may change your mind.  They were helpful at first
when I called them but they promised me a new version would be comming out
soon (It never did) and then they started to flat out ignore me.
I quickly changed to SuperCad  and Super PCB by mental automation. Not bug
free but a whole lot better.

In answer to your  original question:  Check out the IVEX web site.  They
used to have a FTP section from users.  One of the files was PIC libraries.

Good luck
Dave Duley
V.P. DreiTek Inc.

1997\03\07@145354 by D. R. Chicotel

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At 11:53 AM 3/5/97 -0500, you wrote:
>In a message dated 97-03-05 06:32:37 EST, you write:

>Peter,
>Lots O Luck with those two pieces of S____.  I struggled with WinDraft and
>WinBoard for several months and I came to several conclusions:
>1) The writers of these applications (and they barely qualify as
>applications) have not now or ever have written Windows code. (and this
>includes these two things)
>2) These two programs started out as a high school fortran project on a
>comadore PET. and later ported to Windows.
>3) The writers of these two programs have sighed a serect pact with all of
>the other low cost PCB packages on the market with the net effect of making
>everyone else look good, including other high school fortran projects!
>

I thought you were joking until I spent half a day reviewing these two
programs.  Now I know you weren't joking.  In fact, you may have been too
kind.  No wonder they're free.  (I guess you get what you pay for.)

1997\03\07@191544 by David W. Duley

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In a message dated 97-03-07 15:42:48 EST, you write:

<< In a message dated 97-03-05 06:32:37 EST, you write:

>Peter,
>Lots O Luck with those two pieces of S____.  I struggled with WinDraft and
>WinBoard for several months and I came to several conclusions:
>1) The writers of these applications (and they barely qualify as
>applications) have not now or ever have written Windows code. (and this
>includes these two things)
>2) These two programs started out as a high school fortran project on a
>comadore PET. and later ported to Windows.
>3) The writers of these two programs have sighed a serect pact with all of
>the other low cost PCB packages on the market with the net effect of making
>everyone else look good, including other high school fortran projects!
>

I thought you were joking until I spent half a day reviewing these two
programs.  Now I know you weren't joking.  In fact, you may have been too
kind.  No wonder they're free.  (I guess you get what you pay for.) >>


Peter,
Yeah I might have padded the truth a bit but I didn't want to hurt your
feelings.  After all you may have been one of the people (like me) that paid
$29.95 for it.
I know it costs a bit more than free but SuperCad and SuperPCB from Mental
Automation (the're on the net) worked out great for me.  I couldn't quite
muster the $5000+ for OrCad.  I got both packages in the professional version
for about $800.  They have a scaled down version for low end use (4"X4" and
two layer) for around $150(?).  Its not without bugs but then what is.  At
least I have used it to produce 8 PCB's to date and some were up to 6 layers.
No complaints from the board house.  I hate to get those condesending calls
from the head layout guy at the PCB house telling me 25 different ways that
my layout sucks!
Good luck
Dave Duley
V.P. DreiTek inc.

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