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'Funniest Y2K Joke Ever! --> Cost of RAM'
1999\01\07@194248 by Russell McMahon

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From: William Chops Westfield <spam_OUTbillwTakeThisOuTspamCISCO.COM>
   >    And if people weren't hung up on saving every little bit of
RAM, it
   >    wouldn't be a problem now, either.
   >
>I don't think RAM had anything to do with it.  Going to a
4-character year
>would have used up an additional 2.5% of the available columns on
the
>punched card, and taken away characters from some other field.


I'm pretty sure memory was a major issue. The "youngsters" amongst us
probably don't appreciate how much the price of RAM has fallen and
the amount has risen. My first home built system had 256 bytes afair
and useful commercial systems with 4K of core were common -  I think
the PDP8 at the engineering school in 1970 (big as 2 closets - 2
doors walk in) with less power than an original IBM PC had 4K.

With this sort of memory every bit counted - something like using a
PIC :-).

regards

           Russell McMahon

1999\01\08@022238 by Mark Willis

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Russell McMahon wrote:
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 My first Z80, S100 system had a whole 64kB of RAM, built wire-wrapped,
of 4k by 1-bit RAM chips ($30 apiece IIRC?  times 128 or 144 =
$3900+ish!)  Most systems had only 32kB.  (ZCPR3 ring a bell?)  That's
been a while, I don't remember if it had parity or not, now!  Do
remember we "Shadow Ram"-ed the ROM on bootup & could run patch.com to
fix any OS bugs, which was handy as we didn't have an EPRom burner at
first, and DID have OS bugs to spare.

 Man, THESE are the days, those sure weren't in some BIG ways <G>  CPU
power and RAM are almost free nowadays, by comparison!

 Mark "I can still change card punch ribbons in my sleep", same as some
others I'm sure!  mwillisspamKILLspamnwlink.com

1999\01\08@112023 by dave vanhorn

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>  My first Z80, S100 system had a whole 64kB of RAM, built wire-wrapped,
>of 4k by 1-bit RAM chips ($30 apiece IIRC?  times 128 or 144 =
>$3900+ish!)  Most systems had only 32kB.  (ZCPR3 ring a bell?)  That's
>been a while, I don't remember if it had parity or not, now!  Do
>remember we "Shadow Ram"-ed the ROM on bootup & could run patch.com to
>fix any OS bugs, which was handy as we didn't have an EPRom burner at
>first, and DID have OS bugs to spare.

How about an 8k bios, ZCPR3, and multiple computers sharing hard drives on
a SCSI bus!
Ampro LittleBoard with ZCPR :)

>  Man, THESE are the days, those sure weren't in some BIG ways <G>  CPU
>power and RAM are almost free nowadays, by comparison!

Today, my mouse driver is bigger than my whole OS was then.

>  Mark "I can still change card punch ribbons in my sleep", same as some
>others I'm sure!  .....mwillisKILLspamspam.....nwlink.com

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