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1995\12\02@195341 by Juan Abba

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Can someone please tell me is the GET procedure from =
spam_OUTLISTSERVTakeThisOuTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU
had changed.??????
Two months ago I was able to get the entire month list activity using=
something like the following
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II     To: .....LISTSERVKILLspamspam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU                                          =
                         II
II     From: juanabbaspamKILLspamax.ibase.org.br (JuanJose Abba)                       =
                         II
II     Subject:                                                             =
                                                      II
II                                                                          =
                                                           II
II     GET  PICLIST  LOG9508                                                =
                                       II
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I am trying the same command  for some weeks now. and I am nor getting any=
kind of answer
from the system.   The files do not come, neither a rejection to my request,

on the other hand, other commands to same LIST are still working, as you can=
see from the
system answer to an shown as follows;=7F
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II     From: BITNET list server at MITVMA <.....LISTSERVKILLspamspam.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU> (1.8a)=
II
II     Subject: File: "PICLIST FILELIST"                                    =
                                       II
II     To: Juan Jose Abba <EraseMEjuanabbaspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTAX.IBASE.ORG.BR>                        =
                    II
II     X-Envelope-to: juanabbaspamspam_OUTAX.IBASE.ORG.BR                              =
                         II
II                                                                          =
                                                               II
II     *  PICLIST FILELIST for LISTSERV@MITVMA.                             =
                       II
II     *                                                                    =
                                                              II
II     *  Archives for list PICLIST (pic microcontroller discussion list)   =
                          II
II     *                                                                    =
                                                              II
II     *  The GET/PUT authorization codes shown with each file entry=
describe                 II
II     *  who is authorized to GET or PUT the file:                         =
                                     II
II     *                                                                    =
                                                              II
II     *     ALL =3D Everybody                                              =
                                                  II
II     *     OWN =3D List owners                                            =
                                                 II
II     *                                                                    =
                                                              II
II     *  NOTEBOOK archives for the list                                    =
                                       II
II     *  (Monthly notebook)                                                =
                                                 II
II     *                             rec               last - change        =
                                                     II
II     * filename filetype   GET PUT -fm lrecl nrecs   date     time        =
                              II
II     * -------- --------   --- --- --- ----- ----- -------- --------      =
                                          II
II       PICLIST  LOG9408    ALL OWN V      80  2857 95/01/17 06:39:39      =
                 II
II       PICLIST  LOG9409    ALL OWN V      80  3980 95/01/17 06:39:03      =
                 II
II       PICLIST  LOG9410    ALL OWN V      80  3202 95/01/17 06:38:40      =
                 II
II       PICLIST  LOG9411    ALL OWN V      80  9202 95/01/17 06:37:57      =
                 II
II       PICLIST  LOG9412    ALL OWN V      88  8735 95/01/17 06:36:13      =
                 II
II       PICLIST  LOG9501    ALL OWN V      84 14310 95/01/31 21:36:3       =
                 II
II       PICLIST  LOG9502    ALL OWN V      84 10909 95/02/28 11:216        =
                  II
II       PICLIST  LOG9503    ALL OWN V      84  9667 95/03/31 18:4:35       =
                   II
II       PICLIST  LOG9504    ALL OWN V      84  7475 95/04/30 19:01:10      =
                  II
II       PICLIST  LOG9505    ALL OWN V      92 11489 95/05/31 21:09:50      =
                 II
II       PICLIST  LOG9506    ALL OWN V      84 17833 95/06/30 18:45:54      =
                 II
II       PICLIST  LOG9507    ALL OWN V      84 12592 95/07/31 21:53:45      =
                 II
II       PICLIST  LOG9508    ALL OWN V      86 17609 95/08/31 15:50:55      =
                 II
II       PICLIST  LOG9509    ALL OWN V      80 17332 95/09/30 23:55:27      =
                 II
II       PICLIST  LOG9510    ALL OWN V      83  4101 95/10/05 19:29:21      =
                  II
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can somebody explain what am I  doing wrong
juanabba
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1995\12\02@211622 by Juan Abba

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As the file format was partially lost during manipulation, I am sending
it again.  Sorry for the inconvinience.


