Post by thread:Labels Revisited--adhesives this time

Yo Dudes and Dudettes: Got some of the Cannon Back Print film --available at your local Office Depot, Staples, etc, or from Canon. Its sort of a milky film that takes a reverse image on the frosted side. Foto Quality Color if you want it. The professionally made labels we have been using have a layer of a double-sided adhesive from 3-M. I can buy it in 4" widths from a local label company at $5 a foot--obscenely expensive, but the alternative is to drop a couple of hundred bucks to buy minimum quantities from the distributor. It seems to work great with the back print film--but the film will peel off the ink layer leaving the adhesive and ink on the part while the film peels off--you do have to work to get it off though. Anybody have any good ideas for alternate ways of sticking the labels down? Or sources for double-sided adhesive tape in wide widths at reasonable quantities and prices? Liquids might affect the image, so I haven't tried any of the spray-on adhesives yet, or artists fixatives before the adhesive goes on. Any thoughts or sources would be welcome. kelly William K. Borsum, P.E. -- OEM Dataloggers and Instrumentation Systems <spam_OUTborsumTakeThisOuTdascor.com> & <http://www.dascor.com>

{Quote hidden}> Yo Dudes and Dudettes: > > Got some of the Cannon Back Print film --available at your local Office > Depot, Staples, etc, or from Canon. Its sort of a milky film that takes a > reverse image on the frosted side. Foto Quality Color if you want it. > > The professionally made labels we have been using have a layer of a > double-sided adhesive from 3-M. I can buy it in 4" widths from a local > label company at $5 a foot--obscenely expensive, but the alternative is to > drop a couple of hundred bucks to buy minimum quantities from the distributor. > > It seems to work great with the back print film--but the film will peel off > the ink layer leaving the adhesive and ink on the part while the film peels > off--you do have to work to get it off though. > > Anybody have any good ideas for alternate ways of sticking the labels down? > Or sources for double-sided adhesive tape in wide widths at reasonable > quantities and prices? > > Liquids might affect the image, so I haven't tried any of the spray-on > adhesives yet, or artists fixatives before the adhesive goes on. > > Any thoughts or sources would be welcome. > > kelly > > William K. Borsum, P.E. -- OEM Dataloggers and Instrumentation Systems > <.....borsumKILLspam@spam@dascor.com> & <http://www.dascor.com> Kelly, I use 2" wide DS tape which cost me $NZ20 for a roll This seemed like heaps at the time but I'm surprised by the mileage I'm getting out of it. Do try the white spray paint on the back of your print idea, I know it sounds like a messy job but it really does give excellent results. Give it 2-3 hours of sunshine to dry, and then you can use DS tape or spray adhesive. BTW, I have some of that Canon back print film too - is it BF-102? Nicer if it had a matt finish instead of gloss. Brent Brown Electronic Design Solutions 16 English Street Hamilton, New Zealand Ph/fax: +64 7 849 0069 Mobile: 025 334 069 eMail: brent.brownKILLspamclear.net.nz

At 10:12 AM 9/23/99 +1200, you wrote: >> Yo Dudes and Dudettes: >> >> Got some of the Cannon Back Print film --available at your local Office >> Depot, Staples, etc, or from Canon. Its sort of a milky film that takes a >> reverse image on the frosted side. Foto Quality Color if you want it. >> >> The professionally made labels we have been using have a layer of a >> double-sided adhesive from 3-M. I can buy it in 4" widths from a local >> label company at $5 a foot--obscenely expensive, but the alternative is to >> drop a couple of hundred bucks to buy minimum quantities from the distributor. {Quote hidden}>> >> It seems to work great with the back print film--but the film will peel off >> the ink layer leaving the adhesive and ink on the part while the film peels >> off--you do have to work to get it off though. >> >> Anybody have any good ideas for alternate ways of sticking the labels down? >> Or sources for double-sided adhesive tape in wide widths at reasonable >> quantities and prices? >> >> Liquids might affect the image, so I haven't tried any of the spray-on >> adhesives yet, or artists fixatives before the adhesive goes on. > >I use 2" wide DS tape which cost me $NZ20 for a roll This seemed >like heaps at the time but I'm surprised by the mileage I'm getting >out of it. Do try the white spray paint on the back of your print >idea, I know it sounds like a messy job but it really does give >excellent results. Give it 2-3 hours of sunshine to dry, and then >you can use DS tape or spray adhesive. BTW, I have some of that >Canon back print film too - is it BF-102? Nicer if it had a matt >finish instead of gloss. > >Brent Brown >eMail: .....brent.brownKILLspam.....clear.net.nz Brent: Appreciate the feedback. Indeed the film is BF102. got it on sale somewhere for $5 for five sheets--regular price was $15 US plus a free cannon starter kit. A matt finish would be nice. I'll keep my eyes open here. Any particular type of white spray paint? Acrylic, enamel, or ?? And, what pray tell, is DS tape--just double sided? Any particular brand or model? Also, what has been your experience with the labels peeling off over time? These are proof-of-concept units and I would hate for them to fall apart in a few weeks/months. Seem to recall visiting Hamilton once. Another lifetime ago. Did one of those fly/drive things. Had a wonderful time, and would love to come back someday. Enjoy, Kelly William K. Borsum, P.E. -- OEM Dataloggers and Instrumentation Systems <EraseMEborsumspam_OUTTakeThisOuTdascor.com> & <http://www.dascor.com>San Diego, California, USA

> Brent: > Appreciate the feedback. Indeed the film is BF102. got it on sale > somewhere for $5 for five sheets--regular price was $15 US plus a free > cannon starter kit. > A matt finish would be nice. I'll keep my eyes open here. > Any particular type of white spray paint? Acrylic, enamel, or ?? > And, what pray tell, is DS tape--just double sided? Any particular brand > or model? > > Also, what has been your experience with the labels peeling off over time? > These are proof-of-concept units and I would hate for them to fall apart in > a few weeks/months. > > Seem to recall visiting Hamilton once. Another lifetime ago. Did one of > those fly/drive things. Had a wonderful time, and would love to come back > someday. > > Enjoy, Kelly Sorry, DS is just my shorthand for double sided tape. Mine is Sellotape brand, sticks like a sticky thing and never lets go, water proof even. (I heard that some double sided tapes are approved for use in aircraft manufacture, don't try this at home) I use white gloss enamel paint, although it is tricky to get good coverage. Undercoat worked well at first, but then I discovered that it discoloured with age and it really soaked up moisture. Long term results? Really good - if you keep it dry. If water is present the film coating slowly draws it in from the edges and spoils the printing. If you want cheap water proof labels use a laser print with the same method. Hamilton is OK, but we don't grow nice oranges here... Brent Brown Electronic Design Solutions 16 English Street Hamilton, New Zealand Ph/fax: +64 7 849 0069 Mobile: 025 334 069 eMail: brent.brownspam_OUTclear.net.nz