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1999\07\18@084909 by Les

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Hi
   I have just received the HI-Tech C compiler and I find it very
unfriendly indeed, I am just learning C and the documentation is way above
my head. I have been looking at the CCS compiler and it looks much better if
anyone is willing to swap please contact me off list.

                               Thanks
                                           Les


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1999\07\18@104414 by tmariner

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Les,

Try hooking it into MPLAB and it becomes a lot more friendly. Once you set
up the tools and do a project, it becomes point and click.

For documentation, I would suggest "A Book on C" by Kelley/Pohl or "The C
Programming Language Second Edition" by K&R since HiTech is really just ANSI
C with virtually no gotchas.

If you really want to sell it (for a discount), let me know because we can
always use a few more licenses.

Tom
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>
> Hi
>     I have just received the HI-Tech C compiler and I find it very
> unfriendly indeed, I am just learning C and the documentation
> is way above
> my head. I have been looking at the CCS compiler and it looks
> much better if
> anyone is willing to swap please contact me off list.

1999\07\18@164058 by Clyde Smith-Stubbs

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On Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 01:53:00PM +0100, Les wrote:
> Hi
>     I have just received the HI-Tech C compiler and I find it very
> unfriendly indeed, I am just learning C and the documentation is way above
> my head.

If you're just learning C, trying to combine that with programming a PIC
is indeed daunting (and I doubt you'd find that switching compilers will help
a great deal).

As Tom suggested, get a good book on C - I concur with "A Book on C" but not
K&R, and would add a recommendation for "Programming in ANSI C" by Kochan.

Also, I recommend you go to our web site and download Pacific C, which is
a freeware DOS compiler - it will allow you to do your C learning in a much
easier way than in a PIC. The direct URL is:

http://www.htsoft.com/products/pacific.html

or just follow the Free Software link on our front page. This compiler is used
by many teaching institutions for first courses in C.

Regards, Clyde

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1999\07\18@201848 by Dan Creagan

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The CCS compiler does have very good examples in the back of the book and
throughout the manual. Once you get the basics out of the way, it is a good
place to start.  I don't have the Hi-Tech, but my understanding is that it
doesn't have examples. For a new person to PICs, that is pretty hard
cheese - even if they DO know C.

Get used to C syntax by making simple programs on your PC and then move to
programming microcontrollers.

If you want to see some very basic CCS syntax, look at my Easy Pic'n
examples at: http://204.233.101.40/robots/pic1.html . If you understand what
is happening with them, then maybe you could move into programming the PIC.
However, if they don't make much sense, then you might want to consider a
self-study on the PC for a bit.

Good luck,

Dan

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1999\07\18@213510 by Clyde Smith-Stubbs

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On Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 07:19:27PM -0500, Dan Creagan wrote:
> place to start.  I don't have the Hi-Tech, but my understanding is that it
> doesn't have examples. For a new person to PICs, that is pretty hard

It does have examples.

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