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1995\12\03@204136 by Przemek Klosowski

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One person writes
  >Can someone please tell me is the GET procedure from
  > LISTSERVEraseMEspam.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU had changed.??????
  >
Fifteen other persons write
  > UNSUBSCRIBE

I get a stern 'reject' message every time I post to the list.


Man, I really wish we agreed to having a newsgroup...

                       przemek klosowski (EraseMEprzemekspamnist.gov)
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                       National Institute of Standards and Technology
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                       (301) 975 6249

1995\12\04@221145 by William D. McMillan

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Ditto.  I'm trying to unsubscribe this account so I can get it transfered to
my .edu address, but no dice so far.  The SIGNOFF PICLIST command doesn't
work so far.

1995\12\09@083832 by Juan Abba

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Following message was sent twice already,  and no one from the LIST
administration had said a word about it.
IS THERE SOMEBODY THAT HAS AN ADDRESS I CAN E-MAIL TO IN ORDER  TO ESCALATE THE
PROBLEM????
thanks
RemoveMEjuanabbaEraseMEspamEraseMEax.apc.org (Juan Abba)

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1995\12\09@161032 by rrose

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> Following message was sent twice already,  and no one from the LIST
>  administration had said a word about it.
> IS THERE SOMEBODY THAT HAS AN ADDRESS I CAN E-MAIL TO IN ORDER  TO ESCALATE
THE
>  PROBLEM????

I too have sent a message to the sysop requesting help on this
problem.  I too have yet to get a response.

Richard Rosenheim
KILLspamrrosespamBeGonespamaccessnv.com

1995\12\12@171256 by ellis

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On Mon, 4 Dec 1995 22:10:06 -0500, you wrote:

>_Ditto.  I'm trying to unsubscribe this account so I can get it transfered to
>_my .edu address, but no dice so far.  The SIGNOFF PICLIST command doesn't
>_work so far.

When I changed from office e-mail address to home, I signed off from
the office with :

To : EraseMElistservspamEraseMEmitvma.mit.edu

signoff piclist local

There is no need to have a subject line or anything else.


Ellis Skinazi                                     Everything in excess,
Internet : @spam@ellis@spam@spamspam_OUTellski.demon.co.uk                 moderation is for monks.
Compuserve : 74003,3574

1995\12\17@194251 by Juan Abba

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For more than a month, I am trying to get the October and later the November
PICLIST archives.
As GET is not working I have asked for help the PICLIST as well as the list
owner at two different address,(  spamBeGonejoryspamKILLspammit.edu       and   .....joryspam_OUTspamfigment.mit.edu
    (jory bell)
but I still with no hints of what may be happening, except some suggestions " to
send the HELP request to a different address, which of course I am
doing,(TakeThisOuTLISTSERV.....spamTakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU)."
the message I sent to jory at both address above, is as follows, but no answer
to it do far.

ANY SUGESTION   ??????
Juanabba


Hi Jory, are you getting our messages at all????
attached one was sent a week ago
juanabba

Hi, Jory
this is my message asking for help on the GET command that does not work
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> Following message was sent twice already,  and no one from the LIST
>  administration had said a word about it.
> IS THERE SOMEBODY THAT HAS AN ADDRESS I CAN E-MAIL TO IN ORDER  TO ESCALATE
THE
>  PROBLEM????

this is from another user
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I too have sent a message to the sysop requesting help on this
problem.  I too have yet to get a response.

Richard Rosenheim
TakeThisOuTrroseKILLspamspamspamaccessnv.com

1995\12\19@070554 by William Kitchen

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Juan Abba wrote:
>
> For more than a month, I am trying to get the October and later the November
>  PICLIST archives.......snip.....
>
> ANY SUGESTION   ??????
> Juanabba

Hello Juan,

I don't know about the GET command (I've never tried to use it), but you can
access
PIC-list back mail on the WWW using a request form at
http://pasture.ecn.purdue.edu/~laird/MLists/

Willaim Kitchen

1995\12\19@123943 by Juan Jose Abba

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Willaim
Thanks a lot for taking your time to help.
As my Internet provider is very poor except on E-mail, is there a way to get the
PICLIST files for each complete month (  using E-Mail ) with just one command
from the WWW????
thanks again

Juan Abba

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Willaim Kitchen
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1995\12\19@134737 by William Kitchen

