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1999\09\22@030328 by William K. Borsum

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Yo Dudes and Dudettes:

Got some of the Cannon Back Print film --available at your local Office
Depot, Staples, etc, or from Canon.  Its sort of a milky film that takes a
reverse image on the frosted side.  Foto Quality Color if you want it.

The professionally made labels we have been using have a layer of a
double-sided adhesive from 3-M.   I can buy it in 4" widths from a local
label company at $5 a foot--obscenely expensive, but the alternative is to
drop a couple of hundred bucks to buy minimum quantities from the distributor.

It seems to work great with the back print film--but the film will peel off
the ink layer leaving the adhesive and ink on the part while the film peels
off--you do have to work to get it off  though.

Anybody have any good ideas for alternate ways of sticking the labels down?
Or sources for double-sided adhesive tape in wide widths at reasonable
quantities and prices?

Liquids might affect the image, so I haven't tried any of the spray-on
adhesives yet, or artists fixatives before the adhesive goes on.

Any thoughts or sources would be welcome.

kelly




William K. Borsum, P.E. -- OEM Dataloggers and Instrumentation Systems
<spam_OUTborsumTakeThisOuTspamdascor.com> & <http://www.dascor.com>

1999\09\22@181446 by Brent Brown

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Kelly,

I use 2" wide DS tape which cost me $NZ20 for a roll  This seemed
like heaps at the time but I'm surprised by the mileage I'm getting
out of it.  Do try the white spray paint on the back of your print
idea, I know it sounds like a messy job but it really does give
excellent results.  Give it 2-3 hours of sunshine to dry, and then
you can use DS tape or spray adhesive.  BTW, I have some of that
Canon back print film too - is it BF-102?  Nicer if it had a matt
finish instead of gloss.

Brent Brown
Electronic Design Solutions
16 English Street
Hamilton, New Zealand
Ph/fax: +64 7 849 0069
Mobile: 025 334 069
eMail:  brent.brownspamKILLspamclear.net.nz

1999\09\23@033536 by William K. Borsum

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At 10:12 AM 9/23/99 +1200, you wrote:
>> Yo Dudes and Dudettes:
>>
>> Got some of the Cannon Back Print film --available at your local Office
>> Depot, Staples, etc, or from Canon.  Its sort of a milky film that takes a
>> reverse image on the frosted side.  Foto Quality Color if you want it.
>>
>> The professionally made labels we have been using have a layer of a
>> double-sided adhesive from 3-M.   I can buy it in 4" widths from a local
>> label company at $5 a foot--obscenely expensive, but the alternative is to
>> drop a couple of hundred bucks to buy minimum quantities from the
distributor.
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Brent:
Appreciate the feedback.  Indeed the film is BF102.  got it on sale
somewhere for $5 for five sheets--regular price was $15 US plus a free
cannon starter kit.
A matt finish would be nice.  I'll keep my eyes open here.
Any particular type of white spray paint?  Acrylic, enamel, or ??
And, what pray tell, is DS tape--just double sided?  Any particular brand
or model?

Also, what has been your experience with the labels peeling off over time?
These are proof-of-concept units and I would hate for them to fall apart in
a few weeks/months.

Seem to recall visiting Hamilton once.  Another lifetime ago.  Did one of
those fly/drive things.  Had a wonderful time, and would love to come back
someday.

Enjoy, Kelly




William K. Borsum, P.E. -- OEM Dataloggers and Instrumentation Systems
<EraseMEborsumspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTdascor.com> & <http://www.dascor.com>San Diego, California, USA

1999\09\23@185327 by Brent Brown

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> Brent:
> Appreciate the feedback.  Indeed the film is BF102.  got it on sale
> somewhere for $5 for five sheets--regular price was $15 US plus a free
> cannon starter kit.
> A matt finish would be nice.  I'll keep my eyes open here.
> Any particular type of white spray paint?  Acrylic, enamel, or ??
> And, what pray tell, is DS tape--just double sided?  Any particular brand
> or model?
>
> Also, what has been your experience with the labels peeling off over time?
> These are proof-of-concept units and I would hate for them to fall apart in
> a few weeks/months.
>
> Seem to recall visiting Hamilton once.  Another lifetime ago.  Did one of
> those fly/drive things.  Had a wonderful time, and would love to come back
> someday.
>
> Enjoy, Kelly

Sorry, DS is just my shorthand for double sided tape.  Mine is
Sellotape brand, sticks like a sticky thing and never lets go, water
proof even.  (I heard that some double sided tapes are approved for
use in aircraft manufacture, don't try this at home)

I use white gloss enamel paint, although it is tricky to get good
coverage.  Undercoat worked well at first, but then I discovered that
it discoloured with age and it really soaked up moisture.

Long term results?  Really good - if you keep it dry.  If water is
present the film coating slowly draws it in from the edges and
spoils the printing.  If you want cheap water proof labels use a laser
print with the same method.

Hamilton is OK, but we don't grow nice oranges here...

Brent Brown
Electronic Design Solutions
16 English Street
Hamilton, New Zealand
Ph/fax: +64 7 849 0069
Mobile: 025 334 069
eMail:  brent.brownspamspam_OUTclear.net.nz

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