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1997\06\04@220254 by Steve Hardy

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Just a quick one - who is the Australian distributor(s) for Lattice
ISP GALs etc.?  (All this talk about the ispGAL22V10 made me realise
it is just perfect for an upcoming project).

Regards,
SJH
Canberra, Australia

1997\06\05@012250 by Clyde Smith-Stubbs

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On Thu, Jun 05, 1997 at 12:00:42PM -0400, Steve Hardy wrote:
> Just a quick one - who is the Australian distributor(s) for Lattice
> ISP GALs etc.?  (All this talk about the ispGAL22V10 made me realise

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1997\06\05@013350 by Steve Hardy

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Thanks to all who suggested Zatek - I've just ordered the 'Synario'
kit for $350 plus tax(*) - now I won't be able to sleep until it comes
in the post.  In the meantime I think I'll just ditch all that old
74 TTL that's lying around gathering dust...

Regards,
SJH
Canberra, Australia

(*) It seems unreasonable of the ATO to tax this at the 'hardware'
rate just because there's a cable and a few sample devices.  It's
mainly the software that you're paying for after all!

1997\06\05@220650 by Mike Smith

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> From: Steve Hardy <.....hardyKILLspamspam@spam@SWENG.STORTEK.COM>
> To: PICLISTspamKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: ISP GAL
> Date: Friday, 6 June 1997 06:04
>
> Thanks to all who suggested Zatek - I've just ordered the 'Synario'
> kit for $350 plus tax(*) - now I won't be able to sleep until it comes
> in the post.  In the meantime I think I'll just ditch all that old
> 74 TTL that's lying around gathering dust...
>
> Regards,
> SJH
> Canberra, Australia
>
> (*) It seems unreasonable of the ATO to tax this at the 'hardware'
> rate just because there's a cable and a few sample devices.  It's
> mainly the software that you're paying for after all!

Should get Lattice / Zatek to 'split' it cost-wise - must be possible...
Alternatively, quote a tax number as it certainly qualifies as an 'Aid to
manufacture'

MikeS
<.....mikesmith_ozKILLspamspam.....relaymail.net>

1997\06\05@232705 by Steve Hardy

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> From: Mike Smith <EraseMEmikesmith_ozspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTRELAYMAIL.NET>
> >
> > (*) It seems unreasonable of the ATO to tax this at the 'hardware'
> > rate just because there's a cable and a few sample devices.  It's
> > mainly the software that you're paying for after all!
>
> Should get Lattice / Zatek to 'split' it cost-wise - must be possible...
> Alternatively, quote a tax number as it certainly qualifies as an 'Aid to
> manufacture'

I wish!  Unfortunately, I'm just a hobbyist so, unless there's something
I've been missing all these years, I can't avoid all this sales tax.
Plus I don't know any good (creative?) accountants/tax lawyers...

Regards,
SJH
Canberra, Australia

1997\06\05@234347 by Sarunas Cepulis

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Steve Hardy wrote:
>
> > From: Mike Smith <mikesmith_ozspamspam_OUTRELAYMAIL.NET>
> > >
> > > (*) It seems unreasonable of the ATO to tax this at the 'hardware'
> > > rate just because there's a cable and a few sample devices.  It's
> > > mainly the software that you're paying for after all!
> >
> > Should get Lattice / Zatek to 'split' it cost-wise - must be possible...
> > Alternatively, quote a tax number as it certainly qualifies as an 'Aid to
> > manufacture'
>
> I wish!  Unfortunately, I'm just a hobbyist so, unless there's something
> I've been missing all these years, I can't avoid all this sales tax.
> Plus I don't know any good (creative?) accountants/tax lawyers...
>
> Regards,
> SJH
> Canberra, Australia
Hi ,
Aweryone,
who can post the program algorythms ????
if you can ?,
About ISP we all now very mutch, just look in
Latice's or Altera's sites.
Who about obsollete chips , who lies in our
drawers,
& about our opinion like a ELECTRONIC's
specialists ???????
       Saras.

1997\06\05@234811 by Ross McKenzie

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At 12:57 PM 6/6/97 EST, you wrote:
>> From: Mike Smith <@spam@mikesmith_ozKILLspamspamRELAYMAIL.NET>
>> >
>> > (*) It seems unreasonable of the ATO to tax this at the 'hardware'
>> > rate just because there's a cable and a few sample devices.  It's
>> > mainly the software that you're paying for after all!
>>
>> Should get Lattice / Zatek to 'split' it cost-wise - must be possible...
>> Alternatively, quote a tax number as it certainly qualifies as an 'Aid to
>> manufacture'
>
>I wish!  Unfortunately, I'm just a hobbyist so, unless there's something
>I've been missing all these years, I can't avoid all this sales tax.
>Plus I don't know any good (creative?) accountants/tax lawyers...
>
>Regards,
>SJH
>Canberra, Australia
>

Ahh, do you remember the good old days when the tax on components for public
address systems were at a lower sales tax level than general componentry?
Come to think of it, there was an awful lot of PA systems being built in
those days <g>.

Regards,

Ross McKenzie
Melbourne Australia

1997\06\06@042341 by Mike

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>> Should get Lattice / Zatek to 'split' it cost-wise - must be possible...
>> Alternatively, quote a tax number as it certainly qualifies as an 'Aid to
>> manufacture'
>
>I wish!  Unfortunately, I'm just a hobbyist so, unless there's something
>I've been missing all these years, I can't avoid all this sales tax.
>Plus I don't know any good (creative?) accountants/tax lawyers...

Hey - if you ever make even $2 from the sale of any part of your work,
then you qualify as a business and therefore can claim lots of
deductions and you are entitled to a sales tax number.

Even if you don't make a profit over the course of 7 years then you can
still be earning income from your labours (no pun) and if you ever
buy any parts/tools then these qualify as 'aids to manufacture'...

If you are comfortable with engineering then you should be able to
understand the tax act - hard to believe but its true, actually the
tax act is more like bad programming by a team of people that never
shared a social life - or understood the real world !

Rgds

Mike
Perth, Western Australia



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1997\06\06@082603 by Andy Kunz

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>actually the
>tax act is more like bad programming by a team of people that never
>shared a social life - or understood the real world !

OK, so do you mean bean counters or politicians?  Or both?

<G>

Andy

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