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Juan Jose Abba wrote:
>
> Willaim
> Thanks a lot for taking your time to help.
> As my Internet provider is very poor except on E-mail, is there a way to get
the
>  PICLIST files for each complete month (  using E-Mail ) with just one command
>  from the WWW????
> thanks again
>
> Juan Abba

Hello Juan, I tried sending commands to the list server just to see what would
happen.  I sent the "INDEX PICLIST" command first to the address
.....listservspamRemoveMEmitvma.bitnet that is mentioned in the message that I first received
from
the list server. The message was returned as undeliverable.  I then tried
sending
it to the other address, RemoveMElistservspamspamBeGonemitvma.mit.edu and it worked ok.  Then I sent
the
"GET PICLIST LOG9512" command to this same address and it returned the
appropriate
mail archive just as it should have.  So the first address mentioned in the
instructions from the list server is invalid, but the alternate address works.
I
don't know if this is what was causing problems for you, but it could be.
Anyway,
I hope this information helps.

Good luck,

William Kitchen

1995\12\19@153408 by Lee Jones

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On Tue, 19 Dec 1995 12:45:04 -0800, William Kitchen wrote:

> I tried sending commands to the list server just to see what would
> happen.  I sent the "INDEX PICLIST" command first to the address
> spamBeGonelistserv@spam@spamspam_OUTmitvma.bitnet [...] The message was returned as undeliverable.

Who returned the mail?  MIT -- I doubt it.  Or you local mail router
because it didn't know how to route to the BITNET domain.

> [then I tried] TakeThisOuTlistservspamspammitvma.mit.edu and it worked ok. [...] So the
> first address mentioned in the instructions from the list server is invalid

Please don't confuse people.  Because an address is invalid for you does
not mean it is invalid for everyone.

BITNET and the Internet are two, disjoint nationwide networks.  They use
different protocols.  BITNET is based on large IBM mainframe computers.
I believe MITVMA is a big IBM.  And it is probably directly connected to
both BITNET and the Internet.  As an aside, BITNET is shrinking (some
would say losing out to the Internet).

Depending on connectivity of the SENDER's (i.e. your) machine, either
or both addresses may work.  If you're on the Internet and need to get
to a BITNET only node, you can route via interbit.cren.net for email.
I expect "mitvma%bitnetEraseMEspaminterbit.cren.net" would work.

                                               Lee Jones

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1995\12\19@233958 by William Kitchen

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> On Tue, 19 Dec 1995 12:45:04 -0800, William Kitchen wrote:
>
> > I tried sending commands to the list server just to see what would
> > happen.  I sent the "INDEX PICLIST" command first to the address
> > @spam@listservRemoveMEspamEraseMEmitvma.bitnet [...] The message was returned as undeliverable.
>
> Who returned the mail?  MIT -- I doubt it.  Or you local mail router
> because it didn't know how to route to the BITNET domain.

Yes, it was the local mail router.  I don't think MIT would have described
the problem as being "undeliverable".

> BITNET and the Internet are two, disjoint nationwide networks.  They use
> different protocols.  BITNET is based on large IBM mainframe computers.
> I believe MITVMA is a big IBM.  And it is probably directly connected to
> both BITNET and the Internet.  As an aside, BITNET is shrinking (some
> would say losing out to the Internet).

Thanks for clearing that up.  But nonetheless, it is possible this
difference could account for some of the difficulty that some may have with
getting the list server to respond to commands.

William Kitchen

1995\12\20@091324 by Siegfried Grob

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> As my Internet provider is very poor except on E-mail, is there a way to get
the
> PICLIST files for each complete month (  using E-Mail ) with just one command
> from the WWW????
> thanks again

> Juan Abba

try sending (as an example:)
       GET PICLIST LOG9508
                      ^^^^
                      this is the year and month
to
       EraseMELISTSERVspam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU

and you will get one huge email with all mails of August 95.


Siggi

1995\12\20@091324 by Siegfried Grob

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> As my Internet provider is very poor except on E-mail, is there a way to get
the
> PICLIST files for each complete month (  using E-Mail ) with just one command
> from the WWW????
> thanks again

> Juan Abba

try sending (as an example:)
       GET PICLIST LOG9508
                      ^^^^
                      this is the year and month
to
       @spam@LISTSERVspam_OUTspam.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU

and you will get one huge email with all mails of August 95.


Siggi

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