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'Hi-Tech C Compiler'
1998\05\07@061114 by David Callaert

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Hello,

I want to start programming a PIC microcontroller, but i am new in this.
I am used to program a 8032 microcontroller in C. So, now i want to
program a PIC microcontroller also in C.

Can anyone tell me if this Hi-tech C compiler is good, or did anyone had
some problems with it?

Thanks,

David Callaert

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1998\05\07@074612 by Andy Kunz

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>Can anyone tell me if this Hi-tech C compiler is good, or did anyone had
>some problems with it?

It's VERY good, but like anything so new, it isn't perfect.  I have done
several commercial products with it with no complaints.

Andy


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1998\05\07@181056 by Dennis Plunkett

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At 02:59 AM 7/05/98 PDT, David Callaertwrote:
>Hello,
>
>I want to start programming a PIC microcontroller, but i am new in this.
>I am used to program a 8032 microcontroller in C. So, now i want to
>program a PIC microcontroller also in C.
>
>Can anyone tell me if this Hi-tech C compiler is good, or did anyone had
>some problems with it?
>
>Thanks,
>
>David Callaert
>


Hi Tech is GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dennis

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1998\05\07@214840 by Mark S.

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And expensive, right?


>
>Hi Tech is GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Dennis
>
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>Dennis Plunkett: Embedded Hardware, Software design
>NEC Australia DRMASS
>Line Interface cards
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>ISDN interface card
>ph 03 9264-3867
>
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>

1998\05\07@230827 by Dennis Plunkett

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At 06:42 PM 7/05/98 -0700, Mark S wrote:
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>And expensive, right?
>
>
>>
>>Hi Tech is GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>Dennis
>>

Time for a history lesson. In the beginning, there was a little company
located in a house at the bottom of a big hill in Alderly Queensland. They
made C compilers and they where (For starter and first releases) good, and
the cost of these compilers was a mire $50 (About 25 cents US at the current
market rate). But hardly anyone brought software from the little company in
the house at the bottom of the big hill. Everyone (Nearly) thought that the
software was TOO CHEEP to be any better than the already existing C
compilers costing many megga bucks.

Then one day the owners of the little company located in the house at the
bottom of the big hill came unto an idea, "Lets increase the price of the
software, then people will think that it is good". So the owners of the
little----- did that. Now people think, that the C compilers produced by the
Largish company located in a nice house at the top of the hill in a very
well to do suburb are good, but perhaps too expensive.

On a personal note, I don't think that the Hi Tech software is expensive, at
around $695 Aust for most of the compilers it is good, and one advantage is
that all of the compilers have a generic type feel, so we don't have to
spend lotts of time learning a new compiler for a new processor (This in
itself is a large saving, taking one day to learn how to drive a linker in a
new compiler can cost more than the compiler is worth!). As for the term
expensive? Perhaps not, there are some compilers out there, say for a 68xxx
that cost over $3000, and how much would you expect to pay for the Hi tech?
about $900, bonus!!

But for a hobbyist, this may seem over the top and the $120 for the PIC C is
cheep and affordable

Dennis

1998\05\08@023634 by Mark S.

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Does HI-TEC offer a $120 pic only compiler?


>But for a hobbyist, this may seem over the top and the $120 for the PIC C is
>cheep and affordable
>
>Dennis

Thanks,
Mark

>

1998\05\08@085918 by Andy Kunz

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At 06:42 PM 5/7/98 -0700, you wrote:
>And expensive, right?

I don't know about you, but for me the cost of failure would require about
two to three decimal place shifts to the right over the price of the
compiler, depending on who I'm billing to.  Sorry, but "cheap" doesn't
count then.  It isn't hard to justify an $800 expense against an $800,000
failure now, is it!

Andy

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1998\05\08@110853 by peter

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Andy Kunz wrote:
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> At 06:42 PM 5/7/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >And expensive, right?
>
> I don't know about you, but for me the cost of failure would require about
> two to three decimal place shifts to the right over the price of the
> compiler, depending on who I'm billing to.  Sorry, but "cheap" doesn't
> count then.  It isn't hard to justify an $800 expense against an $800,000
> failure now, is it!

Personally I think it's extortionate, I'm glad that you seem to think
it's
a drop in the ocean, but I don't think many people think it is.

If your a fulltime programmer then it maybe justifiable but if you're
a student or just starting to learn ?

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1998\05\09@010030 by Michael Ghormley

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Mark S. wrote:

> Does HI-TEC offer a $120 pic only compiler?

To my knowledge, HI-TEC doesn't offer anything remotely resembling a C
compiler for $120.

I am not the original poster, but my read on it was that he was talking
about the CCS C compiler.  His mention of $120 is probably Aussie
dollars, which would roughly be $99 US, I think.

Just my guess.  I may be wrong.

Michael

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'Hi-Tech C Compiler'
1998\06\05@121049 by Allan Hopkins
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In a message dated 98-05-07 07:46:14 EDT, you write:

<< >Can anyone tell me if this Hi-tech C compiler is good, or did anyone had
>some problems with it? >>

I have also had alot of success with it, no problems so far.

Allan

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